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From: Lisa Morgan
Date: Wed, Feb 01 2006 2:15PM
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Hi all,

Has anyone had experience using MAGpie (or another such program) to
produce xml files that contain captions and time stamps? I'm researching
ways to caption the video clips that my company uses in online courses.
What we do is use a Flash video player ( a .swf) to load and play
various external .flv files. So I'm looking for an efficient way to
produce xml files that would work in concert with the Flash video
player.

Thanks for any light you may be able to shed,

Lisa
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Lisa Morgan
Online Course Production
Human Kinetics, Inc.






From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Wed, Feb 01 2006 3:00PM
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Lisa Morgan wrote:

> Has anyone had experience using MAGpie (or another such program) to
> produce xml files that contain captions and time stamps?

Unless I'm mistaken, it's not possible to generate an XML file from
MAGpie. The closest I've come is to export a SAMI file, but the
timestamp code it uses makes it meaningless.

You *could* export to Quicktime format (i.e. generate a QText file) and
do a bit of parsing/finding/replacing to end up with an XML file, though...

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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Wed, Feb 01 2006 7:00PM
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Lisa,
MAGpie's "save" file format is XML. You could use that.

You can export the SAMI file and then have a xsl file to transform the
SAMI data into XML that you like for your actionscript.

You may also consider HiCaption, which is capable of generating SAMI as
well as an xml output.

Hope this helps,
AWK



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> Lisa Morgan wrote:
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> > Has anyone had experience using MAGpie (or another such program) to
> > produce xml files that contain captions and time stamps?
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> Unless I'm mistaken, it's not possible to generate an XML
> file from MAGpie. The closest I've come is to export a SAMI
> file, but the timestamp code it uses makes it meaningless.
>
> You *could* export to Quicktime format (i.e. generate a QText
> file) and do a bit of parsing/finding/replacing to end up
> with an XML file, though...
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From: Michael_Jordan@hmco.com
Date: Wed, Feb 01 2006 7:15PM
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Another option for working with .flv files for playback in Flash is
Captionate (http://buraks.com/captionate/). It works a little
differently, in that it encodes the caption data in the playback stream of
the .flv, which has its benefits, but is not the standard way of doing
things. You can also export the captions in XML, or import the captions
from one .flv to another. Which is useful if you target multiple
bandwidths.

Michael A. Jordan
Houghton Mifflin Company
School Division/Instructional Technology




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Hi all,
Has anyone had experience using MAGpie (or another such program) to
produce xml files that contain captions and time stamps? I'm researching
ways to caption the video clips that my company uses in online courses.
What we do is use a Flash video player ( a .swf) to load and play various
external .flv files. So I'm looking for an efficient way to produce xml
files that would work in concert with the Flash video player.
Thanks for any light you may be able to shed,
Lisa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lisa Morgan
Online Course Production
Human Kinetics, Inc.








From: Hoffman, Allen
Date: Wed, Feb 22 2006 11:20AM
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Question:
Is it ever OK to only use position as the means of identifying form
elements in HTML and meet 1194.22(n)?

Or, must form elements always be marked up using attributes to be
considered compliant?




From: Jon Gunderson
Date: Wed, Feb 22 2006 11:30AM
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For compliance form elements need to use proper labeling,
typically using the LABEL element.

For more information:
http://cita.rehab.uiuc.edu/html-best-practices/nav/forms.php

Jon

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>Is it ever OK to only use position as the means of
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>elements in HTML and meet 1194.22(n)?
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>Or, must form elements always be marked up using attributes
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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Wed, Feb 22 2006 12:00PM
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> Question:
> Is it ever OK to only use position as the means of
> identifying form elements in HTML and meet 1194.22(n)?
>
> Or, must form elements always be marked up using attributes
> to be considered compliant?

You can use only position, but it places a higher burden of testing on
the developer. If it works with assistive technologies, then it passes
22n. Using label (or in some cases, the title attribute) is the best
and most reliable way.

22n) When electronic forms are designed to be completed on-line, the
form shall allow people using assistive technology to access the
information, field elements, and functionality required for completion
and submission of the form, including all directions and cues.

AWK