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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Wed, Jun 20 2012 2:49PM
Subject: Recording FireEyes scripts as a scren reader user, is that possible?
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Good afternoon gang.

I had a serious back and sholder sprain, so I spent the last few days
suffering, eting Motrin and tylanol in super large dozes between trips
to hospitals and physiotherapists , and hoping to get better.
Fortunately it appears that wish is finally coming true.
One of my first tasks next week is to play around with FireEyes.
One thing FireEyes offers that I can't find elsewhere is to record a
script (series of steps) that produces a page.
This could be either logging in to a website, or typing in a
particular search term to produce a results page.
You press "record" then you execute a series of steps to produce a
page, and FireEyes records all your actions to be reproduced later.

I had a training sesssion doing this (and other FireEyes-related
things) with one of the Deque developers, but we quickly ran into a
snag.
It appears that it is impossible to use screen reader hot keys to
reproduce the series of steps for the scripts.
For instance, with Jaws I'd press "e" to get to an edit field, then
enter to go into forms mode. Then I type in a search term and press
tab to find a "search" button and then enter again to produce the
search results page.
According to what I was told at Deque, these scripts do not work with
the screen reader buffer, but directly with the browser (so the "e"
key will not dump me in the next edit field).
It sounds like the only other alternative to this would be to use tab
key to find the field, but since the FireEyes script execution works
in real time, it could take a very long time to reproduce the
function.
Has anyone played around with this scripting as a blind accessibility expet?
What work arounds did you find to get this working (other than just
asking some poor sighted soul to create the script for you in the
first place)?
Cheers
-B

From: Tony Olivero
Date: Wed, Jun 20 2012 2:52PM
Subject: Re: Recording FireEyes scripts as a scren reader user, is that possible?
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Birkir,

Yes, it is possible. I've done it several times. While it's true that
screenreader hotkeys don't pass through to the browser the focus commands
that get trigged by those actions should. Feel free to contact me off list
and we can talk it through further.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 15:50
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] Recording FireEyes scripts as a scren reader user, is that
possible?

Good afternoon gang.

I had a serious back and sholder sprain, so I spent the last few days
suffering, eting Motrin and tylanol in super large dozes between trips
to hospitals and physiotherapists , and hoping to get better.
Fortunately it appears that wish is finally coming true.
One of my first tasks next week is to play around with FireEyes.
One thing FireEyes offers that I can't find elsewhere is to record a
script (series of steps) that produces a page.
This could be either logging in to a website, or typing in a
particular search term to produce a results page.
You press "record" then you execute a series of steps to produce a
page, and FireEyes records all your actions to be reproduced later.

I had a training sesssion doing this (and other FireEyes-related
things) with one of the Deque developers, but we quickly ran into a
snag.
It appears that it is impossible to use screen reader hot keys to
reproduce the series of steps for the scripts.
For instance, with Jaws I'd press "e" to get to an edit field, then
enter to go into forms mode. Then I type in a search term and press
tab to find a "search" button and then enter again to produce the
search results page.
According to what I was told at Deque, these scripts do not work with
the screen reader buffer, but directly with the browser (so the "e"
key will not dump me in the next edit field).
It sounds like the only other alternative to this would be to use tab
key to find the field, but since the FireEyes script execution works
in real time, it could take a very long time to reproduce the
function.
Has anyone played around with this scripting as a blind accessibility expet?
What work arounds did you find to get this working (other than just
asking some poor sighted soul to create the script for you in the
first place)?
Cheers
-B

From: Lucy Greco
Date: Wed, Jun 20 2012 2:56PM
Subject: Re: Recording FireEyes scripts as a screen reader user, is that possible?
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Hello:
Please share on the list as I am starting a new job as a web access
reviewer and will need to do the same thing. Thanks in advance Lucy

Lucia Greco
Web accessibility analyst
University of California Berkeley
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu


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[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Tony Olivero
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:53 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Recording FireEyes scripts as a scren reader user, is
that possible?

Birkir,

Yes, it is possible. I've done it several times. While it's true that
screenreader hotkeys don't pass through to the browser the focus commands
that get trigged by those actions should. Feel free to contact me off list
and we can talk it through further.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 15:50
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] Recording FireEyes scripts as a scren reader user, is that
possible?

Good afternoon gang.

I had a serious back and sholder sprain, so I spent the last few days
suffering, eting Motrin and tylanol in super large dozes between trips
to hospitals and physiotherapists , and hoping to get better.
Fortunately it appears that wish is finally coming true.
One of my first tasks next week is to play around with FireEyes.
One thing FireEyes offers that I can't find elsewhere is to record a
script (series of steps) that produces a page.
This could be either logging in to a website, or typing in a
particular search term to produce a results page.
You press "record" then you execute a series of steps to produce a
page, and FireEyes records all your actions to be reproduced later.

I had a training sesssion doing this (and other FireEyes-related
things) with one of the Deque developers, but we quickly ran into a
snag.
It appears that it is impossible to use screen reader hot keys to
reproduce the series of steps for the scripts.
For instance, with Jaws I'd press "e" to get to an edit field, then
enter to go into forms mode. Then I type in a search term and press
tab to find a "search" button and then enter again to produce the
search results page.
According to what I was told at Deque, these scripts do not work with
the screen reader buffer, but directly with the browser (so the "e"
key will not dump me in the next edit field).
It sounds like the only other alternative to this would be to use tab
key to find the field, but since the FireEyes script execution works
in real time, it could take a very long time to reproduce the
function.
Has anyone played around with this scripting as a blind accessibility expet?
What work arounds did you find to get this working (other than just
asking some poor sighted soul to create the script for you in the
first place)?
Cheers
-B

From: Tony Olivero
Date: Wed, Jun 20 2012 2:58PM
Subject: Re: Recording FireEyes scripts as a screen reader user, is that possible?
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Sure thing. Let me double check a few things and actually write something up
that I can post.

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From: Lucy Greco [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 15:57
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Recording FireEyes scripts as a screen reader user, is
that possible?

Hello:
Please share on the list as I am starting a new job as a web access
reviewer and will need to do the same thing. Thanks in advance Lucy

Lucia Greco
Web accessibility analyst
University of California Berkeley
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Tony Olivero
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:53 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Recording FireEyes scripts as a scren reader user, is
that possible?

Birkir,

Yes, it is possible. I've done it several times. While it's true that
screenreader hotkeys don't pass through to the browser the focus commands
that get trigged by those actions should. Feel free to contact me off list
and we can talk it through further.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 15:50
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] Recording FireEyes scripts as a scren reader user, is that
possible?

Good afternoon gang.

I had a serious back and sholder sprain, so I spent the last few days
suffering, eting Motrin and tylanol in super large dozes between trips
to hospitals and physiotherapists , and hoping to get better.
Fortunately it appears that wish is finally coming true.
One of my first tasks next week is to play around with FireEyes.
One thing FireEyes offers that I can't find elsewhere is to record a
script (series of steps) that produces a page.
This could be either logging in to a website, or typing in a
particular search term to produce a results page.
You press "record" then you execute a series of steps to produce a
page, and FireEyes records all your actions to be reproduced later.

I had a training sesssion doing this (and other FireEyes-related
things) with one of the Deque developers, but we quickly ran into a
snag.
It appears that it is impossible to use screen reader hot keys to
reproduce the series of steps for the scripts.
For instance, with Jaws I'd press "e" to get to an edit field, then
enter to go into forms mode. Then I type in a search term and press
tab to find a "search" button and then enter again to produce the
search results page.
According to what I was told at Deque, these scripts do not work with
the screen reader buffer, but directly with the browser (so the "e"
key will not dump me in the next edit field).
It sounds like the only other alternative to this would be to use tab
key to find the field, but since the FireEyes script execution works
in real time, it could take a very long time to reproduce the
function.
Has anyone played around with this scripting as a blind accessibility expet?
What work arounds did you find to get this working (other than just
asking some poor sighted soul to create the script for you in the
first place)?
Cheers
-B