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From: jukka.korpela@tieke.fi
Date: Tue, Jan 29 2002 7:30AM
Subject: Re: lynx viewer
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Leo Smith asked:

> Can anyone tell me if the lynx viewer service at:
> http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html
> is the same as viewing one's page linearized?

It is _a_ way of viewing pages as linearized. A very useful tool, but you
could alternatively install Lynx on your system and use it; available from
http://lynx.browser.org/

Linearization can be performed in somewhat different ways. Lynx (and Lynx
emulators) present a document in linearized format on screen, which is
different from a purely sequential presentation (e.g., as speech), since
line breaks matter. Lynx also has some elementary table support.

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Jukka K. Korpela, erityisasiantuntija / senior adviser
TIEKE Tietoyhteiskunnan kehitt

From: Paul Bohman
Date: Tue, Jan 29 2002 10:53AM
Subject: RE: lynx viewer
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One tool that I use to simulate linearization is the Opera browser
(www.opera.com). There is a setting (File > Preferences) called "Page Style"
which lets you choose how pages will be displayed. There is "Author Mode"
and "User Mode", both of which are customizable. Under user mode, you can
uncheck the "Tables" option, which will cause the page to render without
tables when it is in user mode. You will get an idea of how a page will
sound when read by a screen reader this way.

Another tool that is useful is The WAVE validator
(http://www.temple.edu/inst_disabilities/piat/wave/). It shows you the
reading order of the cells within tables. When linearized, content will be
read in that order.

It is also useful to listen to an actual screen reader such as JAWS or Home
Page Reader. I'm not sure that there is any real substitute for this
experience. Still, the other two tools do help.

Paul Bohman
Technology Coordinator
WebAIM (Web Accessibility in Mind)
www.webaim.org
Utah State University
www.usu.edu




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Subject: Re: lynx viewer



Leo Smith asked:

> Can anyone tell me if the lynx viewer service at:
> http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html
> is the same as viewing one's page linearized?

It is _a_ way of viewing pages as linearized. A very useful tool, but you
could alternatively install Lynx on your system and use it; available from
http://lynx.browser.org/

Linearization can be performed in somewhat different ways. Lynx (and Lynx
emulators) present a document in linearized format on screen, which is
different from a purely sequential presentation (e.g., as speech), since
line breaks matter. Lynx also has some elementary table support.

--
Jukka K. Korpela, erityisasiantuntija / senior adviser
TIEKE Tietoyhteiskunnan kehitt

From: Glenda Watson Hyatt
Date: Wed, Jan 30 2002 2:27AM
Subject: RE: lynx viewer
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Paul wrote:
>
> One tool that I use to simulate linearization is the Opera browser
> (www.opera.com). There is a setting (File > Preferences) called
> "Page Style"
> which lets you choose how pages will be displayed. There is "Author Mode"
> and "User Mode", both of which are customizable. Under user mode, you can
> uncheck the "Tables" option, which will cause the page to render without
> tables when it is in user mode. You will get an idea of how a page will
> sound when read by a screen reader this way.
>
I tried this as I have a complex table with axis that I would like to "see"
how it "hears" -- I don't have a screen reader, yet. Perhaps I'm looking in
the wrong place, but I don't see "page style". Where should I be looking?

And, while I'm here, is there a simple way to do table axis in FrontPage? I
ended up handcoding them.


Cheers,
Glenda

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From: Paul Bohman
Date: Wed, Jan 30 2002 9:39AM
Subject: RE: lynx viewer
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In Opera 6.0, It is found in
File > Preferences > Page Style > User Mode > Tables

In Opera 5.0, it is found at
File > Preferences > Documents > Presentation modes > User > Tables

As far as Front Page is concerned, there is no way to markup tables with
scope, axis, headers or other tags without going into the source code, to
the best of my knowledge.

Paul Bohman
Technology Coordinator
WebAIM (Web Accessibility in Mind)
www.webaim.org
Utah State University
www.usu.edu




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Glenda Watson Hyatt
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:27 AM
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Subject: RE: lynx viewer


Paul wrote:
>
> One tool that I use to simulate linearization is the Opera browser
> (www.opera.com). There is a setting (File > Preferences) called
> "Page Style"
> which lets you choose how pages will be displayed. There is "Author Mode"
> and "User Mode", both of which are customizable. Under user mode, you can
> uncheck the "Tables" option, which will cause the page to render without
> tables when it is in user mode. You will get an idea of how a page will
> sound when read by a screen reader this way.
>
I tried this as I have a complex table with axis that I would like to "see"
how it "hears" -- I don't have a screen reader, yet. Perhaps I'm looking in
the wrong place, but I don't see "page style". Where should I be looking?

And, while I'm here, is there a simple way to do table axis in FrontPage? I
ended up handcoding them.


Cheers,
Glenda

*********
Glenda Watson Hyatt
Soaring Eagle Communications
"Creating freedom and power through accessible communications"
E Mail: mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Website: http://www.eaglecom.bc.ca
Want to know how to make your website accessible to more people?
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