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From: Jim Homme
Date: Wed, May 25 2022 2:28PM
Subject: What's The State Of Support For Screen Readers And CSS-generated Content?
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Hi,
I just ran across some CSS-generated content that I could read in Chrome with JAWS and NVDA. That's what prompted the question of the subject of this message. How are things with this, and what is the best way to keep up with such things so I can avoid giving bad advice?

Thanks.

Jim H

=========Jim Homme
Senior Digital Accessibility Consultant
Bender Consulting Services
412-787-8567
https://www.benderconsult.com/
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From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Wed, May 25 2022 5:51PM
Subject: Re: What's The State Of Support For Screen Readers And CSS-generated Content?
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Hi,
I'm not sure about the best way to keep up with this, but CSS content has been supported now for several years that I am aware of.

This is part of the W3C AccName spec, and it is directly added to the accessibility tree within Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Safari.

This is why screen readers pick it up. Visual ARIA uses this technique to display all discovered ARIA roles and attributes on the page.

All the best,
Bryan


Bryan Garaventa
Principal Accessibility Architect
Level Access, Inc.
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415.624.2709 (o)
www.LevelAccess.com

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Hi,
I just ran across some CSS-generated content that I could read in Chrome with JAWS and NVDA. That's what prompted the question of the subject of this message. How are things with this, and what is the best way to keep up with such things so I can avoid giving bad advice?

Thanks.

Jim H

=========Jim Homme
Senior Digital Accessibility Consultant
Bender Consulting Services
412-787-8567
https://www.benderconsult.com/
Support the dreams of independence through employment for students with disabilities with your Amazon purchases.
https://smile.amazon.com/ch/83-0988251

From: Steve Green
Date: Thu, May 26 2022 12:27AM
Subject: Re: What's The State Of Support For Screen Readers And CSS-generated Content?
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Internet Explorer 11 doesn't support CSS content, but not many people will worry about that now.

Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd


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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] What's The State Of Support For Screen Readers And CSS-generated Content?

Hi,
I'm not sure about the best way to keep up with this, but CSS content has been supported now for several years that I am aware of.

This is part of the W3C AccName spec, and it is directly added to the accessibility tree within Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Safari.

This is why screen readers pick it up. Visual ARIA uses this technique to display all discovered ARIA roles and attributes on the page.

All the best,
Bryan


Bryan Garaventa
Principal Accessibility Architect
Level Access, Inc.
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
415.624.2709 (o)
www.LevelAccess.com

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Subject: [WebAIM] What's The State Of Support For Screen Readers And CSS-generated Content?

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Hi,
I just ran across some CSS-generated content that I could read in Chrome with JAWS and NVDA. That's what prompted the question of the subject of this message. How are things with this, and what is the best way to keep up with such things so I can avoid giving bad advice?

Thanks.

Jim H

=========Jim Homme
Senior Digital Accessibility Consultant
Bender Consulting Services
412-787-8567
https://www.benderconsult.com/
Support the dreams of independence through employment for students with disabilities with your Amazon purchases.
https://smile.amazon.com/ch/83-0988251

From: Léonie Watson
Date: Thu, May 26 2022 1:53AM
Subject: Re: What's The State Of Support For Screen Readers And CSS-generated Content?
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When I looked into this back in 2015, the only browser not to support
exposing content generated using the before/after selectors as part of
the accessible name for links, was IE. Otherwise all browsers on all
platforms with the common screen readers on each platform did.
https://tink.uk/accessibility-support-for-css-generated-content/

Note: the test case linked from that post has disappeared. I'll restore
it as soon as I have a few minutes.

Léonie.


On 26/05/2022 00:51, Bryan Garaventa via WebAIM-Forum wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm not sure about the best way to keep up with this, but CSS content has been supported now for several years that I am aware of.
>
> This is part of the W3C AccName spec, and it is directly added to the accessibility tree within Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Safari.
>
> This is why screen readers pick it up. Visual ARIA uses this technique to display all discovered ARIA roles and attributes on the page.
>
> All the best,
> Bryan
>
>
> Bryan Garaventa
> Principal Accessibility Architect
> Level Access, Inc.
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 415.624.2709 (o)
> www.LevelAccess.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Jim Homme
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 1:29 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] What's The State Of Support For Screen Readers And CSS-generated Content?
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
>
>
> Hi,
> I just ran across some CSS-generated content that I could read in Chrome with JAWS and NVDA. That's what prompted the question of the subject of this message. How are things with this, and what is the best way to keep up with such things so I can avoid giving bad advice?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim H
>
> =========> Jim Homme
> Senior Digital Accessibility Consultant
> Bender Consulting Services
> 412-787-8567
> https://www.benderconsult.com/
> Support the dreams of independence through employment for students with disabilities with your Amazon purchases.
> https://smile.amazon.com/ch/83-0988251
>
> > > > > > > --
Director @TetraLogical
https://tetralogical.com

From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Thu, May 26 2022 2:40AM
Subject: Re: What's The State Of Support For Screen Readers And CSS-generated Content?
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Thanks, my sense of time is a bit screwy. 😊


Bryan Garaventa
Principal Accessibility Architect
Level Access, Inc.
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415.624.2709 (o)
www.LevelAccess.com

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From: Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 12:53 AM
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Cc: Bryan Garaventa < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] What's The State Of Support For Screen Readers And CSS-generated Content?

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When I looked into this back in 2015, the only browser not to support exposing content generated using the before/after selectors as part of the accessible name for links, was IE. Otherwise all browsers on all platforms with the common screen readers on each platform did.
https://tink.uk/accessibility-support-for-css-generated-content/

Note: the test case linked from that post has disappeared. I'll restore it as soon as I have a few minutes.

Léonie.


On 26/05/2022 00:51, Bryan Garaventa via WebAIM-Forum wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm not sure about the best way to keep up with this, but CSS content has been supported now for several years that I am aware of.
>
> This is part of the W3C AccName spec, and it is directly added to the accessibility tree within Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Safari.
>
> This is why screen readers pick it up. Visual ARIA uses this technique to display all discovered ARIA roles and attributes on the page.
>
> All the best,
> Bryan
>
>
> Bryan Garaventa
> Principal Accessibility Architect
> Level Access, Inc.
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 415.624.2709 (o)
> www.LevelAccess.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of
> Jim Homme
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 1:29 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] What's The State Of Support For Screen Readers And CSS-generated Content?
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
>
>
> Hi,
> I just ran across some CSS-generated content that I could read in Chrome with JAWS and NVDA. That's what prompted the question of the subject of this message. How are things with this, and what is the best way to keep up with such things so I can avoid giving bad advice?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim H
>
> =========> Jim Homme
> Senior Digital Accessibility Consultant Bender Consulting Services
> 412-787-8567
> https://www.benderconsult.com/
> Support the dreams of independence through employment for students with disabilities with your Amazon purchases.
> https://smile.amazon.com/ch/83-0988251
>
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