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From: David Engebretson Jr.
Date: Tue, Mar 22 2022 2:23PM
Subject: Progress? was: DOJ issues web accessibility guidance
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I wonder: Has anyone ever seen the DOJ and the ADA collaborate to provide
educational guidance for web accessibility in the past?

I'm not a historian and I've only been working in the field of web
accessibility for 5 years. I've struggled with web accessibility for 25
years but I think that my personal experience isn't important. What's
important to me is that some kind of progress is being made.

To me this seems like big progress. Am I mistaken?

I appreciate all feedback,
David

From: Jeff Kline
Date: Tue, Mar 22 2022 6:13PM
Subject: Re: Progress? was: DOJ issues web accessibility guidance
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Well, progress is always being made, but the pace remains slow, especially =
considering how long ICT accessibility has been around (US Section 508 was =
passed into rule with an effective date in the year 2000.

It=92s important to keep in mind that the ADA is a regulation and not a fed=
eral agency, but the DoJ and DoL are probably the entities mostly associate=
d with enforcement.

With regard to education, agencies such as the US General Services Administ=
ration (GSA) and the US Access Board(creators of US Section 508) provide we=
binars and online training sessions from time to time on various digital ac=
cessibility (perhaps more so for federal employees as I have seen in the pa=
st), but most of the training that is available comes from various NGOs and=
the accessibility focused private sector entities=85some free and some for=
fee. Accessibility conferences such as CSUN, M-enabling, and AccessU also =
provide good opportunities for learning and training on a wide variety of d=
igital accessibility topics.

Certainly, codifying digital accessibility standards (and policy requiremen=
ts) into the ADA and beyond Section 508 (which is a federal procurement reg=
ulation where compliance is required but not all that well enforced) would =
make a HUGE difference and is what we in the US are hoping will happen some=
day. If and when that happens, it should drive lots more training across th=
e board.


Regards,


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From: David Engebretson Jr.
Date: Tue, Mar 22 2022 6:39PM
Subject: Re: Progress? was: DOJ issues web accessibility guidance
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So you are saying, "Yes" change is slow. I agree.

Is this announcement progress in your opinion?

Thanks,
David


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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Progress? was: DOJ issues web accessibility guidance

Well, progress is always being made, but the pace remains slow, especially
considering how long ICT accessibility has been around (US Section 508 was
passed into rule with an effective date in the year 2000.

It's important to keep in mind that the ADA is a regulation and not a
federal agency, but the DoJ and DoL are probably the entities mostly
associated with enforcement.

With regard to education, agencies such as the US General Services
Administration (GSA) and the US Access Board(creators of US Section 508)
provide webinars and online training sessions from time to time on various
digital accessibility (perhaps more so for federal employees as I have seen
in the past), but most of the training that is available comes from various
NGOs and the accessibility focused private sector entities.some free and
some for fee. Accessibility conferences such as CSUN, M-enabling, and
AccessU also provide good opportunities for learning and training on a wide
variety of digital accessibility topics.

Certainly, codifying digital accessibility standards (and policy
requirements) into the ADA and beyond Section 508 (which is a federal
procurement regulation where compliance is required but not all that well
enforced) would make a HUGE difference and is what we in the US are hoping
will happen someday. If and when that happens, it should drive lots more
training across the board.


Regards,


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Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 3:23 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] Progress? was: DOJ issues web accessibility guidance I
wonder: Has anyone ever seen the DOJ and the ADA collaborate to provide
educational guidance for web accessibility in the past?

I'm not a historian and I've only been working in the field of web
accessibility for 5 years. I've struggled with web accessibility for 25
years but I think that my personal experience isn't important. What's
important to me is that some kind of progress is being made.

To me this seems like big progress. Am I mistaken?

I appreciate all feedback,
David


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From: Jeff Kline
Date: Wed, Mar 23 2022 8:02AM
Subject: Re: Progress? was: DOJ issues web accessibility guidance
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I believe that the DoJ thinks it is because they decided to create and publ=
ish this guidance. How much so remains to be seen, but clearly, this action=
falls way short of what is really needed=85.namely digital accessibility r=
egulations included in the ADA.

Regards,


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From: Melissa Helquist
Date: Thu, Mar 24 2022 11:24AM
Subject: Re: Progress? was: DOJ issues web accessibility guidance
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Another perspective on the DOJ's guidance: There is a lot of recent
national/ legislative support for digital equity, including $2.75 billion
in funding for digital equity and digital inclusion. I see this statement
as part of that effort. I think the guidance will be particularly useful
for local government and non-profit agencies working on digital equity who
don't have a solid background in web accessibility.

A couple of information items on the digital equity act:

- Digital Equity Act <https://www.digitalequityact.org/>
- National Law Review: Digital Equity Act
<https://www.natlawreview.com/article/digital-equity-act>)


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> I believe that the DoJ thinks it is because they decided to create and
> publish this guidance. How much so remains to be seen, but clearly, this
> action falls way short of what is really needed….namely digital
> accessibility regulations included in the ADA.
>
> Regards,
>
>
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> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of
> David Engebretson Jr. < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 7:39 PM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Progress? was: DOJ issues web accessibility guidance
> So you are saying, "Yes" change is slow. I agree.
>
> Is this announcement progress in your opinion?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> Jeff
> Kline
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 5:14 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Progress? was: DOJ issues web accessibility guidance
>
> Well, progress is always being made, but the pace remains slow, especially
> considering how long ICT accessibility has been around (US Section 508 was
> passed into rule with an effective date in the year 2000.
>
> It's important to keep in mind that the ADA is a regulation and not a
> federal agency, but the DoJ and DoL are probably the entities mostly
> associated with enforcement.
>
> With regard to education, agencies such as the US General Services
> Administration (GSA) and the US Access Board(creators of US Section 508)
> provide webinars and online training sessions from time to time on various
> digital accessibility (perhaps more so for federal employees as I have seen
> in the past), but most of the training that is available comes from various
> NGOs and the accessibility focused private sector entities.some free and
> some for fee. Accessibility conferences such as CSUN, M-enabling, and
> AccessU also provide good opportunities for learning and training on a wide
> variety of digital accessibility topics.
>
> Certainly, codifying digital accessibility standards (and policy
> requirements) into the ADA and beyond Section 508 (which is a federal
> procurement regulation where compliance is required but not all that well
> enforced) would make a HUGE difference and is what we in the US are hoping
> will happen someday. If and when that happens, it should drive lots more
> training across the board.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
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> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > on behalf of
> David
> Engebretson Jr. < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 3:23 PM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] Progress? was: DOJ issues web accessibility guidance I
> wonder: Has anyone ever seen the DOJ and the ADA collaborate to provide
> educational guidance for web accessibility in the past?
>
> I'm not a historian and I've only been working in the field of web
> accessibility for 5 years. I've struggled with web accessibility for 25
> years but I think that my personal experience isn't important. What's
> important to me is that some kind of progress is being made.
>
> To me this seems like big progress. Am I mistaken?
>
> I appreciate all feedback,
> David
>
>
> > > at
> http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > > > > > > >


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