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From: reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding;
Date: Thu, Mar 17 2005 10:37AM
Subject: Edit/Delete admin area
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Just working on a simple admin area where users can edit or delete questions:



Question 1EditDelete

Question 2EditDelete



How can I make this more accessible like the way label tags are used
inside forms?

Ben

From: Kevin.CTR.Spruill@faa.gov
Date: Thu, Mar 17 2005 11:19AM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>Just working on a simple admin area where users can edit or delete
questions:
>
><code>
>
> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
<p>Question 1</p><a href=#">Edit</a><a
href="#">Delete</a>
>
> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
<p>Question 2</p><a href=#">Edit</a><a
href="#">Delete</a>
>
></code>
>
>How can I make this more accessible like the way label tags are used
>inside forms?
>
>Ben

Ben,

Not sure if I'm tracking your question 100% so forgive
me if I'm going in the wrong direction. I'd add title tags to the links
and paragraphs to mimic the implicit/explicit association of the label
tag for forms elements. Also I'd most likely place my edit/delete links
within the paragraph of containing the question. Something along the lines
of:

<p name="Question 1" title="Question
1, you may edit or delete this question with the links below">Question
1<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="#"
title="edit Question 1">Edit</a> <a href="#"
title="delete Question 1">Delete</a>
</p>
<p name="Question 2" title="Question
2, you may edit or delete this question with the links below">Question
2<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="#"
title="edit Question 2">Edit</a> <a href="#"
title="delete Question 2">Delete</a>
</p>

or better still use ordered or unordered lists to
organize and explicitly associate the links and questions:

<ol>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <li title="Question
1, you may edit or delete this question with the edit/delete links">Question
1
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="#"
title="edit Question 1">Edit</a> <a href="#"
title="delete Question 1">Delete</a>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </li>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <li title="Question
2, you may edit or delete this question with the edit/delete links">Question
2
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="#"
title="edit Question 2">Edit</a> <a href="#"
title="delete Question 2">Delete</a>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </li>
</ol>


Kevin
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From: reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references;
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 3:53AM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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Kevin,

thanks for the input, I think the list route is probably best, would
it be better to simplify the repetetive title?


First question text
Edit&nbsp;<a
href="#" title="delete Question 1">Delete

Another question text
Edit&nbsp;<a
href="#" title="delete Question 2">Delete



ben

From: reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references;
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 4:26AM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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For presentation reasons and to contain the question within its own
title ive added a to the question.



1st question<a href="#"
title="Edit Question 1">Edit<a href="#" title="Delete Question
1">Delete

1st question<a href="#"
title="Edit Question 1">Edit<a href="#" title="Delete Question
1">Delete

From: Tim Beadle
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 6:02AM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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"lists38" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote on 18/03/2005 12:12:36:
> Just as a general netiquette thing, can everybody please refrain from
> forwarding their spam filter subject changes? It is not only rather
> annoying but makes it impossible to search by subject.

Sorry!

/me slaps wrist.

Tim

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From: tim.beadle
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 7:48AM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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"lists38" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote on 18/03/2005 12:12:36:
> Just as a general netiquette thing, can everybody please refrain from
> forwarding their spam filter subject changes? It is not only rather
> annoying but makes it impossible to search by subject.

Sorry!

/me slaps wrist.

Tim

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Registered charity No. 293851
76 Portland Place, London, W1B 1NT, England

IOP Publishing Limited
Registered in England under Registration No 467514.
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From: Chris Heilmann
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 7:55AM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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> "lists38" wrote on 18/03/2005 12:12:36:
>> Just as a general netiquette thing, can everybody please refrain from
>> forwarding their spam filter subject changes? It is not only rather
>> annoying but makes it impossible to search by subject.
>
> Sorry!
>
> /me slaps wrist.

No worries, at least it was not another " I am on vacation " bit.



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From: tim.beadle
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 8:53AM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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"lists38" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote on 18/03/2005 12:12:36:
> Just as a general netiquette thing, can everybody please refrain from
> forwarding their spam filter subject changes? It is not only rather
> annoying but makes it impossible to search by subject.

Sorry!

/me slaps wrist.

Tim

Institute of Physics
Registered charity No. 293851
76 Portland Place, London, W1B 1NT, England

IOP Publishing Limited
Registered in England under Registration No 467514.
Registered Office: Dirac House, Temple Back, Bristol BS1 6BE England

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From: tim.beadle
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 11:32AM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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"lists38" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote on 18/03/2005 12:12:36:
> Just as a general netiquette thing, can everybody please refrain from
> forwarding their spam filter subject changes? It is not only rather
> annoying but makes it impossible to search by subject.

Sorry!

/me slaps wrist.

Tim

Institute of Physics
Registered charity No. 293851
76 Portland Place, London, W1B 1NT, England

IOP Publishing Limited
Registered in England under Registration No 467514.
Registered Office: Dirac House, Temple Back, Bristol BS1 6BE England

This e-mail message has been checked for the presence of computer viruses.

From: Cheryl D Wise
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 11:42AM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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While we are at it, why the tiny text in HTML emails? Impossible to read on
my system so I haven't been following this thread.


Cheryl D. Wise
Certified Professional Web Developer
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://wiserways.com
Office: 713-353-0139

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From: tim.beadle

"lists38" wrote on 18/03/2005 12:12:36:
> Just as a general netiquette thing, can everybody please refrain from
> forwarding their spam filter subject changes? It is not only rather
> annoying but makes it impossible to search by subject.

Sorry!

/me slaps wrist.

From: Michael D. Roush
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 12:57PM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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cdwise wrote:
> While we are at it, why the tiny text in HTML emails? Impossible to read on
> my system so I haven't been following this thread.

I don't mean to chide, but this is a good example of why accessibility
will always be behind 'mainstream' technology. Depending on one's
chosen e-mail application, increasing a font size in a received e-mail
is as simple as clicking a menu item and choosing larger text, or a
keystroke, or a combination-keypress-and-mouse-action. But, passing on
the content is happening - because the material did not arrive at the
user's computer in a form where it was easy to read.

I did much the same thing with the first tiny font e-mail I got on this
thread.... I just skipped over it and went back later after I had read
everything else I got in that bunch. However, I think the lesson for
designers still stands.... 'making accessible' is one thing, making code
that really accomplishes what you are trying to do is sometimes quite
another, and something that cannot be controlled because it involves
choices on the part of the user.

Michael R.

From: Cheryl D Wise
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 1:28PM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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Sure, I could go ahead, open the message in Outlook and change the View |
Text Size for each message but frankly I need a reason to go to that much
trouble. I normally read mail without opening it (attachments are stripped
and my mail is heavily filtered before it gets to the preview pane). If I
have to do something like that it would be to use Format | Plain Text which
also solves the size issue. Personally I don't like receiving mail lists in
HTML but if someone is using HTML I shouldn't need to increase the font size
that I've already set my system to in order to read their message. I happen
to have large fonts set on my system so I can comfortably read normal
messages whether text or html. Yet the message that triggered my comment
completely ignored my specified font settings probably because of the use of
the in the code.

I suspect that I'm in the majority in subscribing to the philosophy that I
shouldn't have to take extra trouble once I've configured my system setting
to meet my size needs to read someone's email, especially on an
accessibility related mail list.

Cheryl D. Wise
Certified Professional Web Developer
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://wiserways.com
Office: 713-353-0139

-----Original Message-----
From: mroush

cdwise wrote:
> While we are at it, why the tiny text in HTML emails? Impossible to
> read on my system so I haven't been following this thread.

I don't mean to chide, but this is a good example of why accessibility will
always be behind 'mainstream' technology. Depending on one's chosen e-mail
application, increasing a font size in a received e-mail is as simple as
clicking a menu item and choosing larger text, or a keystroke, or a
combination-keypress-and-mouse-action. But, passing on the content is
happening - because the material did not arrive at the user's computer in a
form where it was easy to read.

I did much the same thing with the first tiny font e-mail I got on this
thread.... I just skipped over it and went back later after I had read
everything else I got in that bunch. However, I think the lesson for
designers still stands.... 'making accessible' is one thing, making code
that really accomplishes what you are trying to do is sometimes quite
another, and something that cannot be controlled because it involves choices
on the part of the user.

From: Michael Moore
Date: Fri, Mar 18 2005 4:02PM
Subject: Re: Edit/Delete admin area
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If you are using Thunderbird, you can increase the font with +

mike

cdwise wrote:
> While we are at it, why the tiny text in HTML emails? Impossible to read on
> my system so I haven't been following this thread.
>
>
> Cheryl D. Wise
> Certified Professional Web Developer
> Microsoft FrontPage MVP
> http://wiserways.com
> Office: 713-353-0139
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: tim.beadle
>
> "lists38" wrote on 18/03/2005 12:12:36:
>
>>Just as a general netiquette thing, can everybody please refrain from
>>forwarding their spam filter subject changes? It is not only rather
>>annoying but makes it impossible to search by subject.
>
>
> Sorry!
>
> /me slaps wrist.
>
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