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From: Larry Goldberg
Date: Wed, Dec 13 2006 8:50 PM
Subject: Today's and future AV subcomm meetings

We had a very productive session today, with follow-up materials, links,
info and draft language to be posted on the Wiki soon. Be sure to check it
frequently so you can get your input on the new stuff to the group.

We have canceled the next scheduled meeting (Dec. 27) and will instead meet
on both Jan. 3 and Jan. 10 (3pm ET for an hour). The same call-in number
will be used:

866-705-2554
The passcode is: 771578

Federal Relay Captioning web addresses will be posted once Thomas Brett
books the service.

Have a great holiday season and new year!

- Larry

Larry Goldberg, Director
Media Access Group at WGBH
125 Western Ave.
Boston, MA 02134

voice: 617-300-3722
fax: 617-300-1035
TTY: 617-300-2489

= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
access.wgbh.org

From: Brett, Thomas F
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: Today's and future AV subcomm meetings

Larry said: "Federal Relay Captioning web addresses will be posted once
Thomas Brett
books the service."

Poke..jab jab...poke poke

Please see below.

TEITAC-Audio/Video
1/10/07 3:00 - 4:00
866-705-2554 Access Code 771578
FEDRCC 642041

Meeting Room AV SubcomTEITAC-Audio/Video
1/10/07 3:00 - 4:00
866-705-2554 Access Code 771578
FEDRCC 616339
Meeting Room AV subcom

Tom Brett,
2026061206
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-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Larry
Goldberg
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:39 PM
To: TEITAC AV list
Subject: [teitac-video] Today's and future AV subcomm meetings

We had a very productive session today, with follow-up materials, links,
info and draft language to be posted on the Wiki soon. Be sure to check
it
frequently so you can get your input on the new stuff to the group.

We have canceled the next scheduled meeting (Dec. 27) and will instead
meet
on both Jan. 3 and Jan. 10 (3pm ET for an hour). The same call-in
number
will be used:

866-705-2554
The passcode is: 771578

Federal Relay Captioning web addresses will be posted once Thomas Brett
books the service.

Have a great holiday season and new year!

- Larry

Larry Goldberg, Director
Media Access Group at WGBH
125 Western Ave.
Boston, MA 02134

voice: 617-300-3722
fax: 617-300-1035
TTY: 617-300-2489

= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
access.wgbh.org

From: Karen Peltz Strauss
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: Today's and future AV subcomm meetings

As promised, here are the FCC definitions you requested. If someone could
post this to the Wiki, that would be great:

FCC definition for closed captioning (47 CFR Sec 79.1(a)(4)): "The visual
display of the audio portion of video programming pursuant to the technical
specifications set forth in part 15 of this chapter."

FCC defintion of video description (47 CFR Sec. 79.3(a)(3)): "The insertion
of audio narrated descriptions of a television program's key visual elements
into the natural pauses between the program's dialogue."

(Although the FCC's rules on video description were generally repealed by a
federal court, they remain in tact for emergency programming, and so for
that purpose, this definition is still law.)

As for the Section 255 requirement for working with people with
disabilities, that requirement is contained both in 47 CFR Sections 6.7 and
7.7, both of which state:

"(a) Manufacturers and service providers shall evaluate the accessibility,
usability, and compatibility of equipment and services covered by this part
and shall incorporate such evaluation throughout product design,
development, and fabrication, as early and consistently as possible.
Manufacturers and service providers shall identify barriers to accessibility
and usability as part of such a product design and development process.

(b) In developing such a process, manufacturers and service providers shall
consider the following factors, as the manufacturers deems appropriate:

***
(3) Working cooperatively with appropriate disability-related organizations;
and
(4) Making reasonable efforts to validate any unproven access solutions
through testing with individuals with disabilities or with appropriate
disability-related organizations that have established expertise with
individuals with disabilities."

The last section is one that we should pay particular attention to. If
"closed captioning" is generally provided in a certain way - e.g., on the
same screen as the video being shown - and an agency comes up with a novel
way of providing the captions - for example on a teleprompter-like screen
next to the video, the agency should at least validate this "unproven access
solution" with people with disabilities (i.e., the audience) who will be
using that access solution.

Karen (Strauss)
Communication Service for the Deaf




----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Goldberg" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "TEITAC AV list" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: [teitac-video] Today's and future AV subcomm meetings


> We had a very productive session today, with follow-up materials, links,
> info and draft language to be posted on the Wiki soon. Be sure to check it
> frequently so you can get your input on the new stuff to the group.
>
> We have canceled the next scheduled meeting (Dec. 27) and will instead
> meet
> on both Jan. 3 and Jan. 10 (3pm ET for an hour). The same call-in number
> will be used:
>
> 866-705-2554
> The passcode is: 771578
>
> Federal Relay Captioning web addresses will be posted once Thomas Brett
> books the service.
>
> Have a great holiday season and new year!
>
> - Larry
>
> Larry Goldberg, Director
> Media Access Group at WGBH
> 125 Western Ave.
> Boston, MA 02134
>
> voice: 617-300-3722
> fax: 617-300-1035
> TTY: 617-300-2489
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> access.wgbh.org
>
>
>

From: Larry Goldberg
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Today's and future AV subcomm meetings

All of this has been posted in a new Definitions/Verbiage section (which
awaits the W3C definitions of closed captions and video description (from
Andrew).

see:
http://teitac.org/wiki/Audio_Video#Definitions-Verbiage

- Larry


Karen Peltz Strauss wrote:

> As promised, here are the FCC definitions you requested. If someone could
> post this to the Wiki, that would be great:
>
> FCC definition for closed captioning (47 CFR Sec 79.1(a)(4)): "The visual
> display of the audio portion of video programming pursuant to the technical
> specifications set forth in part 15 of this chapter."
>
> FCC defintion of video description (47 CFR Sec. 79.3(a)(3)): "The insertion
> of audio narrated descriptions of a television program's key visual elements
> into the natural pauses between the program's dialogue."
>
> (Although the FCC's rules on video description were generally repealed by a
> federal court, they remain in tact for emergency programming, and so for
> that purpose, this definition is still law.)
>
> As for the Section 255 requirement for working with people with
> disabilities, that requirement is contained both in 47 CFR Sections 6.7 and
> 7.7, both of which state:
>
> "(a) Manufacturers and service providers shall evaluate the accessibility,
> usability, and compatibility of equipment and services covered by this part
> and shall incorporate such evaluation throughout product design,
> development, and fabrication, as early and consistently as possible.
> Manufacturers and service providers shall identify barriers to accessibility
> and usability as part of such a product design and development process.
>
> (b) In developing such a process, manufacturers and service providers shall
> consider the following factors, as the manufacturers deems appropriate:
>
> ***
> (3) Working cooperatively with appropriate disability-related organizations;
> and
> (4) Making reasonable efforts to validate any unproven access solutions
> through testing with individuals with disabilities or with appropriate
> disability-related organizations that have established expertise with
> individuals with disabilities."
>
> The last section is one that we should pay particular attention to. If
> "closed captioning" is generally provided in a certain way - e.g., on the
> same screen as the video being shown - and an agency comes up with a novel
> way of providing the captions - for example on a teleprompter-like screen
> next to the video, the agency should at least validate this "unproven access
> solution" with people with disabilities (i.e., the audience) who will be
> using that access solution.
>
> Karen (Strauss)
> Communication Service for the Deaf
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Goldberg" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "TEITAC AV list" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:39 PM
> Subject: [teitac-video] Today's and future AV subcomm meetings
>
>
>> We had a very productive session today, with follow-up materials, links,
>> info and draft language to be posted on the Wiki soon. Be sure to check it
>> frequently so you can get your input on the new stuff to the group.
>>
>> We have canceled the next scheduled meeting (Dec. 27) and will instead
>> meet
>> on both Jan. 3 and Jan. 10 (3pm ET for an hour). The same call-in number
>> will be used:
>>
>> 866-705-2554
>> The passcode is: 771578
>>
>> Federal Relay Captioning web addresses will be posted once Thomas Brett
>> books the service.
>>
>> Have a great holiday season and new year!
>>
>> - Larry
>>
>> Larry Goldberg, Director
>> Media Access Group at WGBH
>> 125 Western Ave.
>> Boston, MA 02134
>>
>> voice: 617-300-3722
>> fax: 617-300-1035
>> TTY: 617-300-2489
>>
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> access.wgbh.org
>>
>>
>>

From: Jim Tobias
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Today's and future AV subcomm meetings

Re: Definitions: Thanks for these terms and definitions. We already have a
Definitions page, under Subpart A, since that's where the regs put them last
time. I have added your terms to that page:
http://teitac.org/wiki/Subpart_A:Definitions

***********
Jim Tobias
Inclusive Technologies
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
+1.732.441.0831 v/tty
skype jimtobias
www.inclusive.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Goldberg [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:15 PM
> To: TEITAC AV list
> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Today's and future AV subcomm meetings
>
> All of this has been posted in a new Definitions/Verbiage
> section (which awaits the W3C definitions of closed captions
> and video description (from Andrew).
>
> see:
> http://teitac.org/wiki/Audio_Video#Definitions-Verbiage
>
> - Larry
>
>
> Karen Peltz Strauss wrote:
>
> > As promised, here are the FCC definitions you requested.
> If someone
> > could post this to the Wiki, that would be great:
> >
> > FCC definition for closed captioning (47 CFR Sec 79.1(a)(4)): "The
> > visual display of the audio portion of video programming
> pursuant to
> > the technical specifications set forth in part 15 of this chapter."
> >
> > FCC defintion of video description (47 CFR Sec. 79.3(a)(3)): "The
> > insertion of audio narrated descriptions of a television
> program's key
> > visual elements into the natural pauses between the
> program's dialogue."
> >
> > (Although the FCC's rules on video description were
> generally repealed
> > by a federal court, they remain in tact for emergency
> programming, and
> > so for that purpose, this definition is still law.)
> >
> > As for the Section 255 requirement for working with people with
> > disabilities, that requirement is contained both in 47 CFR Sections
> > 6.7 and 7.7, both of which state:
> >
> > "(a) Manufacturers and service providers shall evaluate the
> > accessibility, usability, and compatibility of equipment
> and services
> > covered by this part and shall incorporate such evaluation
> throughout
> > product design, development, and fabrication, as early and
> consistently as possible.
> > Manufacturers and service providers shall identify barriers to
> > accessibility and usability as part of such a product
> design and development process.
> >
> > (b) In developing such a process, manufacturers and service
> providers
> > shall consider the following factors, as the manufacturers
> deems appropriate:
> >
> > ***
> > (3) Working cooperatively with appropriate disability-related
> > organizations; and
> > (4) Making reasonable efforts to validate any unproven access
> > solutions through testing with individuals with
> disabilities or with
> > appropriate disability-related organizations that have established
> > expertise with individuals with disabilities."
> >
> > The last section is one that we should pay particular
> attention to.
> > If "closed captioning" is generally provided in a certain
> way - e.g.,
> > on the same screen as the video being shown - and an agency
> comes up
> > with a novel way of providing the captions - for example on a
> > teleprompter-like screen next to the video, the agency
> should at least
> > validate this "unproven access solution" with people with
> disabilities
> > (i.e., the audience) who will be using that access solution.
> >
> > Karen (Strauss)
> > Communication Service for the Deaf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Goldberg" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: "TEITAC AV list" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:39 PM
> > Subject: [teitac-video] Today's and future AV subcomm meetings
> >
> >
> >> We had a very productive session today, with follow-up materials,
> >> links, info and draft language to be posted on the Wiki
> soon. Be sure
> >> to check it frequently so you can get your input on the
> new stuff to the group.
> >>
> >> We have canceled the next scheduled meeting (Dec. 27) and will
> >> instead meet on both Jan. 3 and Jan. 10 (3pm ET for an hour). The
> >> same call-in number will be used:
> >>
> >> 866-705-2554
> >> The passcode is: 771578
> >>
> >> Federal Relay Captioning web addresses will be posted once Thomas
> >> Brett books the service.
> >>
> >> Have a great holiday season and new year!
> >>
> >> - Larry
> >>
> >> Larry Goldberg, Director
> >> Media Access Group at WGBH
> >> 125 Western Ave.
> >> Boston, MA 02134
> >>
> >> voice: 617-300-3722
> >> fax: 617-300-1035
> >> TTY: 617-300-2489
> >>
> >> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> access.wgbh.org
> >>
> >>
> >>

From: Larry Goldberg
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Today's and future AV subcomm meetings

Ok - these can be on our workspace, but we knew the A group needed them as
well. Since the AV group wouldn't regularly visit the S wiki, we figured we
can duplicate for now.

- Larry


Jim Tobias wrote:

> Re: Definitions: Thanks for these terms and definitions. We already have a
> Definitions page, under Subpart A, since that's where the regs put them last
> time. I have added your terms to that page:
> http://teitac.org/wiki/Subpart_A:Definitions
>
> ***********
> Jim Tobias
> Inclusive Technologies
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> +1.732.441.0831 v/tty
> skype jimtobias
> www.inclusive.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Larry Goldberg [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:15 PM
>> To: TEITAC AV list
>> Subject: Re: [teitac-video] Today's and future AV subcomm meetings
>>
>> All of this has been posted in a new Definitions/Verbiage
>> section (which awaits the W3C definitions of closed captions
>> and video description (from Andrew).
>>
>> see:
>> http://teitac.org/wiki/Audio_Video#Definitions-Verbiage
>>
>> - Larry
>>
>>
>> Karen Peltz Strauss wrote:
>>
>>> As promised, here are the FCC definitions you requested.
>> If someone
>>> could post this to the Wiki, that would be great:
>>>
>>> FCC definition for closed captioning (47 CFR Sec 79.1(a)(4)): "The
>>> visual display of the audio portion of video programming
>> pursuant to
>>> the technical specifications set forth in part 15 of this chapter."
>>>
>>> FCC defintion of video description (47 CFR Sec. 79.3(a)(3)): "The
>>> insertion of audio narrated descriptions of a television
>> program's key
>>> visual elements into the natural pauses between the
>> program's dialogue."
>>>
>>> (Although the FCC's rules on video description were
>> generally repealed
>>> by a federal court, they remain in tact for emergency
>> programming, and
>>> so for that purpose, this definition is still law.)
>>>
>>> As for the Section 255 requirement for working with people with
>>> disabilities, that requirement is contained both in 47 CFR Sections
>>> 6.7 and 7.7, both of which state:
>>>
>>> "(a) Manufacturers and service providers shall evaluate the
>>> accessibility, usability, and compatibility of equipment
>> and services
>>> covered by this part and shall incorporate such evaluation
>> throughout
>>> product design, development, and fabrication, as early and
>> consistently as possible.
>>> Manufacturers and service providers shall identify barriers to
>>> accessibility and usability as part of such a product
>> design and development process.
>>>
>>> (b) In developing such a process, manufacturers and service
>> providers
>>> shall consider the following factors, as the manufacturers
>> deems appropriate:
>>>
>>> ***
>>> (3) Working cooperatively with appropriate disability-related
>>> organizations; and
>>> (4) Making reasonable efforts to validate any unproven access
>>> solutions through testing with individuals with
>> disabilities or with
>>> appropriate disability-related organizations that have established
>>> expertise with individuals with disabilities."
>>>
>>> The last section is one that we should pay particular
>> attention to.
>>> If "closed captioning" is generally provided in a certain
>> way - e.g.,
>>> on the same screen as the video being shown - and an agency
>> comes up
>>> with a novel way of providing the captions - for example on a
>>> teleprompter-like screen next to the video, the agency
>> should at least
>>> validate this "unproven access solution" with people with
>> disabilities
>>> (i.e., the audience) who will be using that access solution.
>>>
>>> Karen (Strauss)
>>> Communication Service for the Deaf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry Goldberg" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> To: "TEITAC AV list" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:39 PM
>>> Subject: [teitac-video] Today's and future AV subcomm meetings
>>>
>>>
>>>> We had a very productive session today, with follow-up materials,
>>>> links, info and draft language to be posted on the Wiki
>> soon. Be sure
>>>> to check it frequently so you can get your input on the
>> new stuff to the group.
>>>>
>>>> We have canceled the next scheduled meeting (Dec. 27) and will
>>>> instead meet on both Jan. 3 and Jan. 10 (3pm ET for an hour). The
>>>> same call-in number will be used:
>>>>
>>>> 866-705-2554
>>>> The passcode is: 771578
>>>>
>>>> Federal Relay Captioning web addresses will be posted once Thomas
>>>> Brett books the service.
>>>>
>>>> Have a great holiday season and new year!
>>>>
>>>> - Larry
>>>>
>>>> Larry Goldberg, Director
>>>> Media Access Group at WGBH
>>>> 125 Western Ave.
>>>> Boston, MA 02134
>>>>
>>>> voice: 617-300-3722
>>>> fax: 617-300-1035
>>>> TTY: 617-300-2489
>>>>
>>>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>>> access.wgbh.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>