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From: Marco Maertens
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 1:51PM
Subject: JAWS repeats itself on checkboxes and radio buttons
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Hi,
I'm running into a problem where JAWS 11 (both 32- and 64-bit versions) with Firefox 3.6.3 consistently reads out properly coded radio buttons and check boxes twice.
For instance, if you try the radio buttons demonstrated on the WebAIM techniques page at this address:
http://www.webaim.org/techniques/forms/controls
The page (visually) shows something like this:
Choose a shipping method:
(radio button) Overnight
(radio button) Two day
(radio button) Ground
... but JAWS reads the following:
Choose a shipping message colon
Choose a shipping message colon
radio button not checked overnight overnight
radio button not checked two day two day
radio button not checked ground ground
I've confirmed and reproduced this behavior on a rather complicated site we're working on for a client, on a super-simple test page, on eBay.com, and on WebAIM.org (as shown above). The problem does not occur when using IE7 (I have not yet tested IE8).
The JAWS data sheet says it works with Firefox. It looks to me like a compatibility problem between JAWS and Firefox. But this seems like a rather big problem. Is anyone else familiar with this? I've searched around and haven't found much of anything. Our client is asking why the page is read out so strangely in JAWS.
Thanks in advance for insights or input!
-Marco.
Marco Maertens
Developer and Web Accessibility Specialist
Empathy Lab
610-572-2371
From: Patrick Burke
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 1:57PM
Subject: Re: JAWS repeats itself on checkboxes and radio buttons
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This is (fairly) well-known, but so far not acted upon by Freedom Scientific.
Jaws with IE8 behaves correctly in this same scenario.
Patrick
At 11:52 AM 6/21/2010, Marco Maertens wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm running into a problem where JAWS 11 (both 32- and 64-bit
>versions) with Firefox 3.6.3 consistently reads out properly coded
>radio buttons and check boxes twice.
>
>For instance, if you try the radio buttons demonstrated on the
>WebAIM techniques page at this address:
>
>http://www.webaim.org/techniques/forms/controls
>
>The page (visually) shows something like this:
>
>Choose a shipping method:
>(radio button) Overnight
>(radio button) Two day
>(radio button) Ground
>
>... but JAWS reads the following:
>
>Choose a shipping message colon
>Choose a shipping message colon
>radio button not checked overnight overnight
>radio button not checked two day two day
>radio button not checked ground ground
>
>I've confirmed and reproduced this behavior on a rather complicated
>site we're working on for a client, on a super-simple test page, on
>eBay.com, and on WebAIM.org (as shown above). The problem does not
>occur when using IE7 (I have not yet tested IE8).
>
>The JAWS data sheet says it works with Firefox. It looks to me like
>a compatibility problem between JAWS and Firefox. But this seems
>like a rather big problem. Is anyone else familiar with this? I've
>searched around and haven't found much of anything. Our client is
>asking why the page is read out so strangely in JAWS.
>
>Thanks in advance for insights or input!
>
>-Marco.
>
>Marco Maertens
>Developer and Web Accessibility Specialist
>Empathy Lab
>610-572-2371
>
--
Patrick J. Burke
Coordinator
UCLA Disabilities &
Computing Program
Phone: 310 206-6004
E-mail: burke <at> ucla. edu
Department Contact: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
From: David Farough
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 2:27PM
Subject: Re: JAWS repeats itself on checkboxes and radio buttons
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I see this also in earlier versions of Firefox. This only happens
though when arrowing through the document. if you use tab or press "R"
to move to each of the radio buttons the label is read only once.
David Farough
Application Accessibility Coordinator/coordonateur de l'accessibilité
Information Technology Services Directorate /
Direction des services d'information technologiques
Public Service Commission / Commission de la fonction publique
Email / Courriel: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Tel. / Tél: (613) 992-2779
>>> Patrick Burke < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > 02:57 PM Monday, June 21, 2010 >>>
This is (fairly) well-known, but so far not acted upon by Freedom
Scientific.
Jaws with IE8 behaves correctly in this same scenario.
Patrick
At 11:52 AM 6/21/2010, Marco Maertens wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm running into a problem where JAWS 11 (both 32- and 64-bit
>versions) with Firefox 3.6.3 consistently reads out properly coded
>radio buttons and check boxes twice.
>
>For instance, if you try the radio buttons demonstrated on the
>WebAIM techniques page at this address:
>
>http://www.webaim.org/techniques/forms/controls
>
>The page (visually) shows something like this:
>
>Choose a shipping method:
>(radio button) Overnight
>(radio button) Two day
>(radio button) Ground
>
>... but JAWS reads the following:
>
>Choose a shipping message colon
>Choose a shipping message colon
>radio button not checked overnight overnight
>radio button not checked two day two day
>radio button not checked ground ground
>
>I've confirmed and reproduced this behavior on a rather complicated
>site we're working on for a client, on a super-simple test page, on
>eBay.com, and on WebAIM.org (as shown above). The problem does not
>occur when using IE7 (I have not yet tested IE8).
>
>The JAWS data sheet says it works with Firefox. It looks to me like
>a compatibility problem between JAWS and Firefox. But this seems
>like a rather big problem. Is anyone else familiar with this? I've
>searched around and haven't found much of anything. Our client is
>asking why the page is read out so strangely in JAWS.
>
>Thanks in advance for insights or input!
>
>-Marco.
>
>Marco Maertens
>Developer and Web Accessibility Specialist
>Empathy Lab
>610-572-2371
>
--
Patrick J. Burke
Coordinator
UCLA Disabilities &
Computing Program
Phone: 310 206-6004
E-mail: burke <at> ucla. edu
Department Contact: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
From: DAVOUD TOHIDY
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 3:15PM
Subject: Re: JAWS repeats itself on checkboxes and radio buttons
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Assuming that there is no title attribute used in your code.
Could you try the code at the end of the following page with JAWS and provide feedback please?
www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/kbd.html
davoud
>
From: Patrick Burke
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 3:54PM
Subject: Re: JAWS repeats itself on checkboxes and radio buttons
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It is the same:
The text from the radio button is repeated by Jaws (that is:
"radio button beta"
"beta")
Jaws 11.0.1447, Ff3.6.3.
Patrick
At 01:00 PM 6/21/2010, DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote:
>Assuming that there is no title attribute used in your code.
>
>Could you try the code at the end of the following page with JAWS
>and provide feedback please?
>
>www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/kbd.html
>
>davoud
--
Patrick J. Burke
Coordinator
UCLA Disabilities &
Computing Program
Phone: 310 206-6004
E-mail: burke <at> ucla. edu
Department Contact: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
From: ckrugman@sbcglobal.net
Date: Fri, Jun 25 2010 10:24AM
Subject: Re: JAWS repeats itself on checkboxes and radio buttons
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I just tried using JAWS 11 and IE8 and JAWS read the radial buttons properly
also showing where to check.
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From: "Marco Maertens" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject: [WebAIM] JAWS repeats itself on checkboxes and radio buttons
> Hi,
>
> I'm running into a problem where JAWS 11 (both 32- and 64-bit versions)
> with Firefox 3.6.3 consistently reads out properly coded radio buttons and
> check boxes twice.
>
> For instance, if you try the radio buttons demonstrated on the WebAIM
> techniques page at this address:
>
> http://www.webaim.org/techniques/forms/controls
>
> The page (visually) shows something like this:
>
> Choose a shipping method:
> (radio button) Overnight
> (radio button) Two day
> (radio button) Ground
>
> ... but JAWS reads the following:
>
> Choose a shipping message colon
> Choose a shipping message colon
> radio button not checked overnight overnight
> radio button not checked two day two day
> radio button not checked ground ground
>
> I've confirmed and reproduced this behavior on a rather complicated site
> we're working on for a client, on a super-simple test page, on eBay.com,
> and on WebAIM.org (as shown above). The problem does not occur when using
> IE7 (I have not yet tested IE8).
>
> The JAWS data sheet says it works with Firefox. It looks to me like a
> compatibility problem between JAWS and Firefox. But this seems like a
> rather big problem. Is anyone else familiar with this? I've searched
> around and haven't found much of anything. Our client is asking why the
> page is read out so strangely in JAWS.
>
> Thanks in advance for insights or input!
>
> -Marco.
>
> Marco Maertens
> Developer and Web Accessibility Specialist
> Empathy Lab
> 610-572-2371
>
>
From: ckrugman@sbcglobal.net
Date: Fri, Jun 25 2010 10:48AM
Subject: Re: JAWS repeats itself on checkboxes and radio buttons
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There were no problems with it using JAWS11 and IE8.
Chuck
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From: "DAVOUD TOHIDY" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: "webaim forum" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] JAWS repeats itself on checkboxes and radio buttons
>
> Assuming that there is no title attribute used in your code.
>
> Could you try the code at the end of the following page with JAWS and
> provide feedback please?
>
> www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/kbd.html
>
> davoud
>
>
>
>>
From: 김진섭
Date: Sat, Jun 26 2010 4:57AM
Subject: Re: JAWS repeats itself on checkboxes and radio buttons
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Like the majority of opinion, I also found out that if you use IE8 there seem to be no problem :)