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From: Joni K Allison
Date: Tue, Dec 05 2006 12:10PM
Subject: Captioning Services
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We are finding that we are getting more and more requests for video and
other multimedia and now realize we may need to go to an outside vendor
to assist us with the captioning of the videos. Can you share any
insight on vendors that provide good service and quick turnaround time?

Thanks so much!

Joni K. Allison
Assistant Director
Delphi Center for Teaching and Learning
University of Louisville
Office (502) 852-8565
Fax (502) 852-0393
http://delphi.louisville.edu




From: John Foliot
Date: Tue, Dec 05 2006 12:20PM
Subject: Re: Captioning Services
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Joni K Allison wrote:
> We are finding that we are getting more and more requests for video
> and other multimedia and now realize we may need to go to an outside
> vendor to assist us with the captioning of the videos. Can you share
> any insight on vendors that provide good service and quick turnaround
> time?

I know that Automatic Synch are pretty good, and have a decent turn-around
time. They have established a system where-by you can upload content to a
server, and they will "get-it-done" and back to you quickly.

See: http://www.automaticsync.com/ Tell them I sent ya... <grin>

JF
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John Foliot
Academic Technology Specialist
Stanford Online Accessibility Program
http://soap.stanford.edu
Stanford University
560 Escondido Mall
Meyer Library 181
Stanford, CA 94305-3093






From: Patrick Portejoie
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 11:40AM
Subject: Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?
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Somebody told me that a web application that is not accessible
(multiples frames with no explicit names, no alt on images, no explicit
association between labels and form fields etc...) could become
accessible (low level of accessibility though) using Citrix
(http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/ps2/technology/index.asp). While the
whole web application code is modified for accessibility, this solution
could be used as a quick workaround.
I'm rather skeptical... I don't know how this tool could create non
existent alt or could find the relationship between a label and its
field... (etc.)
Do you ever use or hear about this solution? Can it really be a quick
improvement on accessibility side? What do you think about that?


Patrick Portejoie
UI Architect / Accessibility specialist





From: Moore, Michael
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 12:11PM
Subject: Re: Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?
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>From a quick look at the services offered by Citrix, I would say that
someone has confused providing access to an application with providing
an accessible application.

Mike

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Subject: [WebAIM] Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?

Somebody told me that a web application that is not accessible
(multiples frames with no explicit names, no alt on images, no explicit
association between labels and form fields etc...) could become
accessible (low level of accessibility though) using Citrix
(http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/ps2/technology/index.asp). While the
whole web application code is modified for accessibility, this solution
could be used as a quick workaround.
I'm rather skeptical... I don't know how this tool could create non
existent alt or could find the relationship between a label and its
field... (etc.) Do you ever use or hear about this solution? Can it
really be a quick improvement on accessibility side? What do you think
about that?


Patrick Portejoie
UI Architect / Accessibility specialist

From: Rebecca Ballard
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 12:12PM
Subject: Re: Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?
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I'd agree with Mike. Citrix apps have been just about accessible in theory
in the last couple of years. It still in theory and doesn't by itself give
accessibility.


Rebecca

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Sent: 08 December 2006 17:03
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?

>From a quick look at the services offered by Citrix, I would say that
someone has confused providing access to an application with providing an
accessible application.

Mike

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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:55 AM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?

Somebody told me that a web application that is not accessible (multiples
frames with no explicit names, no alt on images, no explicit association
between labels and form fields etc...) could become accessible (low level of
accessibility though) using Citrix
(http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/ps2/technology/index.asp). While the
whole web application code is modified for accessibility, this solution
could be used as a quick workaround.
I'm rather skeptical... I don't know how this tool could create non existent
alt or could find the relationship between a label and its field... (etc.)
Do you ever use or hear about this solution? Can it really be a quick
improvement on accessibility side? What do you think about that?


Patrick Portejoie
UI Architect / Accessibility specialist

From: Phil Teare
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 12:13PM
Subject: Re: Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?
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For a free way the get a similar effect (which is not by any means a full
solution) try www.loband.org

This is not lobands indended use, but its works for most sites and is
free...

It simply strips everything graphical out. Which then allows easier control
and better continuity of the styleing through the client app.

--
Phil Teare,
Lead Developer,
www.talklets.com

From: Robinson, Norman B - Washington, DC
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 12:14PM
Subject: Re: Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?
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I would very much doubt it. We've had significant integration issues
with Citrix and other Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) applications. The
screen readers themselves didn't work with most of the clients until
(relatively) recently, which also involved Microsoft updating the
operating system functions to pass the accessibility information through
to the client. For more information, the Wikipedia article on Remote
Desktop Protocol via URL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Desktop_Protocol might be of use to
you.

If it sounds too good to be true..

Regards,


Norman B. Robinson

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Subject: [WebAIM] Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?


Somebody told me that a web application that is not accessible
(multiples frames with no explicit names, no alt on images, no explicit
association between labels and form fields etc...) could become
accessible (low level of accessibility though) using Citrix
(http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/ps2/technology/index.asp). While the
whole web application code is modified for accessibility, this solution
could be used as a quick workaround.
I'm rather skeptical... I don't know how this tool could create non
existent alt or could find the relationship between a label and its
field... (etc.)
Do you ever use or hear about this solution? Can it really be a quick
improvement on accessibility side? What do you think about that?


Patrick Portejoie
UI Architect / Accessibility specialist

From: Patrick Portejoie
Date: Thu, Dec 14 2006 12:14PM
Subject: Re: Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?
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Yes... it sounded too good to be true...
I think that everybody in accessibility community would be aware of such app if it was really able to provide this functionality, but I had to ask this question in case I missed something.
Thank you everybody for your answers.
--
Patrick Portejoie

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Sent: 11 décembre 2006 09:12
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Use of Citrix to provide accessibility?
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If it sounds too good to be true..

Regards,


Norman B. Robinson