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From: Jan Heck
Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 3:10PM
Subject: Problems with MAGpie 2 and .mov
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Hi, everyone,



I'm trying to caption a .mov video with MAGpie 2.



. Every time I create a new project, select the source file, and hit
the OK button, the editor window and media player flashes quickly, then the
whole application crashes and closes.

. QuickTime works fine stand-alone, i.e., I can play the very same
source file on the QT player with no problem.

. Nevertheless, I reinstalled both QT and MAGpie, with the same
results.

. I have a similar crash problem with .wmv files, so it's not
exclusive to .mov files.



Does anyone have any idea what's going on or what else I might try?



--

Jan Heck

Instructor, Accessible Learning Technology

Coastline Community College



From: Jared Smith
Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 3:20PM
Subject: Re: Problems with MAGpie 2 and .mov
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jan Heck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I'm trying to caption a .mov video with MAGpie 2.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what's going on or what else I might try?

The Java and GRINS player set up in MAGpie 2 is fairly complicated to
get set up correctly. There haven't been updates for a while, so it
might not be compatible with new versions of Java.

I'd recommend exporting a .wav or .mp3 with just the audio and then
use it in MAGpie to produce the captions. Unless there is something
you need to see in the video, this takes up less screen space and
MAGpie will be much more responsive when the video isn't loaded.

Or you could just use MAGpie 1, though you'd be limited to files that
can be opened in Windows Media Player.

There is a MAGpie mailing list -
http://ncam.wgbh.org/webaccess/magpie/magpie2_list.html

Jared Smith
WebAIM

From: Jan Heck
Date: Fri, Apr 11 2008 4:30PM
Subject: Re: Problems with MAGpie 2 and .mov
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Hey, Jared,

Just an FYI: I tried an .mp3 file, and it still crashed.

If it is the version of JAVA I'm using, I guess that's what I get for
following directions to get the latest version...

I have sent a query to the MAGpie listserv, thanks for the tip!

~ Jan

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Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Problems with MAGpie 2 and .mov

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jan Heck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I'm trying to caption a .mov video with MAGpie 2.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what's going on or what else I might try?

The Java and GRINS player set up in MAGpie 2 is fairly complicated to
get set up correctly. There haven't been updates for a while, so it
might not be compatible with new versions of Java.

I'd recommend exporting a .wav or .mp3 with just the audio and then
use it in MAGpie to produce the captions. Unless there is something
you need to see in the video, this takes up less screen space and
MAGpie will be much more responsive when the video isn't loaded.

Or you could just use MAGpie 1, though you'd be limited to files that
can be opened in Windows Media Player.

There is a MAGpie mailing list -
http://ncam.wgbh.org/webaccess/magpie/magpie2_list.html

Jared Smith
WebAIM

From: Christophe Strobbe
Date: Mon, Apr 14 2008 12:00PM
Subject: Re: Problems with MAGpie 2 and .mov
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Hi Jan,

At 23:08 11/04/2008, you wrote:
>Hi, everyone,
>
>I'm trying to caption a .mov video with MAGpie 2.
>
>
>. Every time I create a new project, select the source file, and hit
>the OK button, the editor window and media player flashes quickly, then the
>whole application crashes and closes.
>
>. QuickTime works fine stand-alone, i.e., I can play the very same
>source file on the QT player with no problem.
>
>. Nevertheless, I reinstalled both QT and MAGpie, with the same
>results.
>
>. I have a similar crash problem with .wmv files, so it's not
>exclusive to .mov files.
>
>
>Does anyone have any idea what's going on or what else I might try?


A colleague of mine also had crash problems, so she first tried
MAGpie 1 as an alternative and then discoverd URUWorks Subtitle
Workshop <http://www.urusoft.net/home.php?lang=1>;, which appears to
have more features.

Best regards,

Christophe


>--
>
>Jan Heck
>Instructor, Accessible Learning Technology
>Coastline Community College


---
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Research Group on Document Architectures
Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442
B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee
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tel: +32 16 32 85 51
http://www.docarch.be/


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From: Christophe Strobbe
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2008 7:10AM
Subject: Re: Problems with MAGpie 2 and .mov
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Hi Jan,

At 19:51 14/04/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Jan,
>
>At 23:08 11/04/2008, you wrote:
> >Hi, everyone,
> >
> >I'm trying to caption a .mov video with MAGpie 2.
> > (...)
> >Does anyone have any idea what's going on or what else I might try?
>
>
>A colleague of mine also had crash problems, so she first tried
>MAGpie 1 as an alternative and then discoverd URUWorks Subtitle
>Workshop <http://www.urusoft.net/home.php?lang=1>;, which appears to
>have more features.


There is something I forgot to mention about Subtitle Workshop: when
my colleague exported captions as SAMI, Windows Media Player didn't
render them. We found that the attribute values in the SAMI file had
single quotes and replaced them with double quotes; after that,
Windows Media Player was able to process the SAMI file and render the
captions. (We use Windows Media Player 11 on Windows XP.)

Best regards,

Christophe

> >--
> >
> >Jan Heck
> >Instructor, Accessible Learning Technology
> >Coastline Community College



---
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--
Christophe Strobbe
K.U.Leuven - Dept. of Electrical Engineering - SCD
Research Group on Document Architectures
Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442
B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee
BELGIUM
tel: +32 16 32 85 51
http://www.docarch.be/


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From: Spruill Kevin
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 9:50AM
Subject: Re: Problems with MAGpie 2 and .mov
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FYI - another captioning tool (folks are experiencing issues w/ the new
version of Magpie)


Kevin Spruill
IT Specialist
Information Resources Accessibility Program
OS:CIO:ES:BI:CS:IRAP:IT
Phone: (202) 283-7059
IRAP Web site: http://irap.web.irs.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe Strobbe [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:52 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Problems with MAGpie 2 and .mov

Hi Jan,

At 23:08 11/04/2008, you wrote:
>Hi, everyone,
>
>I'm trying to caption a .mov video with MAGpie 2.
>
>
>. Every time I create a new project, select the source file, and hit
>the OK button, the editor window and media player flashes quickly, then

>the whole application crashes and closes.
>
>. QuickTime works fine stand-alone, i.e., I can play the very same
>source file on the QT player with no problem.
>
>. Nevertheless, I reinstalled both QT and MAGpie, with the same
>results.
>
>. I have a similar crash problem with .wmv files, so it's not
>exclusive to .mov files.
>
>
>Does anyone have any idea what's going on or what else I might try?


A colleague of mine also had crash problems, so she first tried MAGpie 1
as an alternative and then discoverd URUWorks Subtitle Workshop
<http://www.urusoft.net/home.php?lang=1>;, which appears to have more
features.

Best regards,

Christophe


>--
>
>Jan Heck
>Instructor, Accessible Learning Technology Coastline Community College


---
Please don't invite me to LinkedIn, Facebook, Quechup or other
"social networks". You may have agreed to their "privacy policy", but
I haven't.

--
Christophe Strobbe
K.U.Leuven - Dept. of Electrical Engineering - SCD
Research Group on Document Architectures
Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442
B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee
BELGIUM
tel: +32 16 32 85 51
http://www.docarch.be/


Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm