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From: Katharine Whitelaw
Date: Fri, Jul 08 2022 3:22PM
Subject: accessibility of Office 2019 better than Office 365?
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We have an employee with visual disabilities who says she can't use Office =
365 and she has to use Office 2019. Our IT department won't allow Office 20=
19 on our network.
She's not technically oriented. I can't get details on what doesn't work in=
Office 365 and does work in Office 2019.
Has anyone ever heard of this?
Thanks,
Katy
Katy Whitelaw
Information Technology Accessibility Officer
Ethics and Compliance Office | Office of the President
Health Services 220
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From: Hayman, Douglass
Date: Fri, Jul 08 2022 3:27PM
Subject: Re: - accessibility of Office 2019 better than Office 365?
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Katharine,
Has she tried to reach out to Microsoft's Disability Support group
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/disability-answer-desk?activetab=contact-pivot%3aprimaryr9
Doug Hayman
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We have an employee with visual disabilities who says she can't use Office 365 and she has to use Office 2019. Our IT department won't allow Office 2019 on our network.
She's not technically oriented. I can't get details on what doesn't work in Office 365 and does work in Office 2019.
Has anyone ever heard of this?
Thanks,
Katy
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Date: Fri, Jul 08 2022 5:04PM
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I am wondering what kind of problems or difficulties is she experiencing. I have used both with JAWS and NVDA. They both work well.
I am wondering if the Ribbon Bar is being so confusing to her. Although both 2019 and 365 have the Ribbon Bar. It's been around for years.
I used to use the JAWS virtual menus because I hated the Ribbon bar. However, I noticed that Microsoft was faster than Freedom Scientific to change menu items. So I was missing out on certain menu items. Once I switched to the Ribbon bar and forced myself to use it, I have had no problem finding everything I want. I have to mention that some Ribbon bar hot keys do change. It is only a matter of going through each tab and discover what the new hot keys are to create a bulletted list or format text.
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We have an employee with visual disabilities who says she can't use Office 365 and she has to use Office 2019. Our IT department won't allow Office 2019 on our network.
She's not technically oriented. I can't get details on what doesn't work in Office 365 and does work in Office 2019.
Has anyone ever heard of this?
Thanks,
Katy
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From: Karen McCall
Date: Sat, Jul 09 2022 8:11AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of Office 2019 better than Office 365?
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I would also need to know what the specific issues are. I use Office 365 with JAWS and create academic papers (footnotes, endnotes, page headers, footers, links, tables, images with alt text...the works). I'm also a Microsoft MVP for Office Apps and Services and a Microsoft Accessibility MVP.
I'm willing to reach out to find out specifically what isn't working. I will, however, need specifics, not a generalization of "it isn't working".
I've also written lots of training material on using Office with the keyboard and adaptive technology dating back to Office 2003.
Cheers, Karen
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I am wondering what kind of problems or difficulties is she experiencing. I have used both with JAWS and NVDA. They both work well.
I am wondering if the Ribbon Bar is being so confusing to her. Although both 2019 and 365 have the Ribbon Bar. It's been around for years.
I used to use the JAWS virtual menus because I hated the Ribbon bar. However, I noticed that Microsoft was faster than Freedom Scientific to change menu items. So I was missing out on certain menu items. Once I switched to the Ribbon bar and forced myself to use it, I have had no problem finding everything I want. I have to mention that some Ribbon bar hot keys do change. It is only a matter of going through each tab and discover what the new hot keys are to create a bulletted list or format text.
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We have an employee with visual disabilities who says she can't use Office 365 and she has to use Office 2019. Our IT department won't allow Office 2019 on our network. She's not technically oriented.
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She's not technically oriented. I can't get details on what doesn't work in Office 365 and does work in Office 2019.
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From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: Mon, Jul 11 2022 7:32AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of Office 2019 better than Office 365?
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I have never heard of this. Could her Office 365 be the web app version? If so, that might explain her problems.
Dave
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We have an employee with visual disabilities who says she can't use Office 365 and she has to use Office 2019. Our IT department won't allow Office 2019 on our network.
She's not technically oriented. I can't get details on what doesn't work in Office 365 and does work in Office 2019.
Has anyone ever heard of this?
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From: Kevin Prince
Date: Mon, Jul 11 2022 5:51PM
Subject: Re: accessibility of Office 2019 better than Office 365?
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Would it be that she equates Office 365 with the (evil) web-based versions and doesn't realise she can have desktop apps still?
Teams constantly pushes the online version which is missing lots of functionality even as a sighted user.
Kevin
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From: Sean Murphy
Date: Fri, Jul 15 2022 2:39AM
Subject: Re: accessibility of Office 2019 better than Office 365?
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The desktop version as people already have mention is fully accessible for office 365. The web version does have some challenges and depending on the screen reader being used will not give the same capabilities. For example if you're using excel the web version will not read out the headers of your spreadsheet while the desktop can't if you're using jaws for windows. This is not a accurate fact from the vision impaired employee saying office 365 is not accessible. The web version as people have indicated is not the preferred user interface. As being a screen reader user I find sometimes quite challenging and I avoid as much as I ca
Please excuse any errors as I am dictating via Siri
My experience is the part
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> We have an employee with visual disabilities who says she can't use Office 365 and she has to use Office 2019. Our IT department won't allow Office 2019 on our network.
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> Has anyone ever heard of this?
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> Thanks,
> Katy
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