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From: Lucy Greco
Date: Mon, Aug 22 2011 1:39PM
Subject: built-in speech in Acrobat
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Hello:
never having used it myself I can't remember where to find the Acrobat reader speech. As well, I was wondering how dependent is the built-in speech on document structure and tagging. Will the built-in speech know how to deal with multicolumn text. Thanks for the help Lucy

Lucy Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
http://attlc.berkeley.edu
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu

From: Karlen Communications
Date: Mon, Aug 22 2011 2:03PM
Subject: Re: built-in speech in Acrobat
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You can find the Read Out Loud tool in the View menu at the end of the menu
so just press Up Arrow. It has a sub-menu and the first thing you need to do
is to activate it. This is not authorization but is just in effect turning
it on. Once you've finished, remember to go back and deactivate it or turn
it off.

Read Out Loud is a TTS or Text-to-Speech tool with only a few controls: read
page and read document. It does depend on the Tags to read the document
correctly. So it is not as robust as a screen reader or even other TTS tools
and is meant primarily as a demonstration or idea of what the document would
be when read using AT. Although you can use it for quality assurance on
tagged PDF, due to its limitations and the fact that it will often not read
things that a screen reader will, it should not be the only speech output
tool used.

Cheers, Karen


-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Lucy Greco
Sent: August-22-11 3:34 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )
Subject: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat

Hello:
never having used it myself I can't remember where to find the Acrobat
reader speech. As well, I was wondering how dependent is the built-in
speech on document structure and tagging. Will the built-in speech know how
to deal with multicolumn text. Thanks for the help Lucy

Lucy Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
http://attlc.berkeley.edu
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu

From: Patrick Burke
Date: Mon, Aug 22 2011 2:09PM
Subject: Re: built-in speech in Acrobat
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It's in the View Menu. TO which I can only say, LOL!

Patrick

At 12:33 PM 8/22/2011, Lucy Greco wrote:
>Hello:
>never having used it myself I can't remember where to find the
>Acrobat reader speech. As well, I was wondering how dependent is
>the built-in speech on document structure and tagging. Will the
>built-in speech know how to deal with multicolumn text. Thanks for
>the help Lucy
>
>Lucy Greco
>Assistive Technology Specialist
>Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
>(510) 643-7591
>http://attlc.berkeley.edu
>http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
>
>


--
Patrick J. Burke

Coordinator
UCLA Disabilities &
Computing Program

Phone: 310 206-6004
E-mail: burke <at> ucla. edu
Department Contact: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Mon, Aug 22 2011 2:33PM
Subject: Re: built-in speech in Acrobat
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Ok so I have a system with reader 9 and acrobat pro on it and it's not there hum

Lucy Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
http://attlc.berkeley.edu
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Patrick Burke
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:01 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat

It's in the View Menu. TO which I can only say, LOL!

Patrick

At 12:33 PM 8/22/2011, Lucy Greco wrote:
>Hello:
>never having used it myself I can't remember where to find the
>Acrobat reader speech. As well, I was wondering how dependent is
>the built-in speech on document structure and tagging. Will the
>built-in speech know how to deal with multicolumn text. Thanks for
>the help Lucy
>
>Lucy Greco
>Assistive Technology Specialist
>Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
>(510) 643-7591
>http://attlc.berkeley.edu
>http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
>
>


--
Patrick J. Burke

Coordinator
UCLA Disabilities &
Computing Program

Phone: 310 206-6004
E-mail: burke <at> ucla. edu
Department Contact: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Mon, Aug 22 2011 2:39PM
Subject: Re: built-in speech in Acrobat
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I looked on another system and its there I think I will need to reinstall a computer smile

Lucy Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
http://attlc.berkeley.edu
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: Lucy Greco
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:28 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: RE: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat

Ok so I have a system with reader 9 and acrobat pro on it and it's not there hum

Lucy Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
http://attlc.berkeley.edu
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Patrick Burke
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:01 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat

It's in the View Menu. TO which I can only say, LOL!

Patrick

At 12:33 PM 8/22/2011, Lucy Greco wrote:
>Hello:
>never having used it myself I can't remember where to find the
>Acrobat reader speech. As well, I was wondering how dependent is
>the built-in speech on document structure and tagging. Will the
>built-in speech know how to deal with multicolumn text. Thanks for
>the help Lucy
>
>Lucy Greco
>Assistive Technology Specialist
>Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
>(510) 643-7591
>http://attlc.berkeley.edu
>http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
>
>


--
Patrick J. Burke

Coordinator
UCLA Disabilities &
Computing Program

Phone: 310 206-6004
E-mail: burke <at> ucla. edu
Department Contact: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

From: Karlen Communications
Date: Mon, Aug 22 2011 2:45PM
Subject: Re: built-in speech in Acrobat
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My instructions were for acrobat pro 9...double hmmmmm.

I had the app open to get the right commands.

Cheers, Karen

Out of Office, Sent from my iPad

On 2011-08-22, at 4:28 PM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Ok so I have a system with reader 9 and acrobat pro on it and it's not there hum
>
> Lucy Greco
> Assistive Technology Specialist
> Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
> (510) 643-7591
> http://attlc.berkeley.edu
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Patrick Burke
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:01 PM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat
>
> It's in the View Menu. TO which I can only say, LOL!
>
> Patrick
>
> At 12:33 PM 8/22/2011, Lucy Greco wrote:
>> Hello:
>> never having used it myself I can't remember where to find the
>> Acrobat reader speech. As well, I was wondering how dependent is
>> the built-in speech on document structure and tagging. Will the
>> built-in speech know how to deal with multicolumn text. Thanks for
>> the help Lucy
>>
>> Lucy Greco
>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
>> (510) 643-7591
>> http://attlc.berkeley.edu
>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Patrick J. Burke
>
> Coordinator
> UCLA Disabilities &
> Computing Program
>
> Phone: 310 206-6004
> E-mail: burke <at> ucla. edu
> Department Contact: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
>

From: Patrick Burke
Date: Mon, Aug 22 2011 2:51PM
Subject: Re: built-in speech in Acrobat
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I think there's an option to ad Read Out Loud or not somewhere in the
install process. Or possibly in Setup, the first time you launch
Acrobat. #fuzzymemory

Patrick
At 01:37 PM 8/22/2011, Lucy Greco wrote:
>I looked on another system and its there I think I will need to
>reinstall a computer smile
>
>Lucy Greco
>Assistive Technology Specialist
>Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
>(510) 643-7591
>http://attlc.berkeley.edu
>http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lucy Greco
>Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:28 PM
>To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>Subject: RE: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat
>
>Ok so I have a system with reader 9 and acrobat pro on it and it's
>not there hum
>
>Lucy Greco
>Assistive Technology Specialist
>Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
>(510) 643-7591
>http://attlc.berkeley.edu
>http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Patrick Burke
>Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:01 PM
>To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat
>
>It's in the View Menu. TO which I can only say, LOL!
>
>Patrick
>
>At 12:33 PM 8/22/2011, Lucy Greco wrote:
> >Hello:
> >never having used it myself I can't remember where to find the
> >Acrobat reader speech. As well, I was wondering how dependent is
> >the built-in speech on document structure and tagging. Will the
> >built-in speech know how to deal with multicolumn text. Thanks for
> >the help Lucy
> >
> >Lucy Greco

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Mon, Aug 22 2011 2:57PM
Subject: Re: built-in speech in Acrobat
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Thanks for your quick reply so if I tell someone they can do a quick and dirty test on a multicolumn document will the built-in speech read across both columns if a screen reader would read across both columns. I.e. if the document has no structure. I really should know this.

Lucy Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
http://attlc.berkeley.edu
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:04 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat

You can find the Read Out Loud tool in the View menu at the end of the menu
so just press Up Arrow. It has a sub-menu and the first thing you need to do
is to activate it. This is not authorization but is just in effect turning
it on. Once you've finished, remember to go back and deactivate it or turn
it off.

Read Out Loud is a TTS or Text-to-Speech tool with only a few controls: read
page and read document. It does depend on the Tags to read the document
correctly. So it is not as robust as a screen reader or even other TTS tools
and is meant primarily as a demonstration or idea of what the document would
be when read using AT. Although you can use it for quality assurance on
tagged PDF, due to its limitations and the fact that it will often not read
things that a screen reader will, it should not be the only speech output
tool used.

Cheers, Karen


-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Lucy Greco
Sent: August-22-11 3:34 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )
Subject: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat

Hello:
never having used it myself I can't remember where to find the Acrobat
reader speech. As well, I was wondering how dependent is the built-in
speech on document structure and tagging. Will the built-in speech know how
to deal with multicolumn text. Thanks for the help Lucy

Lucy Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
http://attlc.berkeley.edu
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu

From: Karlen Communications
Date: Mon, Aug 22 2011 3:03PM
Subject: Re: built-in speech in Acrobat
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You might use it in combination with Reflow - Ctrl + 4 from the number row. This is a toggle and will give you a visual representation of how the document will be read.

If a document has tables they will not be reflowed. If the document has form controls none of the document will be reflowed, but if you are just looking at content it is a useful tool.

Cheers, Karen

Out of Office, Sent from my iPad

On 2011-08-22, at 4:45 PM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Thanks for your quick reply so if I tell someone they can do a quick and dirty test on a multicolumn document will the built-in speech read across both columns if a screen reader would read across both columns. I.e. if the document has no structure. I really should know this.
>
> Lucy Greco
> Assistive Technology Specialist
> Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
> (510) 643-7591
> http://attlc.berkeley.edu
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Karlen Communications
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:04 PM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat
>
> You can find the Read Out Loud tool in the View menu at the end of the menu
> so just press Up Arrow. It has a sub-menu and the first thing you need to do
> is to activate it. This is not authorization but is just in effect turning
> it on. Once you've finished, remember to go back and deactivate it or turn
> it off.
>
> Read Out Loud is a TTS or Text-to-Speech tool with only a few controls: read
> page and read document. It does depend on the Tags to read the document
> correctly. So it is not as robust as a screen reader or even other TTS tools
> and is meant primarily as a demonstration or idea of what the document would
> be when read using AT. Although you can use it for quality assurance on
> tagged PDF, due to its limitations and the fact that it will often not read
> things that a screen reader will, it should not be the only speech output
> tool used.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Lucy Greco
> Sent: August-22-11 3:34 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )
> Subject: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat
>
> Hello:
> never having used it myself I can't remember where to find the Acrobat
> reader speech. As well, I was wondering how dependent is the built-in
> speech on document structure and tagging. Will the built-in speech know how
> to deal with multicolumn text. Thanks for the help Lucy
>
> Lucy Greco
> Assistive Technology Specialist
> Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
> (510) 643-7591
> http://attlc.berkeley.edu
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
>
>
>

From: Karlen Communications
Date: Mon, Aug 22 2011 3:09PM
Subject: Re: built-in speech in Acrobat
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It should install automatically. I've never had to consciously install it. Acrobat or Reader most likely need repair.

Cheers, Karen

Out of Office, Sent from my iPad

On 2011-08-22, at 4:53 PM, Patrick Burke < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> I think there's an option to ad Read Out Loud or not somewhere in the
> install process. Or possibly in Setup, the first time you launch
> Acrobat. #fuzzymemory
>
> Patrick
> At 01:37 PM 8/22/2011, Lucy Greco wrote:
>> I looked on another system and its there I think I will need to
>> reinstall a computer smile
>>
>> Lucy Greco
>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
>> (510) 643-7591
>> http://attlc.berkeley.edu
>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lucy Greco
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:28 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: RE: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat
>>
>> Ok so I have a system with reader 9 and acrobat pro on it and it's
>> not there hum
>>
>> Lucy Greco
>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
>> (510) 643-7591
>> http://attlc.berkeley.edu
>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Patrick Burke
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:01 PM
>> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] built-in speech in Acrobat
>>
>> It's in the View Menu. TO which I can only say, LOL!
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> At 12:33 PM 8/22/2011, Lucy Greco wrote:
>>> Hello:
>>> never having used it myself I can't remember where to find the
>>> Acrobat reader speech. As well, I was wondering how dependent is
>>> the built-in speech on document structure and tagging. Will the
>>> built-in speech know how to deal with multicolumn text. Thanks for
>>> the help Lucy
>>>
>>> Lucy Greco
>
>
>
>