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From: Laura Pierce
Date: Thu, Jan 29 2004 12:19PM
Subject: Browser-based business tools
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Hi All,



Apologies for the long email in advance but please help!?!



We have an in-house resource kit based on principles and checklists from
sources such as Jim Thatcher's teachings, WAI and some e-learning
accessibility guidelines. However, I'm currently assessing a complex,
highly interactive task-based business tool. Some of our in-house tools
are inherently complex (they often enable rather 'involved' tasks) but
we would like to achieve the best level of accessibility for moral
reasons if nothing else.



The British DDA legislation seems a little vague, and the WAI Guidelines
seem rather geared up for accessible ways of presenting web content,
which is great, but I feel like we need something more substantial.



We've asked the Disability Rights Commission for advice on whether there
are more specific guidelines they would recommend but am informed that
they won't help me because we employ over 100 people. Nor do they seem
able to refer me to resources who/which might be able to help.



Does anyone know of any guidelines that might help us identify different
accessibility issues and solutions for browser-based business
applications?

The US seems to have advanced much further on

From: julian.rickards@ndm.gov.on.ca
Date: Thu, Jan 29 2004 1:54PM
Subject: RE: Browser-based business tools
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If the business tools are browser-based, then, whatever the tools may be,
they may be outputting HTML. However, IE can also use Active-X, and it and
other browsers can also run Java in the browser - those types of
applications are likely not accessible (correct me someone if I am wrong).
If the browser-based business tools (we use online tools for attendance,
expense recording and other types of HR and admin type functions) are
outputting HTML, then it may be possible to make them accessible.


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Julian Rickards
Digital Publications Distribution Coordinator
Publications Services Section
Ontario Ministry of Northern Development and Mines
Phone: (705) 670-5608
Fax: (705) 670-5690



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From: Laura Pierce [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:24 AM
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Subject: Browser-based business tools



Hi All,



Apologies for the long email in advance but please help!?!



We have an in-house resource kit based on principles and checklists from
sources such as Jim Thatcher's teachings, WAI and some e-learning
accessibility guidelines. However, I'm currently assessing a complex, highly
interactive task-based business tool. Some of our in-house tools are
inherently complex (they often enable rather 'involved' tasks) but we would
like to achieve the best level of accessibility for moral reasons if nothing
else.



The British DDA legislation seems a little vague, and the WAI Guidelines
seem rather geared up for accessible ways of presenting web content, which
is great, but I feel like we need something more substantial.



We've asked the Disability Rights Commission for advice on whether there are
more specific guidelines they would recommend but am informed that they
won't help me because we employ over 100 people. Nor do they seem able to
refer me to resources who/which might be able to help.



Does anyone know of any guidelines that might help us identify different
accessibility issues and solutions for browser-based business applications?

The US seems to have advanced much further on accessibility than the UK - is
there anything in 508 that addresses browser-based business tools?



Many thanks for your time and any feedback is much appreciated,

LP


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From: Pratik Patel
Date: Thu, Jan 29 2004 2:35PM
Subject: RE: Browser-based business tools
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Hello,

You also have to consider Who develops these business tools. If you are
dealing with some of the large companies such as Peoplesoft or Oracle,
their tools are compliant with Section 508 standards, at least that is
what we are told. If, on the other hand, you are specifically dealing
with applications that have been developed internally, the likelihood of
having accessibility difficulties is high.

Pratik


Pratik Patel
Managing Director
CUNY Assistive Technology Services
the City University of New York
(718) 997-3775
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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:42 PM
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Subject: RE: Browser-based business tools


If the business tools are browser-based, then, whatever the tools may
be,
they may be outputting HTML. However, IE can also use Active-X, and it
and
other browsers can also run Java in the browser - those types of
applications are likely not accessible (correct me someone if I am
wrong).
If the browser-based business tools (we use online tools for attendance,
expense recording and other types of HR and admin type functions) are
outputting HTML, then it may be possible to make them accessible.


---------------------------------------------------------
Julian Rickards
Digital Publications Distribution Coordinator
Publications Services Section
Ontario Ministry of Northern Development and Mines
Phone: (705) 670-5608
Fax: (705) 670-5690



-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Pierce [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:24 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Browser-based business tools



Hi All,



Apologies for the long email in advance but please help!?!



We have an in-house resource kit based on principles and checklists from
sources such as Jim Thatcher's teachings, WAI and some e-learning
accessibility guidelines. However, I'm currently assessing a complex,
highly
interactive task-based business tool. Some of our in-house tools are
inherently complex (they often enable rather 'involved' tasks) but we
would
like to achieve the best level of accessibility for moral reasons if
nothing
else.



The British DDA legislation seems a little vague, and the WAI Guidelines
seem rather geared up for accessible ways of presenting web content,
which
is great, but I feel like we need something more substantial.



We've asked the Disability Rights Commission for advice on whether there
are
more specific guidelines they would recommend but am informed that they
won't help me because we employ over 100 people. Nor do they seem able
to
refer me to resources who/which might be able to help.



Does anyone know of any guidelines that might help us identify different
accessibility issues and solutions for browser-based business
applications?

The US seems to have advanced much further on accessibility than the UK
- is
there anything in 508 that addresses browser-based business tools?



Many thanks for your time and any feedback is much appreciated,

LP


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From: Duncan Shearer
Date: Fri, Jan 30 2004 1:49AM
Subject: RE: Browser-based business tools
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Hi Laura,

You culd speek to the peopel at the employers forum on disability. They
publish lods of dokumints and I am sure they wuld be happy to advice you.

Duncan


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>
>Hi All,
>
>
>
>Apologies for the long email in advance but please help!?!
>
>
>
>We have an in-house resource kit based on principles and checklists from
>sources such as Jim Thatcher's teachings, WAI and some e-learning
>accessibility guidelines. However, I'm currently assessing a complex,
>highly interactive task-based business tool. Some of our in-house tools
>are inherently complex (they often enable rather 'involved' tasks) but
>we would like to achieve the best level of accessibility for moral
>reasons if nothing else.
>
>
>
>The British DDA legislation seems a little vague, and the WAI Guidelines
>seem rather geared up for accessible ways of presenting web content,
>which is great, but I feel like we need something more substantial.
>
>
>
>We've asked the Disability Rights Commission for advice on whether there
>are more specific guidelines they would recommend but am informed that
>they won't help me because we employ over 100 people. Nor do they seem
>able to refer me to resources who/which might be able to help.
>
>
>
>Does anyone know of any guidelines that might help us identify different
>accessibility issues and solutions for browser-based business
>applications?
>
>The US seems to have advanced much further on accessibility than the UK
>- is there anything in 508 that addresses browser-based business tools?
>
>
>
>Many thanks for your time and any feedback is much appreciated,
>
>LP
>

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