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From: Sandy
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 9:18AM
Subject: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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hey all,

I am working on a site which will be hosting a bunch of youtube movies.
They will be captioned and transcribed.

The problem is that the youtube player is not keyboard accessible and I
haven't been able to find one that lets me access the "cc" link to show
the captions.

If I enter this movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRS8MkLhQmM&;cc=1

into the easy youtube player
http://icant.co.uk/easy-youtube/

I can't get at the captions. If I embed the youtube player I can use my
mouse to click on the captions but I can't tab to the player.

Is there a keyboard accessible player out there that can be embedded in
a page that has access to captions?

thanks!
Sandy

From: Bourne, Sarah (ITD)
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 9:27AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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Sandy,

The last I heard, the problem is that YouTube does not offer access to closed captioning features through its API. So, if you build an improved interface for keyboard operation, you lose the captions.

Very frustrating!

sb

Sarah E. Bourne
Director of Assistive Technology &
Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
Information Technology Division
Commonwealth of Massachusetts
1 Ashburton Pl. rm 1601 Boston MA 02108
617-626-4502  fax 617-626-4516
http://twitter.com/sarahebourne
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Subject: [WebAIM] accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option


hey all,

I am working on a site which will be hosting a bunch of youtube movies.
They will be captioned and transcribed.

The problem is that the youtube player is not keyboard accessible and I haven't been able to find one that lets me access the "cc" link to show the captions.

If I enter this movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRS8MkLhQmM&;cc=1

into the easy youtube player
http://icant.co.uk/easy-youtube/

I can't get at the captions. If I embed the youtube player I can use my mouse to click on the captions but I can't tab to the player.

Is there a keyboard accessible player out there that can be embedded in a page that has access to captions?

thanks!
Sandy

From: E.J. Zufelt
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 9:33AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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I haven't tested and am just shooting out an idea.

Would it be possible to embed the YouTube player and then to add some links via Javascript to control the player (either above or below the player)? This would result in duplication of controls, but would also mean that you have keyboard accessible controls and access to captions.


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On 2011-08-26, at 11:23 AM, Bourne, Sarah (ITD) wrote:

> Sandy,
>
> The last I heard, the problem is that YouTube does not offer access to closed captioning features through its API. So, if you build an improved interface for keyboard operation, you lose the captions.
>
> Very frustrating!
>
> sb
>
> Sarah E. Bourne
> Director of Assistive Technology &
> Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
> Information Technology Division
> Commonwealth of Massachusetts
> 1 Ashburton Pl. rm 1601 Boston MA 02108
> 617-626-4502 fax 617-626-4516
> http://twitter.com/sarahebourne
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> http://www.mass.gov/itd
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Sandy
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:17 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: [WebAIM] accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
>
>
> hey all,
>
> I am working on a site which will be hosting a bunch of youtube movies.
> They will be captioned and transcribed.
>
> The problem is that the youtube player is not keyboard accessible and I haven't been able to find one that lets me access the "cc" link to show the captions.
>
> If I enter this movie
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRS8MkLhQmM&;cc=1
>
> into the easy youtube player
> http://icant.co.uk/easy-youtube/
>
> I can't get at the captions. If I embed the youtube player I can use my mouse to click on the captions but I can't tab to the player.
>
> Is there a keyboard accessible player out there that can be embedded in a page that has access to captions?
>
> thanks!
> Sandy
>

From: Sandy
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 9:39AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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> The last I heard, the problem is that YouTube does not offer access
> to closed captioning features through its API. So, if you build an
> improved interface for keyboard operation, you lose the captions.
>
> Very frustrating!

frustrating indeed. Thanks Sarah.

Sandy

From: Donald Evans
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 9:45AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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You should be able to set the captions to play by default, but as you
suggest, you can not turn them on or off from the API provided.

Check out the JWPlayer. It's pretty good and will play YouTube videos.
http://www.longtailvideo.com/players

The most accessible one I have found is the JWPlayer Controller. (a dojo
wrapper around the JWPlayer)
http://wac.osu.edu/examples/jwpc/

But both these are restricted by the API into YouTube and can not control
the CC button.



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Bourne, Sarah (ITD) <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Sandy,
>
> The last I heard, the problem is that YouTube does not offer access to
> closed captioning features through its API. So, if you build an improved
> interface for keyboard operation, you lose the captions.
>
> Very frustrating!
>
> sb
>
> Sarah E. Bourne
> Director of Assistive Technology &
> Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
> Information Technology Division
> Commonwealth of Massachusetts
> 1 Ashburton Pl. rm 1601 Boston MA 02108
> 617-626-4502 fax 617-626-4516
> http://twitter.com/sarahebourne
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> http://www.mass.gov/itd
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto:
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Sandy
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:17 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: [WebAIM] accessible youtube player that has a "show captions"
> option
>
>
> hey all,
>
> I am working on a site which will be hosting a bunch of youtube movies.
> They will be captioned and transcribed.
>
> The problem is that the youtube player is not keyboard accessible and I
> haven't been able to find one that lets me access the "cc" link to show the
> captions.
>
> If I enter this movie
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRS8MkLhQmM&;cc=1
>
> into the easy youtube player
> http://icant.co.uk/easy-youtube/
>
> I can't get at the captions. If I embed the youtube player I can use my
> mouse to click on the captions but I can't tab to the player.
>
> Is there a keyboard accessible player out there that can be embedded in a
> page that has access to captions?
>
> thanks!
> Sandy
>

From: Sandy
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 9:51AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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> in this context, is it appropriate for the captions to show to
> all viewers? Because you can force captions to be on any YouTube
> video, either via internal settings or via URL:
>
> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/force-subtitles-embedded-youtube-video/


ah now, that might be the best way out of this pickle ... it's a bit
unsubtle, but sometimes hitting it with a hammer is the way to go.

I'll talk to the client.

best regards,
Sandy

From: Vincent Young
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 9:57AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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Sandy, We will be coming out with a new version of the jwplayer controller
in the coming weeks. We will be adding some more accessibility features
including the ability to easily implement youtube videos.
On Aug 26, 2011 11:47 AM, "Sandy" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You should be able to set the captions to play by default, but as you
>> suggest, you can not turn them on or off from the API provided.
>>
>> Check out the JWPlayer. It's pretty good and will play YouTube videos.
>> http://www.longtailvideo.com/players
>>
>> The most accessible one I have found is the JWPlayer Controller. (a dojo
>> wrapper around the JWPlayer)
>> http://wac.osu.edu/examples/jwpc/
>>
>> But both these are restricted by the API into YouTube and can not control
>> the CC button.
>
>
> Donald, thanks!
>

From: Sandy
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 10:03AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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Vincent, this sounds really promising.
Will users be able to tab to controls and turn captioning on and off?

thanks!
Sandy


> Sandy, We will be coming out with a new version of the jwplayer
> controller in the coming weeks. We will be adding some more
> accessibility features including the ability to easily implement youtube
> videos.


> >> You should be able to set the captions to play by default, but as you
> >> suggest, you can not turn them on or off from the API provided.
> >>
> >> Check out the JWPlayer. It's pretty good and will play YouTube videos.
> >> http://www.longtailvideo.com/players

From: Sandy
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 10:09AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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> You should be able to set the captions to play by default, but as you
> suggest, you can not turn them on or off from the API provided.
>
> Check out the JWPlayer. It's pretty good and will play YouTube videos.
> http://www.longtailvideo.com/players
>
> The most accessible one I have found is the JWPlayer Controller. (a dojo
> wrapper around the JWPlayer)
> http://wac.osu.edu/examples/jwpc/
>
> But both these are restricted by the API into YouTube and can not control
> the CC button.


Donald, thanks!

From: Rick Hill
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 10:15AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions"option
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And there are bunches of links on the Web about this topic:

http://www.washington.edu/doit/Video/prefs.php#comparison
http://wac.osu.edu/examples/jwpc/ (look at the help button for keyboard
controls)
http://wac.osu.edu/
http://terrillthompson.com/blog/40
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/JwPlayer.aspx (view with styles disabled for
info)
http://websiteaccessibility.donaldevans.com/2011/08/03/jw-player-test-bed/


­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­
Rick Hill, Web CMS Administrator
University Communications, UC Davis




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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] accessible youtube player that has a "show
captions"option

Sandy, We will be coming out with a new version of the jwplayer controller
in the coming weeks. We will be adding some more accessibility features
including the ability to easily implement youtube videos.
On Aug 26, 2011 11:47 AM, "Sandy" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> You should be able to set the captions to play by default, but as you
>> suggest, you can not turn them on or off from the API provided.
>>
>> Check out the JWPlayer. It's pretty good and will play YouTube videos.
>> http://www.longtailvideo.com/players
>>
>> The most accessible one I have found is the JWPlayer Controller. (a dojo
>> wrapper around the JWPlayer)
>> http://wac.osu.edu/examples/jwpc/
>>
>> But both these are restricted by the API into YouTube and can not
>>control
>> the CC button.
>
>
> Donald, thanks!
>

From: Sandy
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 10:21AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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> Would it be possible to embed the YouTube player and then to add some
> links via Javascript to control the player (either above or below the
> player)? This would result in duplication of controls, but would also
> mean that you have keyboard accessible controls and access to captions.

Everett, it sounds like a great idea, maybe even possible if I can get
some help ...

thanks!
Sandy

From: deborah.kaplan@suberic.net
Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 10:27AM
Subject: Re: accessible youtube player that has a "show captions" option
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in this context, is it appropriate for the captions to show to
all viewers? Because you can force captions to be on any YouTube
video, either via internal settings or via URL:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/force-subtitles-embedded-youtube-video/

-Deborah