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From: Tom Brett
Date: Wed, May 02 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Subpart ADefinitions-VideoDescription-Action Needed

Why aren't u on the teleconference...they have been calling ur name...

Tom Brett


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To: TEITAC Audio/Video Subcommittee; TEITAC Subpart A Subcommittee
Subject: Re: [teitac-subparta] [teitac-video] Subpart A
Definitions-VideoDescription-Action Needed

I like this one a lot.



Allen Hoffman -- 202-447-0303

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Subject: Re: [teitac-video] [teitac-subparta] Subpart A Definitions-Video
Description-Action Needed

I tend to agree with Geoff that shorter is better, and this is getting
awfully long. It has too many examples mixed into the text, and it has an
explanation of why you might want it which focuses on disability (which I
have been told is not the right way to express things).

How is this, split into a crisp definition, and then examples and notes?:

VIDEO DESCRIPTION: (often referred to as audio description), is the
provision of audible descriptions of key aspects of the visual information,
to allow people who are unable fully to see the video to understand the
content.

Notes: Video descriptions may include
descriptions of movements or actions which are not discernible or
identifiable from the audio track alone, facial expressions if important to
an understanding of the content, background visuals, sets, or text that
appears on screen such as a mailing address or web reference, and so on.
Video descriptions should normally not obscure the original audio content,
and in some cases content timing may be lengthened for the description to be
inserted. Audible descriptions are usually supplied interspersed with the
original audio, or sometimes an alternative audio track is made in order to
contain both the original and descriptive audio material.



At 23:07 -0400 1/05/07, David Poehlman wrote:
>I like this even better than mine:
>
>Video Description: Video description, also often referred to as audio
>description or audio describing, is the provision via alternate audio
>track, or interspersing of additional narration in to the existing
>audio, of verbal descriptions of key pieces of information from an
>audio/video "multimedia" item, such as a broadcast, DVD, or web page,
>to allow people with visual disabilities to understand the content as a
>whole. Video descriptions may include descriptions of movements or
>actions which are not discernible or identifiable from the audio track
>alone, facial expressions if important to an understanding of the
>content, background visuals, sets, or text that appears on screen such
>as a mailing address or web reference. Video descriptions must not
>override the original audio content, and in some cases content timing
>may be lengthened for the audio-description to be inserted.
>
>On May 1, 2007, at 1:55 PM, Hoffman, Allen wrote:
>
>I suggest we insert definition for audio-description that refers to
>video description to alleviate any misunderstanding. Also, in a recent
>session at CSUN Joel Schneider from national captioning institute noted
>that there is a symbol for a/d sometimes used on media. I don't think
>it matters much on the overall what it is called as long as we all
>agree on what it is--personally "video description"
>makes more sense to me as the description is of the important
>information in the video content not discernible from the audio content
>alone.
>
>I do not agree with Jeff's language as it focuses on items that are not
>specifically related to the description of the critical information
>from a video content. I think the previous language was better.> Jeff
>wrote:
> > AUDIO DESCRIPTION: Audio descriptions make visual media (such as
>> television programs or training videos) accessible to people who are
>> blind or visually impaired. They provide descriptive narration of
>> key visual elements, such as sets, costumes and other important
>> on-screen information that may not be conveyed by the main audio track
alone.
>>
>
>I might suggest an alternative as:
>
>Video Description: Video description, also often referred to as audio
>description or audio describing, is the provision via alternate audio
>track, or interspersing of additional narration in to the existing
>audio, of verbal descriptions of key pieces of information from an
>audio/video "multimedia" item, such as a broadcast, DVD, or web page,
>to allow people with visual disabilities to understand the content as a
>whole. Video descriptions may include descriptions of movements or
>actions which are not discernible or identifiable from the audio track
>alone, facial expressions if important to an understanding of the
>content, background visuals, sets, or text that appears on screen such
>as a mailing address or web reference. Video descriptions must not
>override the original audio content, and in some cases content timing
>may be lengthened for the audio-description to be inserted.
>
>
>
>
>
>Allen Hoffman -- 202-447-0303
>DHS Office on Accessible systems & Technology -----Original
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>] On Behalf Of Larry Goldberg
>Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:59 AM
>To: TEITAC AV list; Geoffrey Freed; 'TEITAC Subpart A Subcommittee'
>Subject: Re: [teitac-video] [teitac-subparta] Subpart A Definitions-
>Video Description-Action Needed
>
>The Telecommunications Act and the Federal Communications Commission
>both use the term "video description" which is the most commonly used
>term to refer to description of video materials; "audio description"
>has been more commonly associated with live theatrical description. I
>would suggest we continue to use the term used since 1990 and adopted
>by the Federal
>government: "video description."
>
>- Larry
>
>
>Gerald Freda wrote:
>
>> To be consistent and not confuse the definition label I support and
>> recommend the adoption of "audio description" as indicated within
>> 1194.24 of the technical standard as the definition label.
>>
>> I also agree with Goeff that since the 1194.24 technical standard is
>> not only referencing video and including multimedia products that the
>> selected language should not limiting nor restrictive in nature.
>>
>> I would recommend a few changes to the definition submitted by Goeff
>> as indicated below (replace VIDEO with AUDIO as the recommended
>> language, and replace cannot with may not).
>>
>> AUDIO DESCRIPTION: Audio descriptions make visual media (such as
>> television programs or training videos) accessible to people who are
>> blind or visually impaired. They provide descriptive narration of
>> key visual elements, such as sets, costumes and other important
>> on-screen information that may not be conveyed by the main audio track
alone.
>>
>> thanks
>>