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From: Elizabeth Pyatt
Date: Tue, Feb 09 2016 9:49AM
Subject: Accessibility Testing Tools that Work on a Screen Reader?
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Hello:
I'm curious if anyone knows of accessibility testing tools that can be used by someone on a screen reader. I realize that many consider a screen reader itself to be a testing tool, but someone may want access to reports, particularly reports for multiple pages on a site.
Thanks
Elizabeth
Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
Instructional Designer
Teaching and Learning with Technology
Penn State University
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From: Lucy Greco
Date: Tue, Feb 09 2016 11:53AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Testing Tools that Work on a Screen Reader?
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hello:
any of the tools that creat reports can be used by a screen reader. but
its the reel guts of a testing tool that are the problems i.e. getting to
the sorse code to understand why it does not work is more inportent then
reading the report come to our CSUN talk at 10 on thursday to here what
other blind testers think lucy
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Elizabeth Pyatt < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I'm curious if anyone knows of accessibility testing tools that can be
> used by someone on a screen reader. I realize that many consider a screen
> reader itself to be a testing tool, but someone may want access to reports,
> particularly reports for multiple pages on a site.
>
> Thanks
> Elizabeth
>
> Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
> Instructional Designer
> Teaching and Learning with Technology
> Penn State University
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = , (814) 865-0805 or (814) 865-2030 (Main Office)
>
> 210 Rider Building (formerly Rider II)
> 227 W. Beaver Avenue
> State College, PA 16801-4819
> http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/psu
> http://tlt.psu.edu
>
> > > > >
From: Jared Smith
Date: Tue, Feb 09 2016 12:00PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Testing Tools that Work on a Screen Reader?
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We've designed the WAVE online tool (http://wave.webaim.org/) to be
highly accessible. The Chrome extension is also quite usable in
Windows screen readers and VoiceOver (a few minor bugs are being
patched now). While the interface has some complexities and requires
some orientation for all users, we believe it is accessible and have
received very positive feedback from screen reader users. And we're
very open to feedback/recommendations and are regularly making
improvements to make it better.
The biggest caveat with the WAVE tool is that because it injects icons
into the original page, it does not somehow make that page content
more accessible. In other words, while significant accessibility
issues on the page will be identified (both in the sidebar and in the
page itself), the in-page errors may still introduce problems for
screen reader users trying to navigate that page.
Jared Smith
WebAIM.org
From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Tue, Feb 09 2016 3:23PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Testing Tools that Work on a Screen Reader?
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> I'm curious if anyone knows of accessibility testing tools that can be used by someone on a screen reader. I realize that many consider a screen reader
SSB's AMP has an extensive UI for displaying reports and compliance metrics across pages and the UI is accessible with assistive technology including screen readers. Our toolbars are accessible as well -- but as some others have pointed out there are some challenges with testing certain aspects of accessibility in consistent ways without vision. As we employ a significant number of people with disabilities this is an important issue that we are aware of and striving to improve upon for tests that cannot be automated. I'd like to see a set of manual test steps that were screen reader agnostic and provided reliable consistent results. I'd imagine that some tools, favlets, or plug-ins might be needed in such an endeavor.
Jonathan
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Hello:
I'm curious if anyone knows of accessibility testing tools that can be used by someone on a screen reader. I realize that many consider a screen reader itself to be a testing tool, but someone may want access to reports, particularly reports for multiple pages on a site.
Thanks
Elizabeth
Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
Instructional Designer
Teaching and Learning with Technology
Penn State University
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = , (814) 865-0805 or (814) 865-2030 (Main Office)
210 Rider Building (formerly Rider II)
227 W. Beaver Avenue
State College, PA 16801-4819
http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/psu
http://tlt.psu.edu
From: Sean Murphy
Date: Wed, Feb 10 2016 2:04AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Testing Tools that Work on a Screen Reader?
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Lucy,
As I am not going to CSun this year. Let us know if the session gets recorded and how we can grab the recording. As this would be a valuable resource for new testers and even existing testers. As this is one area of real challenge for screen reader users.
Sean
> On 10 Feb 2016, at 5:53 am, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> hello:
> any of the tools that creat reports can be used by a screen reader. but
> its the reel guts of a testing tool that are the problems i.e. getting to
> the sorse code to understand why it does not work is more inportent then
> reading the report come to our CSUN talk at 10 on thursday to here what
> other blind testers think lucy
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Accessibility Evangelist
> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Elizabeth Pyatt < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> I'm curious if anyone knows of accessibility testing tools that can be
>> used by someone on a screen reader. I realize that many consider a screen
>> reader itself to be a testing tool, but someone may want access to reports,
>> particularly reports for multiple pages on a site.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
>> Instructional Designer
>> Teaching and Learning with Technology
>> Penn State University
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = , (814) 865-0805 or (814) 865-2030 (Main Office)
>>
>> 210 Rider Building (formerly Rider II)
>> 227 W. Beaver Avenue
>> State College, PA 16801-4819
>> http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/psu
>> http://tlt.psu.edu
>>
>> >> >> >> >>
> > > >
From: Lucy Greco
Date: Wed, Feb 10 2016 1:54PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Testing Tools that Work on a Screen Reader?
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will do we may try and record our selves but no promises yet. we will have
product coming out of the event though. and i will share that here lucy
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Sean Murphy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> Lucy,
>
> As I am not going to CSun this year. Let us know if the session gets
> recorded and how we can grab the recording. As this would be a valuable
> resource for new testers and even existing testers. As this is one area of
> real challenge for screen reader users.
>
> Sean
> > On 10 Feb 2016, at 5:53 am, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > hello:
> > any of the tools that creat reports can be used by a screen reader. but
> > its the reel guts of a testing tool that are the problems i.e. getting to
> > the sorse code to understand why it does not work is more inportent then
> > reading the report come to our CSUN talk at 10 on thursday to here what
> > other blind testers think lucy
> >
> > Lucia Greco
> > Web Accessibility Evangelist
> > IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
> > University of California, Berkeley
> > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> > Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Elizabeth Pyatt < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello:
> >>
> >> I'm curious if anyone knows of accessibility testing tools that can be
> >> used by someone on a screen reader. I realize that many consider a
> screen
> >> reader itself to be a testing tool, but someone may want access to
> reports,
> >> particularly reports for multiple pages on a site.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Elizabeth
> >>
> >> Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
> >> Instructional Designer
> >> Teaching and Learning with Technology
> >> Penn State University
> >> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = , (814) 865-0805 or (814) 865-2030 (Main Office)
> >>
> >> 210 Rider Building (formerly Rider II)
> >> 227 W. Beaver Avenue
> >> State College, PA 16801-4819
> >> http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/psu
> >> http://tlt.psu.edu
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
From: Maxability Accessibility for all
Date: Wed, Feb 10 2016 7:08PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Testing Tools that Work on a Screen Reader?
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Axe is one robust accessibility auditing tool. The tool is accessible with
screen readers.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/axe-devtools/
Should you need more information on the tool, I can point to the right
person who can provide you with more details.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> will do we may try and record our selves but no promises yet. we will have
> product coming out of the event though. and i will share that here lucy
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Accessibility Evangelist
> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Sean Murphy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Lucy,
> >
> > As I am not going to CSun this year. Let us know if the session gets
> > recorded and how we can grab the recording. As this would be a valuable
> > resource for new testers and even existing testers. As this is one area
> of
> > real challenge for screen reader users.
> >
> > Sean
> > > On 10 Feb 2016, at 5:53 am, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > > hello:
> > > any of the tools that creat reports can be used by a screen reader.
> but
> > > its the reel guts of a testing tool that are the problems i.e. getting
> to
> > > the sorse code to understand why it does not work is more inportent
> then
> > > reading the report come to our CSUN talk at 10 on thursday to here
> what
> > > other blind testers think lucy
> > >
> > > Lucia Greco
> > > Web Accessibility Evangelist
> > > IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
> > > University of California, Berkeley
> > > (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> > > http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> > > Follow me on twitter @accessaces
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Elizabeth Pyatt < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello:
> > >>
> > >> I'm curious if anyone knows of accessibility testing tools that can be
> > >> used by someone on a screen reader. I realize that many consider a
> > screen
> > >> reader itself to be a testing tool, but someone may want access to
> > reports,
> > >> particularly reports for multiple pages on a site.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Elizabeth
> > >>
> > >> Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
> > >> Instructional Designer
> > >> Teaching and Learning with Technology
> > >> Penn State University
> > >> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = , (814) 865-0805 or (814) 865-2030 (Main Office)
> > >>
> > >> 210 Rider Building (formerly Rider II)
> > >> 227 W. Beaver Avenue
> > >> State College, PA 16801-4819
> > >> http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/psu
> > >> http://tlt.psu.edu
> > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
From: Guy Hickling
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2016 3:03PM
Subject: Re: Junior Accessibility Tester job in London
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I've just spotted a vacancy going for a junior or graduate test analyst in
London, primarily involving Accessibility, the WCAG, and assistive
technology. They are promising good training to be become experienced in
the field, so this looks like an excellent chance for anyone wanting to get
into Web Accessibility on the ground floor or to improve their experience.
The link is
http://www.jobserve.com/gb/en/JobLanding.aspx?jidC9655271562D4F&src^0E6ADF4E4799A3&utm_source 001&utm_medium=Email2014&utm_campaign=JobsByEmailGBR20
(via a recruitment agency).
Regards,
Guy Hickling
From: Guy Hickling
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2016 3:48PM
Subject: Re: Junior Accessibility Tester job in London
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Sorry, that long URL for the accessibility testing role doesn't seem to
have got through the emailing systems correctly. It left my Gmail account
ok but got clobbered along the way! Here it is as plain text to cut and
paste into a browser:
www.jobserve.com/gb/en/JobLanding.aspx?jidC9655271562D4F&src^0E6ADF4E4799A3&utm_source 001&utm_medium=Email2014&utm_campaign=JobsByEmailGBR20
Regards,
Guy Hickling
From: Guy Hickling
Date: Sat, Feb 20 2016 5:40PM
Subject: Re: Junior Accessibility Tester job in London
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And that didn't work so well either, did it! Ok, so the last part of that
URL, the query string, should be:
?jidC9655271562D4F&src^0E6ADF4E4799A3&utm_source 001&utm_medium=Email2014&utm_campaign=JobsByEmailGBR20
I hope that gets through correctly now!
Regards,
Gu
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From: Ramakrishnan Subramanian
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2016 10:04AM
Subject: Re: Automated accessibility testing by the blind testers?
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Dear members,
I would like to know what are the other testing like automated ones,
apart from the screen reader testing done by totally blind
accessibility testers.
If automated testing can be done by the blind testers, how far those
tools are accessible for the screen reader?
Thanks,
Ramakrishnan
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2016 10:14AM
Subject: Re: Automated accessibility testing by the blind testers?
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Hi
Good questions.
We (me and Lucy Greco) are collecting this info for a CSUN presentation.
The aim is to make it available as an online resource after CSUN.
I have not chimed in on this discussion much on this list, because I
have 4 presentations and I had to prioritize them with my workload,
but I am working on guides for some of the tools I use as well as
reaching out to folks that I know have techniques and tools.
So if anybody on here has not been contacted by me, but wants to
contribute, feel free to contact me off-list.
I will be sure to post an announcement to WebAIM once we have
something ready, but I would expect that to be around or a little bit
after CSUN.
Cheers
-Birkir
On 2/22/16, Ramakrishnan Subramanian < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Dear members,
>
> I would like to know what are the other testing like automated ones,
> apart from the screen reader testing done by totally blind
> accessibility testers.
> If automated testing can be done by the blind testers, how far those
> tools are accessible for the screen reader?
>
> Thanks,
> Ramakrishnan
> > > > >
--
Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
From: Maxability Accessibility for all
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2016 7:29PM
Subject: Re: Automated accessibility testing by the blind testers?
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Sure Birkir.
Hi RamaKrishnan,
There are number of tools available that helps a visually challenged
accessibility consultant to work on. Axe, FireEyes, Wave add-ons for
Firefox, wave.webaim.org online tool are the one's can that come to mind
immediately.
You can contact me off-list if you need some assistance around that area.
My signature have the details to reach-out to me.
Thanks & Regards
Rakesh
Mobile : 9948243336: E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
website: www.maxability.co.in
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi
> Good questions.
> We (me and Lucy Greco) are collecting this info for a CSUN presentation.
> The aim is to make it available as an online resource after CSUN.
> I have not chimed in on this discussion much on this list, because I
> have 4 presentations and I had to prioritize them with my workload,
> but I am working on guides for some of the tools I use as well as
> reaching out to folks that I know have techniques and tools.
> So if anybody on here has not been contacted by me, but wants to
> contribute, feel free to contact me off-list.
> I will be sure to post an announcement to WebAIM once we have
> something ready, but I would expect that to be around or a little bit
> after CSUN.
> Cheers
> -Birkir
>
>
>
> On 2/22/16, Ramakrishnan Subramanian < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Dear members,
> >
> > I would like to know what are the other testing like automated ones,
> > apart from the screen reader testing done by totally blind
> > accessibility testers.
> > If automated testing can be done by the blind testers, how far those
> > tools are accessible for the screen reader?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ramakrishnan
> > > > > > > > > >
>
>
> --
> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > > > >