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From: Elisa Campbell
Date: Tue, Jun 03 2014 11:13AM
Subject: figures in wrong place
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Hi,
I have several Word 2010 documents to convert to PDF. While the resulting PDFs look OK, it turns out, for readers (such as NVDA) and checkers (such as pdfGoHTML) the figures are all put at the beginning, before any text. The figures are screen captures from Word, converted into JPGs.
Does this happen to other people? Is there a solution other than individually moving each figure with Acrobat?

Thanks,

Elisa Campbell
Office of Information Technologies
University of Massachusetts Amherst

From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Tue, Jun 03 2014 11:19AM
Subject: Re: figures in wrong place
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2701086

Short answer - save files as .doc instead of .docx before publishing and the figures will fall into the right places.
AWK

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Subject: [WebAIM] figures in wrong place

Hi,
I have several Word 2010 documents to convert to PDF. While the resulting PDFs look OK, it turns out, for readers (such as NVDA) and checkers (such as pdfGoHTML) the figures are all put at the beginning, before any text. The figures are screen captures from Word, converted into JPGs.
Does this happen to other people? Is there a solution other than individually moving each figure with Acrobat?

Thanks,

Elisa Campbell
Office of Information Technologies
University of Massachusetts Amherst

From: Karlen Communications
Date: Tue, Jun 03 2014 11:30AM
Subject: Re: figures in wrong place
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It is a known bug that started with Office 2007 and acrobat 9 (I
think)/might have been Acrobat X. It is fixed in Office 2013 with Acrobat XI
or the Microsoft save as PDF tool. There are two solutions for earlier
versions of Office/Acrobat: manually move the figures to their correct place
in the Tags Tree or, if you've used captions with the images, Artifact the
images and the screen readers will still read the captions.

Cheers, Karen

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Subject: [WebAIM] figures in wrong place

Hi,
I have several Word 2010 documents to convert to PDF. While the resulting
PDFs look OK, it turns out, for readers (such as NVDA) and checkers (such
as pdfGoHTML) the figures are all put at the beginning, before any text. The
figures are screen captures from Word, converted into JPGs.
Does this happen to other people? Is there a solution other than
individually moving each figure with Acrobat?

Thanks,

Elisa Campbell
Office of Information Technologies
University of Massachusetts Amherst

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From: Ryan E. Benson
Date: Tue, Jun 03 2014 4:34PM
Subject: Re: figures in wrong place
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I haven't heard this one before. Another solution is to use the inline with
text alignment setting.

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Ryan E. Benson


On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2701086
>
> Short answer - save files as .doc instead of .docx before publishing and
> the figures will fall into the right places.
> AWK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto:
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Elisa Campbell
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:14 PM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Cc: Elisa Campbell
> Subject: [WebAIM] figures in wrong place
>
> Hi,
> I have several Word 2010 documents to convert to PDF. While the resulting
> PDFs look OK, it turns out, for readers (such as NVDA) and checkers (such
> as pdfGoHTML) the figures are all put at the beginning, before any text.
> The figures are screen captures from Word, converted into JPGs.
> Does this happen to other people? Is there a solution other than
> individually moving each figure with Acrobat?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Elisa Campbell
> Office of Information Technologies
> University of Massachusetts Amherst
>
> > > messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > >

From: Chagnon | PubCom
Date: Wed, Jun 04 2014 6:45PM
Subject: Re: figures in wrong place
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Using .doc vs .docx is a huge drawback. Saving Word files as .doc rather
than .docx can affect many features and automated processes used by
institutions.

I know Word's XML schema embedded into Word 2007 and 2013 is the most
ridiculous XML coding on the planet and has many other known bugs, but MS
should have corrected the major problems by now. After all, it's been 7
years since the base format was released.

Does anyone know if this is still a problem in Word 2013, that they figure
tags are ganged at the top of the tag tree, reading order, etc.?

--BJC
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On Behalf Of Andrew Kirkpatrick

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2701086

Short answer - save files as .doc instead of .docx before publishing and the
figures will fall into the right places.
AWK

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Elisa Campbell

Hi,
I have several Word 2010 documents to convert to PDF. While the resulting
PDFs look OK, it turns out, for readers (such as NVDA) and checkers (such
as pdfGoHTML) the figures are all put at the beginning, before any text. The
figures are screen captures from Word, converted into JPGs.
Does this happen to other people? Is there a solution other than
individually moving each figure with Acrobat?

From: Karlen Communications
Date: Thu, Jun 05 2014 4:08AM
Subject: Re: figures in wrong place
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As always, I forward any bugs and things not working correctly on to
Microsoft as an MVP for Word. I send issues for any Microsoft product.

This issue/bug is fixed in Word 2013. Thankfully as it was a pain!

You can send specific issues/bugs to me off-list and I'll send them along.
The more voices we have on a problem, the better.

Cheers, Karen

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Sent: June 4, 2014 8:45 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] figures in wrong place

Using .doc vs .docx is a huge drawback. Saving Word files as .doc rather
than .docx can affect many features and automated processes used by
institutions.

I know Word's XML schema embedded into Word 2007 and 2013 is the most
ridiculous XML coding on the planet and has many other known bugs, but MS
should have corrected the major problems by now. After all, it's been 7
years since the base format was released.

Does anyone know if this is still a problem in Word 2013, that they figure
tags are ganged at the top of the tag tree, reading order, etc.?

--BJC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
www.PubCom.com - Trainers, Consultants, Designers, Developers.
Print, Web, Acrobat, XML, eBooks, and U.S. Federal Section 508
Accessibility.
Taka a Sec. 508 Class in 2014 - www.Pubcom.com/classes

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Andrew Kirkpatrick

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2701086

Short answer - save files as .doc instead of .docx before publishing and the
figures will fall into the right places.
AWK

-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
On Behalf Of Elisa Campbell

Hi,
I have several Word 2010 documents to convert to PDF. While the resulting
PDFs look OK, it turns out, for readers (such as NVDA) and checkers (such
as pdfGoHTML) the figures are all put at the beginning, before any text. The
figures are screen captures from Word, converted into JPGs.
Does this happen to other people? Is there a solution other than
individually moving each figure with Acrobat?


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