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From: Mike Bicknell
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 11:53AM
Subject: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Hello -

Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability groups for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently, iOS app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would be helpful.

Thanks,
Mike

Mike Bicknell
Digital Research and Development Coordinator
Washington State School for the Blind
Office: 360-947-3331
Main: 360-947-3300
Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
WSSB Distance Learning: http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder site): http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor

From: Kelly Lupo
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 1:13PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a website/mobile
app development company and is working with at least one client in the
accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I have
some idea of what to tell him?

Kelly

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Hello -
>
> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability groups
> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently, iOS
> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would be
> helpful.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Mike Bicknell
> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
> Washington State School for the Blind
> Office: 360-947-3331
> Main: 360-947-3300
> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> WSSB Distance Learning:
> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder site):
> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
>
> > > > >

From: Mike Bicknell
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 1:43PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Hi Kelly,

Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in creating
the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will be
used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and deaf-blindness.
Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so accessible
and not so user-friendly.

A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of time
in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y and
UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine. Who
knows what will be needed in the future?)

I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding iOS
accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.

Many thanks,
Mike



On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

>I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a website/mobile
>app development company and is working with at least one client in the
>accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I have
>some idea of what to tell him?
>
>Kelly
>
>On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>wrote:
>
>> Hello -
>>
>> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability groups
>> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently, iOS
>> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would be
>> helpful.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>> Mike Bicknell
>> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
>> Washington State School for the Blind
>> Office: 360-947-3331
>> Main: 360-947-3300
>> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> WSSB Distance Learning:
>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
>> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
>> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder site):
>> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>

From: Mike Barlow
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 2:05PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put together.

Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread, but
while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
Android development?

*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME

Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.784.3047
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Hi Kelly,
>
> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in creating
> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will be
> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and deaf-blindness.
> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so accessible
> and not so user-friendly.
>
> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of time
> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y and
> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine. Who
> knows what will be needed in the future?)
>
> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding iOS
> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
>
> Many thanks,
> Mike
>
>
>
> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> >I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a website/mobile
> >app development company and is working with at least one client in the
> >accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I have
> >some idea of what to tell him?
> >
> >Kelly
> >
> >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hello -
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability groups
> >> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently, iOS
> >> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would be
> >> helpful.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Mike Bicknell
> >> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
> >> Washington State School for the Blind
> >> Office: 360-947-3331
> >> Main: 360-947-3300
> >> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> WSSB Distance Learning:
> >> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
> >> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
> >> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder site):
> >> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
> >>
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >

From: Mike Bicknell
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 2:25PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Hi Mike,

Yes, I'm happy to share the resources. I'll post the info for everyone.
Maybe others are interested or can point out a deficiency in my research.
Below is what I sent to our group. If you'd prefer a Word or Pages doc
with headings and such, let me know.

"Xcode Accessibility Debugger:

This feature is a developer-facing one, but I'm including it here because
it's so cool. I first learned about it while listening to episode 124 of
John Gruber's podcast, The Talk Show
<http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2015/06/20/ep-124>;, during which
Gruber and guest Guy English talk briefly about Apple's efforts in
supporting accessibility.

With the new Accessibility Debugger in Xcode, developers are now able to
debug, in real time, problems with their app's accessibility. For example,
a developer using VoiceOver can now make sure that text labels and images
in their app work properly with VoiceOver. If problems are found,
developers can fix them right away. (A similar, but not new, feature is
Xcode's Accessibility Inspector, which also helps in gauging app
accessibility.)
While bugs are inevitable and beta testers valuable, the addition of the
accessibility debugger is huge insofar that Apple is giving developers
another tool with which to best support accessibility. In the grand
scheme, such a tool only benefits users, as more apps will be open (read:
accessible) to those with special needs." (Article from the iMore site:
http://www.imore.com/what-you-need-know-about-accessibility-ios-9)

Note: Xcode is the IDE (Integrated Development Environment) where the
developers can work on their iOS apps. It kind of functions how Adobe
Dreamweaver operates for web development. Anyway. So, programmers can use
the Xcode IDE to write an iOS app using Swift or Objective C languages. I
recently broke this process down for one of our teachers and a student,
who is interested in creating apps. If you're interested I can send that
along too.

For iOS developers

* Apple resources for developers and iOS accessibility:
https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
* Apple accessibility for developers:
https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/
* Apple, more for developers:
https://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/developer/
* A blog post from 2012 on testing iOS apps for accessibility:
http://www.rosiesherry.com/2012/09/02/ios-accessibility-a-useful-guide-for-
testing/
* AppleVis (likely a bit older):
http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers
* AppleVis for programming iOS:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/programming-ios
* TechCrunch article on the WWDC:
http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/14/wwdc-puts-accessibility-on-the-radar-for-d
evelopers/
* CSU PD for Accessible Tech (2012?):
http://teachingcommons.cdl.edu/access/resources/MobileDeveloperResources.sh
tml
* Universal Mind blog post:
http://www.universalmind.com/blog/user-experience/apps-for-everyone-part-2-
strategies-for-accessibility-in-ios/
* A course from SSB BART Group on "iOS Mobile Accessibility for
Developers":
http://info.ssbbartgroup.com/MobileAccessibilityCurriculum-iOSForDevelopers
.html
* W3 on Mobile Accessibility:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Mobile_Accessibility
* MediaWiki ­ Accessibility Guide for Developers:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility_guide_for_developers


General iOS accessibility:

Note: Look here for features you want included in your app design.
Accommodations for other disabilities, not just visual, are listed as well.

* Apple: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
* Apple http://www.apple.com/ios/accessibility-tips/
* Apple ­ Use Accessibility Features :
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204390
* Apple ­ What's new in iOS: http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/

* Applevis
http://www.applevis.com/guides/ios-miscellaneous-voiceover/intro-ios-access
ibility-blind-and-low-vision-users
* AppleVis and iOS 9 Accessibility:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-assistive-technology-braille-ios-news-op
inion/what-s-new-and-changed-ios-9-accessibility
* iOS Access for All book: http://www.iosaccessbook.com
<http://www.iosaccessbook.com/>;/
* iOS 9 and Accessibility blog post:
https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-9-and-accessibility-my-5-favorite-de
tails/
* Interactive Accessibility:
http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/ios-accessibility
* Interactive Accessibility ­ iOS & Android Screen Reader Gesture Cheat
sheet (very cool cheat sheets):
http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/mobile-screen-reader-gestures#
.VvVmZHCUmyC

If you'd like further assistance, please let me know. I'm happy to do what
I can. And, truthfully, I'm not a coder (I have web dev experience), but
I'm curious about it myself.

Mike Bicknell




On 3/29/16, 1:05 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Mike Barlow"
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

>Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
>process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
>developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
>together.
>
>Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread,
>but
>while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
>Android development?
>
>*Mike Barlow*
>Web Application Developer
>Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
>Lancaster, Pa 17601
>Office: 732.784.3047
>Cell: 732.682.8226
>e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
>On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Kelly,
>>
>> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
>>creating
>> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will be
>> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
>> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and deaf-blindness.
>> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
>>accessible
>> and not so user-friendly.
>>
>> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
>> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
>>time
>> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y and
>> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine. Who
>> knows what will be needed in the future?)
>>
>> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding iOS
>> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
>> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
>>website/mobile
>> >app development company and is working with at least one client in the
>> >accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I have
>> >some idea of what to tell him?
>> >
>> >Kelly
>> >
>> >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell
>>< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello -
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
>>groups
>> >> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently,
>>iOS
>> >> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would
>>be
>> >> helpful.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Mike Bicknell
>> >> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
>> >> Washington State School for the Blind
>> >> Office: 360-947-3331
>> >> Main: 360-947-3300
>> >> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >> WSSB Distance Learning:
>> >> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
>> >> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
>> >> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
>>site):
>> >> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>

From: Mike Barlow
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 2:28PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Thanks Mike, that's a GREAT list just as is.
I've done a lot of ally stuff, mostly for desktop web browsers so kind of
new to the whole mobile accessibility thing and want to learn more about
that end of the spectrum.

*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME

Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.784.3047
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Yes, I'm happy to share the resources. I'll post the info for everyone.
> Maybe others are interested or can point out a deficiency in my research.
> Below is what I sent to our group. If you'd prefer a Word or Pages doc
> with headings and such, let me know.
>
> "Xcode Accessibility Debugger:
>
> This feature is a developer-facing one, but I'm including it here because
> it's so cool. I first learned about it while listening to episode 124 of
> John Gruber's podcast, The Talk Show
> <http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2015/06/20/ep-124>;, during which
> Gruber and guest Guy English talk briefly about Apple's efforts in
> supporting accessibility.
>
> With the new Accessibility Debugger in Xcode, developers are now able to
> debug, in real time, problems with their app's accessibility. For example,
> a developer using VoiceOver can now make sure that text labels and images
> in their app work properly with VoiceOver. If problems are found,
> developers can fix them right away. (A similar, but not new, feature is
> Xcode's Accessibility Inspector, which also helps in gauging app
> accessibility.)
> While bugs are inevitable and beta testers valuable, the addition of the
> accessibility debugger is huge insofar that Apple is giving developers
> another tool with which to best support accessibility. In the grand
> scheme, such a tool only benefits users, as more apps will be open (read:
> accessible) to those with special needs." (Article from the iMore site:
> http://www.imore.com/what-you-need-know-about-accessibility-ios-9)
>
> Note: Xcode is the IDE (Integrated Development Environment) where the
> developers can work on their iOS apps. It kind of functions how Adobe
> Dreamweaver operates for web development. Anyway. So, programmers can use
> the Xcode IDE to write an iOS app using Swift or Objective C languages. I
> recently broke this process down for one of our teachers and a student,
> who is interested in creating apps. If you're interested I can send that
> along too.
>
> For iOS developers
>
> * Apple resources for developers and iOS accessibility:
> https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
> * Apple accessibility for developers:
> https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/
> * Apple, more for developers:
> https://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/developer/
> * A blog post from 2012 on testing iOS apps for accessibility:
> http://www.rosiesherry.com/2012/09/02/ios-accessibility-a-useful-guide-for-
> testing/
> * AppleVis (likely a bit older):
> http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers
> * AppleVis for programming iOS:
> http://www.applevis.com/guides/programming-ios
> * TechCrunch article on the WWDC:
> http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/14/wwdc-puts-accessibility-on-the-radar-for-d
> evelopers/
> * CSU PD for Accessible Tech (2012?):
> http://teachingcommons.cdl.edu/access/resources/MobileDeveloperResources.sh
> tml
> * Universal Mind blog post:
> http://www.universalmind.com/blog/user-experience/apps-for-everyone-part-2-
> strategies-for-accessibility-in-ios/
> * A course from SSB BART Group on "iOS Mobile Accessibility for
> Developers":
> http://info.ssbbartgroup.com/MobileAccessibilityCurriculum-iOSForDevelopers
> .html
> * W3 on Mobile Accessibility:
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Mobile_Accessibility
> * MediaWiki ­ Accessibility Guide for Developers:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility_guide_for_developers
>
>
> General iOS accessibility:
>
> Note: Look here for features you want included in your app design.
> Accommodations for other disabilities, not just visual, are listed as well.
>
> * Apple: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
> * Apple http://www.apple.com/ios/accessibility-tips/
> * Apple ­ Use Accessibility Features :
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204390
> * Apple ­ What's new in iOS: http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/
>
> * Applevis
> http://www.applevis.com/guides/ios-miscellaneous-voiceover/intro-ios-access
> ibility-blind-and-low-vision-users
> * AppleVis and iOS 9 Accessibility:
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-assistive-technology-braille-ios-news-op
> inion/what-s-new-and-changed-ios-9-accessibility
> * iOS Access for All book: http://www.iosaccessbook.com
> <http://www.iosaccessbook.com/>;/
> * iOS 9 and Accessibility blog post:
> https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-9-and-accessibility-my-5-favorite-de
> tails/
> * Interactive Accessibility:
> http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/ios-accessibility
> * Interactive Accessibility ­ iOS & Android Screen Reader Gesture Cheat
> sheet (very cool cheat sheets):
> http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/mobile-screen-reader-gestures#
> .VvVmZHCUmyC
>
> If you'd like further assistance, please let me know. I'm happy to do what
> I can. And, truthfully, I'm not a coder (I have web dev experience), but
> I'm curious about it myself.
>
> Mike Bicknell
>
>
>
>
> On 3/29/16, 1:05 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Mike Barlow"
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> >Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
> >process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
> >developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
> >together.
> >
> >Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread,
> >but
> >while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
> >Android development?
> >
> >*Mike Barlow*
> >Web Application Developer
> >Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
> >
> >Lancaster, Pa 17601
> >Office: 732.784.3047
> >Cell: 732.682.8226
> >e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Kelly,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
> >>creating
> >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will be
> >> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
> >> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and deaf-blindness.
> >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
> >>accessible
> >> and not so user-friendly.
> >>
> >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
> >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
> >>time
> >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y and
> >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine. Who
> >> knows what will be needed in the future?)
> >>
> >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding iOS
> >> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
> >> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
> >> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
> >>website/mobile
> >> >app development company and is working with at least one client in the
> >> >accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I have
> >> >some idea of what to tell him?
> >> >
> >> >Kelly
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell
> >>< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello -
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
> >>groups
> >> >> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently,
> >>iOS
> >> >> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would
> >>be
> >> >> helpful.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike Bicknell
> >> >> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
> >> >> Washington State School for the Blind
> >> >> Office: 360-947-3331
> >> >> Main: 360-947-3300
> >> >> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> >> WSSB Distance Learning:
> >> >> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
> >> >> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
> >> >> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
> >>site):
> >> >> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> >> >> >> >>
> > > > >

From: Mike Bicknell
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 2:37PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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You're very welcome. Glad to be useful.


On 3/29/16, 1:28 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Mike Barlow"
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

>Thanks Mike, that's a GREAT list just as is.
>I've done a lot of ally stuff, mostly for desktop web browsers so kind of
>new to the whole mobile accessibility thing and want to learn more about
>that end of the spectrum.
>
>*Mike Barlow*
>Web Application Developer
>Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
>Lancaster, Pa 17601
>Office: 732.784.3047
>Cell: 732.682.8226
>e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
>On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, I'm happy to share the resources. I'll post the info for everyone.
>> Maybe others are interested or can point out a deficiency in my
>>research.
>> Below is what I sent to our group. If you'd prefer a Word or Pages doc
>> with headings and such, let me know.
>>
>> "Xcode Accessibility Debugger:
>>
>> This feature is a developer-facing one, but I'm including it here
>>because
>> it's so cool. I first learned about it while listening to episode 124 of
>> John Gruber's podcast, The Talk Show
>> <http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2015/06/20/ep-124>;, during which
>> Gruber and guest Guy English talk briefly about Apple's efforts in
>> supporting accessibility.
>>
>> With the new Accessibility Debugger in Xcode, developers are now able to
>> debug, in real time, problems with their app's accessibility. For
>>example,
>> a developer using VoiceOver can now make sure that text labels and
>>images
>> in their app work properly with VoiceOver. If problems are found,
>> developers can fix them right away. (A similar, but not new, feature is
>> Xcode's Accessibility Inspector, which also helps in gauging app
>> accessibility.)
>> While bugs are inevitable and beta testers valuable, the addition of the
>> accessibility debugger is huge insofar that Apple is giving developers
>> another tool with which to best support accessibility. In the grand
>> scheme, such a tool only benefits users, as more apps will be open
>>(read:
>> accessible) to those with special needs." (Article from the iMore site:
>> http://www.imore.com/what-you-need-know-about-accessibility-ios-9)
>>
>> Note: Xcode is the IDE (Integrated Development Environment) where the
>> developers can work on their iOS apps. It kind of functions how Adobe
>> Dreamweaver operates for web development. Anyway. So, programmers can
>>use
>> the Xcode IDE to write an iOS app using Swift or Objective C languages.
>>I
>> recently broke this process down for one of our teachers and a student,
>> who is interested in creating apps. If you're interested I can send that
>> along too.
>>
>> For iOS developers
>>
>> * Apple resources for developers and iOS accessibility:
>> https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
>> * Apple accessibility for developers:
>> https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/
>> * Apple, more for developers:
>> https://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/developer/
>> * A blog post from 2012 on testing iOS apps for accessibility:
>>
>>http://www.rosiesherry.com/2012/09/02/ios-accessibility-a-useful-guide-fo
>>r-
>> testing/
>> * AppleVis (likely a bit older):
>> http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers
>> * AppleVis for programming iOS:
>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/programming-ios
>> * TechCrunch article on the WWDC:
>>
>>http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/14/wwdc-puts-accessibility-on-the-radar-for
>>-d
>> evelopers/
>> * CSU PD for Accessible Tech (2012?):
>>
>>http://teachingcommons.cdl.edu/access/resources/MobileDeveloperResources.
>>sh
>> tml
>> * Universal Mind blog post:
>>
>>http://www.universalmind.com/blog/user-experience/apps-for-everyone-part-
>>2-
>> strategies-for-accessibility-in-ios/
>> * A course from SSB BART Group on "iOS Mobile Accessibility for
>> Developers":
>>
>>http://info.ssbbartgroup.com/MobileAccessibilityCurriculum-iOSForDevelope
>>rs
>> .html
>> * W3 on Mobile Accessibility:
>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Mobile_Accessibility
>> * MediaWiki ­ Accessibility Guide for Developers:
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility_guide_for_developers
>>
>>
>> General iOS accessibility:
>>
>> Note: Look here for features you want included in your app design.
>> Accommodations for other disabilities, not just visual, are listed as
>>well.
>>
>> * Apple: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
>> * Apple http://www.apple.com/ios/accessibility-tips/
>> * Apple ­ Use Accessibility Features :
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204390
>> * Apple ­ What's new in iOS: http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/
>>
>> * Applevis
>>
>>http://www.applevis.com/guides/ios-miscellaneous-voiceover/intro-ios-acce
>>ss
>> ibility-blind-and-low-vision-users
>> * AppleVis and iOS 9 Accessibility:
>>
>>http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-assistive-technology-braille-ios-news-
>>op
>> inion/what-s-new-and-changed-ios-9-accessibility
>> * iOS Access for All book: http://www.iosaccessbook.com
>> <http://www.iosaccessbook.com/>;/
>> * iOS 9 and Accessibility blog post:
>>
>>https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-9-and-accessibility-my-5-favorite-
>>de
>> tails/
>> * Interactive Accessibility:
>> http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/ios-accessibility
>> * Interactive Accessibility ­ iOS & Android Screen Reader Gesture Cheat
>> sheet (very cool cheat sheets):
>>
>>http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/mobile-screen-reader-gesture
>>s#
>> .VvVmZHCUmyC
>>
>> If you'd like further assistance, please let me know. I'm happy to do
>>what
>> I can. And, truthfully, I'm not a coder (I have web dev experience), but
>> I'm curious about it myself.
>>
>> Mike Bicknell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/29/16, 1:05 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Mike Barlow"
>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in
>>this
>> >process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
>> >developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
>> >together.
>> >
>> >Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread,
>> >but
>> >while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
>> >Android development?
>> >
>> >*Mike Barlow*
>> >Web Application Developer
>> >Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>> >
>> >Lancaster, Pa 17601
>> >Office: 732.784.3047
>> >Cell: 732.682.8226
>> >e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >
>> >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell
>>< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Kelly,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
>> >>creating
>> >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will
>>be
>> >> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
>> >> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and
>>deaf-blindness.
>> >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
>> >>accessible
>> >> and not so user-friendly.
>> >>
>> >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
>> >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
>> >>time
>> >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y
>>and
>> >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine.
>>Who
>> >> knows what will be needed in the future?)
>> >>
>> >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding
>>iOS
>> >> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
>> >> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
>> >> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
>> >>website/mobile
>> >> >app development company and is working with at least one client in
>>the
>> >> >accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I
>>have
>> >> >some idea of what to tell him?
>> >> >
>> >> >Kelly
>> >> >
>> >> >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell
>> >>< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >> >
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hello -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
>> >>groups
>> >> >> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps?
>>Currently,
>> >>iOS
>> >> >> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus
>>would
>> >>be
>> >> >> helpful.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Mike
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mike Bicknell
>> >> >> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
>> >> >> Washington State School for the Blind
>> >> >> Office: 360-947-3331
>> >> >> Main: 360-947-3300
>> >> >> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >> >> WSSB Distance Learning:
>> >> >> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
>> >> >> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
>> >> >> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
>> >>site):
>> >> >> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>

From: Cliff Tyllick
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 2:41PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Mike, to answer your original question, the U.S. GSA maintains the Web Content Managers Forum for employees of federal, state, and local governmental agencies, including public schools of all levels. We cover a variety of topics in our conversations, and the question you're asking would be right in line.

Look into joining. You'll be glad you did. The URL for more information is www.digitalgov.gov/communities/web-managers-forum/

Cliff

Cliff Tyllick
EIR Accessibility Coordinator
Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
512-438-2494 (o)

Sent from my iPhone
Although its spellcheck often saves me, all goofs in sent messages are its fault.

> On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
> process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
> developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put together.
>
> Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread, but
> while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
> Android development?
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.784.3047
> Cell: 732.682.8226
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kelly,
>>
>> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in creating
>> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will be
>> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
>> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and deaf-blindness.
>> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so accessible
>> and not so user-friendly.
>>
>> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
>> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of time
>> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y and
>> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine. Who
>> knows what will be needed in the future?)
>>
>> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding iOS
>> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
>> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a website/mobile
>>> app development company and is working with at least one client in the
>>> accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I have
>>> some idea of what to tell him?
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello -
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability groups
>>>> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently, iOS
>>>> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would be
>>>> helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Mike Bicknell
>>>> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
>>>> Washington State School for the Blind
>>>> Office: 360-947-3331
>>>> Main: 360-947-3300
>>>> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>>> WSSB Distance Learning:
>>>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
>>>> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
>>>> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder site):
>>>> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
>> >> >> >> > > > >

From: Mike Barlow
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 2:57PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Thanks Cliff...

*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME

Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.784.3047
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Cliff Tyllick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Mike, to answer your original question, the U.S. GSA maintains the Web
> Content Managers Forum for employees of federal, state, and local
> governmental agencies, including public schools of all levels. We cover a
> variety of topics in our conversations, and the question you're asking
> would be right in line.
>
> Look into joining. You'll be glad you did. The URL for more information is
> www.digitalgov.gov/communities/web-managers-forum/
>
> Cliff
>
> Cliff Tyllick
> EIR Accessibility Coordinator
> Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 512-438-2494 (o)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Although its spellcheck often saves me, all goofs in sent messages are its
> fault.
>
> > On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
> > process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
> > developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
> together.
> >
> > Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread,
> but
> > while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
> > Android development?
> >
> > *Mike Barlow*
> > Web Application Developer
> > Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
> >
> > Lancaster, Pa 17601
> > Office: 732.784.3047
> > Cell: 732.682.8226
> > e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Kelly,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
> creating
> >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will be
> >> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
> >> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and deaf-blindness.
> >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
> accessible
> >> and not so user-friendly.
> >>
> >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
> >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
> time
> >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y and
> >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine. Who
> >> knows what will be needed in the future?)
> >>
> >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding iOS
> >> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
> >> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
> >>
> >> Many thanks,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
> >> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
> website/mobile
> >>> app development company and is working with at least one client in the
> >>> accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I have
> >>> some idea of what to tell him?
> >>>
> >>> Kelly
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello -
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
> groups
> >>>> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently,
> iOS
> >>>> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would be
> >>>> helpful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike Bicknell
> >>>> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
> >>>> Washington State School for the Blind
> >>>> Office: 360-947-3331
> >>>> Main: 360-947-3300
> >>>> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >>>> WSSB Distance Learning:
> >>>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
> >>>> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
> >>>> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder site):
> >>>> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
> >>>>
> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>
> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

From: Mike Barlow
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 3:10PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Hmmm Cliff, I just tried checking out the digitalgov subscribe page
<http://connect.digitalgov.gov/subscribe>; and I'm not sure but it looks
like they have an accessibility/usability issue there...

They have an asterisk next to the Email label for the Email field but no
instructions (until AFTER you focus and leave the Email field) that
the Email field is required.
I can't pin my finger on the exact guideline that this violates but,
personally, I never have required fields without clear instructions on the
form before the form itself.
The "You didn't fill out this field" helper is good but not if it only
presents itself after the fact (which would require the user to backtrack
in filling in the form).

Now I know you don't have anything to do with the design of that site/page
but it never ceases to amaze me at how poor state and federal sites are at
complying with 508 federal regs...

(sorry just had to let that rant out)

Anyone else have any thoughts on that topic?


*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME

Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.784.3047
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Thanks Cliff...
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.784.3047
> Cell: 732.682.8226
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Cliff Tyllick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Mike, to answer your original question, the U.S. GSA maintains the Web
>> Content Managers Forum for employees of federal, state, and local
>> governmental agencies, including public schools of all levels. We cover a
>> variety of topics in our conversations, and the question you're asking
>> would be right in line.
>>
>> Look into joining. You'll be glad you did. The URL for more information
>> is www.digitalgov.gov/communities/web-managers-forum/
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>> Cliff Tyllick
>> EIR Accessibility Coordinator
>> Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> 512-438-2494 (o)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Although its spellcheck often saves me, all goofs in sent messages are
>> its fault.
>>
>> > On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
>> > process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
>> > developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
>> together.
>> >
>> > Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread,
>> but
>> > while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
>> > Android development?
>> >
>> > *Mike Barlow*
>> > Web Application Developer
>> > Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>> >
>> > Lancaster, Pa 17601
>> > Office: 732.784.3047
>> > Cell: 732.682.8226
>> > e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell <
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Kelly,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
>> creating
>> >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will be
>> >> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
>> >> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and
>> deaf-blindness.
>> >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
>> accessible
>> >> and not so user-friendly.
>> >>
>> >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
>> >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
>> time
>> >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y
>> and
>> >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine. Who
>> >> knows what will be needed in the future?)
>> >>
>> >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding iOS
>> >> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
>> >> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
>> >> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
>> website/mobile
>> >>> app development company and is working with at least one client in the
>> >>> accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I
>> have
>> >>> some idea of what to tell him?
>> >>>
>> >>> Kelly
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell <
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hello -
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
>> groups
>> >>>> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently,
>> iOS
>> >>>> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would
>> be
>> >>>> helpful.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Mike
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike Bicknell
>> >>>> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
>> >>>> Washington State School for the Blind
>> >>>> Office: 360-947-3331
>> >>>> Main: 360-947-3300
>> >>>> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >>>> WSSB Distance Learning:
>> >>>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
>> >>>> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
>> >>>> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
>> site):
>> >>>> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >>
>
>

From: Mike Bicknell
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 3:10PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Yes, thanks Cliff. That's helpful. I'll join.

Mike Bicknell
Digital Research and Development Coordinator
Washington State School for the Blind





On 3/29/16, 1:57 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Mike Barlow"
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

>Thanks Cliff...
>
>*Mike Barlow*
>Web Application Developer
>Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
>Lancaster, Pa 17601
>Office: 732.784.3047
>Cell: 732.682.8226
>e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
>On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Cliff Tyllick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Mike, to answer your original question, the U.S. GSA maintains the Web
>> Content Managers Forum for employees of federal, state, and local
>> governmental agencies, including public schools of all levels. We cover
>>a
>> variety of topics in our conversations, and the question you're asking
>> would be right in line.
>>
>> Look into joining. You'll be glad you did. The URL for more information
>>is
>> www.digitalgov.gov/communities/web-managers-forum/
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>> Cliff Tyllick
>> EIR Accessibility Coordinator
>> Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> 512-438-2494 (o)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Although its spellcheck often saves me, all goofs in sent messages are
>>its
>> fault.
>>
>> > On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in
>>this
>> > process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
>> > developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
>> together.
>> >
>> > Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another
>>thread,
>> but
>> > while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list
>>for
>> > Android development?
>> >
>> > *Mike Barlow*
>> > Web Application Developer
>> > Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>> >
>> > Lancaster, Pa 17601
>> > Office: 732.784.3047
>> > Cell: 732.682.8226
>> > e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell <
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Kelly,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
>> creating
>> >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will
>>be
>> >> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
>> >> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and
>>deaf-blindness.
>> >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
>> accessible
>> >> and not so user-friendly.
>> >>
>> >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
>> >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
>> time
>> >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y
>>and
>> >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine.
>>Who
>> >> knows what will be needed in the future?)
>> >>
>> >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding
>>iOS
>> >> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
>> >> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
>> >> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
>> website/mobile
>> >>> app development company and is working with at least one client in
>>the
>> >>> accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I
>>have
>> >>> some idea of what to tell him?
>> >>>
>> >>> Kelly
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell <
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hello -
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
>> groups
>> >>>> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps?
>>Currently,
>> iOS
>> >>>> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus
>>would be
>> >>>> helpful.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Mike
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike Bicknell
>> >>>> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
>> >>>> Washington State School for the Blind
>> >>>> Office: 360-947-3331
>> >>>> Main: 360-947-3300
>> >>>> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >>>> WSSB Distance Learning:
>> >>>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
>> >>>> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
>> >>>> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
>>site):
>> >>>> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >>
>>>>

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 3:14PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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> They have an asterisk next to the Email label for the Email field but no instructions (until AFTER you focus and leave the Email field) that the Email field is required.

The asterisk is included in the accessible name of the field and is widely seen as a standard acceptable way of indicated required fields.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Mike Barlow
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:10 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] App development group for A11y and/or UX?

Hmmm Cliff, I just tried checking out the digitalgov subscribe page <http://connect.digitalgov.gov/subscribe>; and I'm not sure but it looks like they have an accessibility/usability issue there...

They have an asterisk next to the Email label for the Email field but no instructions (until AFTER you focus and leave the Email field) that the Email field is required.
I can't pin my finger on the exact guideline that this violates but, personally, I never have required fields without clear instructions on the form before the form itself.
The "You didn't fill out this field" helper is good but not if it only presents itself after the fact (which would require the user to backtrack in filling in the form).

Now I know you don't have anything to do with the design of that site/page but it never ceases to amaze me at how poor state and federal sites are at complying with 508 federal regs...

(sorry just had to let that rant out)

Anyone else have any thoughts on that topic?


*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME

Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.784.3047
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Thanks Cliff...
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.784.3047
> Cell: 732.682.8226
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Cliff Tyllick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Mike, to answer your original question, the U.S. GSA maintains the
>> Web Content Managers Forum for employees of federal, state, and local
>> governmental agencies, including public schools of all levels. We
>> cover a variety of topics in our conversations, and the question
>> you're asking would be right in line.
>>
>> Look into joining. You'll be glad you did. The URL for more
>> information is www.digitalgov.gov/communities/web-managers-forum/
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>> Cliff Tyllick
>> EIR Accessibility Coordinator
>> Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> 512-438-2494 (o)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Although its spellcheck often saves me, all goofs in sent messages
>> are its fault.
>>
>> > On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in
>> > this process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources
>> > for developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you
>> > put
>> together.
>> >
>> > Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another
>> > thread,
>> but
>> > while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list
>> > for Android development?
>> >
>> > *Mike Barlow*
>> > Web Application Developer
>> > Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>> >
>> > Lancaster, Pa 17601
>> > Office: 732.784.3047
>> > Cell: 732.682.8226
>> > e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell <
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Kelly,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
>> creating
>> >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app
>> >> will be used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom
>> >> will have disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and
>> deaf-blindness.
>> >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
>> accessible
>> >> and not so user-friendly.
>> >>
>> >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
>> >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot
>> >> of
>> time
>> >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an
>> >> a11y
>> and
>> >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s
>> >> fine. Who knows what will be needed in the future?)
>> >>
>> >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users
>> >> regarding iOS accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I
>> >> did not find a non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
>> >> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
>> website/mobile
>> >>> app development company and is working with at least one client
>> >>> in the accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to
>> >>> do so I
>> have
>> >>> some idea of what to tell him?
>> >>>
>> >>> Kelly
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell <
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hello -
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
>> groups
>> >>>> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps?
>> >>>> Currently,
>> iOS
>> >>>> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus
>> >>>> would
>> be
>> >>>> helpful.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Mike
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike Bicknell
>> >>>> Digital Research and Development Coordinator Washington State
>> >>>> School for the Blind
>> >>>> Office: 360-947-3331
>> >>>> Main: 360-947-3300
>> >>>> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = WSSB Distance Learning:
>> >>>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
>> >>>> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
>> >>>> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
>> site):
>> >>>> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >> >> > >> > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> > >> >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>> >>
>
>

From: Mike Barlow
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 3:20PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Thanks Jonathan, I had seen that but, I always thought that some additional
instruction (such as "Fields marked with a "*" are required") were required
as well.
More for individuals with cognitive issues rather than visual (since screen
readers would mention that there's an asterisk as part of the field label).
But then again perhaps, I'm just being anal about somethings I've done
since forever.

*Mike Barlow*
Web Application Developer
Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME

Lancaster, Pa 17601
Office: 732.784.3047
Cell: 732.682.8226
e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> > They have an asterisk next to the Email label for the Email field but no
> instructions (until AFTER you focus and leave the Email field) that the
> Email field is required.
>
> The asterisk is included in the accessible name of the field and is widely
> seen as a standard acceptable way of indicated required fields.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Mike Barlow
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:10 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] App development group for A11y and/or UX?
>
> Hmmm Cliff, I just tried checking out the digitalgov subscribe page <
> http://connect.digitalgov.gov/subscribe>; and I'm not sure but it looks
> like they have an accessibility/usability issue there...
>
> They have an asterisk next to the Email label for the Email field but no
> instructions (until AFTER you focus and leave the Email field) that the
> Email field is required.
> I can't pin my finger on the exact guideline that this violates but,
> personally, I never have required fields without clear instructions on the
> form before the form itself.
> The "You didn't fill out this field" helper is good but not if it only
> presents itself after the fact (which would require the user to backtrack
> in filling in the form).
>
> Now I know you don't have anything to do with the design of that site/page
> but it never ceases to amaze me at how poor state and federal sites are at
> complying with 508 federal regs...
>
> (sorry just had to let that rant out)
>
> Anyone else have any thoughts on that topic?
>
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.784.3047
> Cell: 732.682.8226
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Thanks Cliff...
> >
> > *Mike Barlow*
> > Web Application Developer
> > Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
> >
> > Lancaster, Pa 17601
> > Office: 732.784.3047
> > Cell: 732.682.8226
> > e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Cliff Tyllick < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> >> Mike, to answer your original question, the U.S. GSA maintains the
> >> Web Content Managers Forum for employees of federal, state, and local
> >> governmental agencies, including public schools of all levels. We
> >> cover a variety of topics in our conversations, and the question
> >> you're asking would be right in line.
> >>
> >> Look into joining. You'll be glad you did. The URL for more
> >> information is www.digitalgov.gov/communities/web-managers-forum/
> >>
> >> Cliff
> >>
> >> Cliff Tyllick
> >> EIR Accessibility Coordinator
> >> Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services
> >> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> 512-438-2494 (o)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> Although its spellcheck often saves me, all goofs in sent messages
> >> are its fault.
> >>
> >> > On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in
> >> > this process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources
> >> > for developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you
> >> > put
> >> together.
> >> >
> >> > Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another
> >> > thread,
> >> but
> >> > while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list
> >> > for Android development?
> >> >
> >> > *Mike Barlow*
> >> > Web Application Developer
> >> > Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
> >> >
> >> > Lancaster, Pa 17601
> >> > Office: 732.784.3047
> >> > Cell: 732.682.8226
> >> > e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell <
> >> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Kelly,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
> >> creating
> >> >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app
> >> >> will be used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom
> >> >> will have disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and
> >> deaf-blindness.
> >> >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
> >> accessible
> >> >> and not so user-friendly.
> >> >>
> >> >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
> >> >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot
> >> >> of
> >> time
> >> >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an
> >> >> a11y
> >> and
> >> >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s
> >> >> fine. Who knows what will be needed in the future?)
> >> >>
> >> >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users
> >> >> regarding iOS accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I
> >> >> did not find a non-profit that guided the conversation or that
> hosted a listserv.
> >> >>
> >> >> Many thanks,
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
> >> >> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of
> >> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
> >> website/mobile
> >> >>> app development company and is working with at least one client
> >> >>> in the accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to
> >> >>> do so I
> >> have
> >> >>> some idea of what to tell him?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Kelly
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell <
> >> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >> >>>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Hello -
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
> >> groups
> >> >>>> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps?
> >> >>>> Currently,
> >> iOS
> >> >>>> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus
> >> >>>> would
> >> be
> >> >>>> helpful.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks,
> >> >>>> Mike
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Mike Bicknell
> >> >>>> Digital Research and Development Coordinator Washington State
> >> >>>> School for the Blind
> >> >>>> Office: 360-947-3331
> >> >>>> Main: 360-947-3300
> >> >>>> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = WSSB Distance Learning:
> >> >>>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
> >> >>>> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
> >> >>>> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
> >> site):
> >> >>>> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> >>> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> > > >> > >> > >> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >> > >>
> >
> >
> > > at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > > > >

From: Kelly Lupo
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 4:21PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Seconded - thank you much for sharing!

Secondly, I don't really speak sales/management/administration very well
(I'm just a lowly former server admin - not even a programmer! :)), so
while what you say about the project makes sense, I passed it on anyway.
Can't hurt, right?

Thank you again - that list should keep me busy in readings for a good
while. :) (And Xcode looks incredibly interesting - I'll have to try it
over the summer, when classes die down. That said, is there anything
similar for Android?)

Kelly

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Thanks Mike, that's a GREAT list just as is.
> I've done a lot of ally stuff, mostly for desktop web browsers so kind of
> new to the whole mobile accessibility thing and want to learn more about
> that end of the spectrum.
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.784.3047
> Cell: 732.682.8226
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Yes, I'm happy to share the resources. I'll post the info for everyone.
> > Maybe others are interested or can point out a deficiency in my research.
> > Below is what I sent to our group. If you'd prefer a Word or Pages doc
> > with headings and such, let me know.
> >
> > "Xcode Accessibility Debugger:
> >
> > This feature is a developer-facing one, but I'm including it here because
> > it's so cool. I first learned about it while listening to episode 124 of
> > John Gruber's podcast, The Talk Show
> > <http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2015/06/20/ep-124>;, during which
> > Gruber and guest Guy English talk briefly about Apple's efforts in
> > supporting accessibility.
> >
> > With the new Accessibility Debugger in Xcode, developers are now able to
> > debug, in real time, problems with their app's accessibility. For
> example,
> > a developer using VoiceOver can now make sure that text labels and images
> > in their app work properly with VoiceOver. If problems are found,
> > developers can fix them right away. (A similar, but not new, feature is
> > Xcode's Accessibility Inspector, which also helps in gauging app
> > accessibility.)
> > While bugs are inevitable and beta testers valuable, the addition of the
> > accessibility debugger is huge insofar that Apple is giving developers
> > another tool with which to best support accessibility. In the grand
> > scheme, such a tool only benefits users, as more apps will be open (read:
> > accessible) to those with special needs." (Article from the iMore site:
> > http://www.imore.com/what-you-need-know-about-accessibility-ios-9)
> >
> > Note: Xcode is the IDE (Integrated Development Environment) where the
> > developers can work on their iOS apps. It kind of functions how Adobe
> > Dreamweaver operates for web development. Anyway. So, programmers can use
> > the Xcode IDE to write an iOS app using Swift or Objective C languages. I
> > recently broke this process down for one of our teachers and a student,
> > who is interested in creating apps. If you're interested I can send that
> > along too.
> >
> > For iOS developers
> >
> > * Apple resources for developers and iOS accessibility:
> > https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
> > * Apple accessibility for developers:
> > https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/
> > * Apple, more for developers:
> > https://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/developer/
> > * A blog post from 2012 on testing iOS apps for accessibility:
> >
> http://www.rosiesherry.com/2012/09/02/ios-accessibility-a-useful-guide-for-
> > testing/
> > * AppleVis (likely a bit older):
> > http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers
> > * AppleVis for programming iOS:
> > http://www.applevis.com/guides/programming-ios
> > * TechCrunch article on the WWDC:
> >
> http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/14/wwdc-puts-accessibility-on-the-radar-for-d
> > evelopers/
> > * CSU PD for Accessible Tech (2012?):
> >
> http://teachingcommons.cdl.edu/access/resources/MobileDeveloperResources.sh
> > tml
> > * Universal Mind blog post:
> >
> http://www.universalmind.com/blog/user-experience/apps-for-everyone-part-2-
> > strategies-for-accessibility-in-ios/
> > * A course from SSB BART Group on "iOS Mobile Accessibility for
> > Developers":
> >
> http://info.ssbbartgroup.com/MobileAccessibilityCurriculum-iOSForDevelopers
> > .html
> > * W3 on Mobile Accessibility:
> > https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Mobile_Accessibility
> > * MediaWiki ­ Accessibility Guide for Developers:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility_guide_for_developers
> >
> >
> > General iOS accessibility:
> >
> > Note: Look here for features you want included in your app design.
> > Accommodations for other disabilities, not just visual, are listed as
> well.
> >
> > * Apple: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
> > * Apple http://www.apple.com/ios/accessibility-tips/
> > * Apple ­ Use Accessibility Features :
> > https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204390
> > * Apple ­ What's new in iOS: http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/
> >
> > * Applevis
> >
> http://www.applevis.com/guides/ios-miscellaneous-voiceover/intro-ios-access
> > ibility-blind-and-low-vision-users
> > * AppleVis and iOS 9 Accessibility:
> >
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-assistive-technology-braille-ios-news-op
> > inion/what-s-new-and-changed-ios-9-accessibility
> > * iOS Access for All book: http://www.iosaccessbook.com
> > <http://www.iosaccessbook.com/>;/
> > * iOS 9 and Accessibility blog post:
> >
> https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-9-and-accessibility-my-5-favorite-de
> > tails/
> > * Interactive Accessibility:
> > http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/ios-accessibility
> > * Interactive Accessibility ­ iOS & Android Screen Reader Gesture Cheat
> > sheet (very cool cheat sheets):
> >
> http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/mobile-screen-reader-gestures#
> > .VvVmZHCUmyC
> >
> > If you'd like further assistance, please let me know. I'm happy to do
> what
> > I can. And, truthfully, I'm not a coder (I have web dev experience), but
> > I'm curious about it myself.
> >
> > Mike Bicknell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/29/16, 1:05 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Mike Barlow"
> > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
> > >process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
> > >developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
> > >together.
> > >
> > >Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread,
> > >but
> > >while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
> > >Android development?
> > >
> > >*Mike Barlow*
> > >Web Application Developer
> > >Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
> > >
> > >Lancaster, Pa 17601
> > >Office: 732.784.3047
> > >Cell: 732.682.8226
> > >e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >
> > >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Kelly,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
> > >>creating
> > >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will
> be
> > >> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
> > >> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and
> deaf-blindness.
> > >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
> > >>accessible
> > >> and not so user-friendly.
> > >>
> > >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
> > >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
> > >>time
> > >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y
> and
> > >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine.
> Who
> > >> knows what will be needed in the future?)
> > >>
> > >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding
> iOS
> > >> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
> > >> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
> > >>
> > >> Many thanks,
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
> > >> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
> > >>website/mobile
> > >> >app development company and is working with at least one client in
> the
> > >> >accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I
> have
> > >> >some idea of what to tell him?
> > >> >
> > >> >Kelly
> > >> >
> > >> >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell
> > >>< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> >
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hello -
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
> > >>groups
> > >> >> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps?
> Currently,
> > >>iOS
> > >> >> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would
> > >>be
> > >> >> helpful.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> Mike
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Mike Bicknell
> > >> >> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
> > >> >> Washington State School for the Blind
> > >> >> Office: 360-947-3331
> > >> >> Main: 360-947-3300
> > >> >> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> >> WSSB Distance Learning:
> > >> >> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
> > >> >> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
> > >> >> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
> > >>site):
> > >> >> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >

From: Pratik Patel
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2016 5:35PM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Here are a couple of other resources to add to the ones provided on this thread.

Check out the Apple Accessibility Developer List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >. This is not a heavy traffic list. It mainly consists of people asking questions and one or two Apple staff answering questions.

Accessibility - Android Developers: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/accessibility/index.html

Android accessibility help: https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/?hl=en#topic`07234

Accessibility Scanner for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.accessibility.auditor




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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Kelly Lupo
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:22 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] App development group for A11y and/or UX?

Seconded - thank you much for sharing!

Secondly, I don't really speak sales/management/administration very well
(I'm just a lowly former server admin - not even a programmer! :)), so
while what you say about the project makes sense, I passed it on anyway.
Can't hurt, right?

Thank you again - that list should keep me busy in readings for a good
while. :) (And Xcode looks incredibly interesting - I'll have to try it
over the summer, when classes die down. That said, is there anything
similar for Android?)

Kelly

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Mike Barlow < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Thanks Mike, that's a GREAT list just as is.
> I've done a lot of ally stuff, mostly for desktop web browsers so kind of
> new to the whole mobile accessibility thing and want to learn more about
> that end of the spectrum.
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.784.3047
> Cell: 732.682.8226
> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Yes, I'm happy to share the resources. I'll post the info for everyone.
> > Maybe others are interested or can point out a deficiency in my research.
> > Below is what I sent to our group. If you'd prefer a Word or Pages doc
> > with headings and such, let me know.
> >
> > "Xcode Accessibility Debugger:
> >
> > This feature is a developer-facing one, but I'm including it here because
> > it's so cool. I first learned about it while listening to episode 124 of
> > John Gruber's podcast, The Talk Show
> > <http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2015/06/20/ep-124>;, during which
> > Gruber and guest Guy English talk briefly about Apple's efforts in
> > supporting accessibility.
> >
> > With the new Accessibility Debugger in Xcode, developers are now able to
> > debug, in real time, problems with their app's accessibility. For
> example,
> > a developer using VoiceOver can now make sure that text labels and images
> > in their app work properly with VoiceOver. If problems are found,
> > developers can fix them right away. (A similar, but not new, feature is
> > Xcode's Accessibility Inspector, which also helps in gauging app
> > accessibility.)
> > While bugs are inevitable and beta testers valuable, the addition of the
> > accessibility debugger is huge insofar that Apple is giving developers
> > another tool with which to best support accessibility. In the grand
> > scheme, such a tool only benefits users, as more apps will be open (read:
> > accessible) to those with special needs." (Article from the iMore site:
> > http://www.imore.com/what-you-need-know-about-accessibility-ios-9)
> >
> > Note: Xcode is the IDE (Integrated Development Environment) where the
> > developers can work on their iOS apps. It kind of functions how Adobe
> > Dreamweaver operates for web development. Anyway. So, programmers can use
> > the Xcode IDE to write an iOS app using Swift or Objective C languages. I
> > recently broke this process down for one of our teachers and a student,
> > who is interested in creating apps. If you're interested I can send that
> > along too.
> >
> > For iOS developers
> >
> > * Apple resources for developers and iOS accessibility:
> > https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
> > * Apple accessibility for developers:
> > https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/
> > * Apple, more for developers:
> > https://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/developer/
> > * A blog post from 2012 on testing iOS apps for accessibility:
> >
> http://www.rosiesherry.com/2012/09/02/ios-accessibility-a-useful-guide-for-
> > testing/
> > * AppleVis (likely a bit older):
> > http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers
> > * AppleVis for programming iOS:
> > http://www.applevis.com/guides/programming-ios
> > * TechCrunch article on the WWDC:
> >
> http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/14/wwdc-puts-accessibility-on-the-radar-for-d
> > evelopers/
> > * CSU PD for Accessible Tech (2012?):
> >
> http://teachingcommons.cdl.edu/access/resources/MobileDeveloperResources.sh
> > tml
> > * Universal Mind blog post:
> >
> http://www.universalmind.com/blog/user-experience/apps-for-everyone-part-2-
> > strategies-for-accessibility-in-ios/
> > * A course from SSB BART Group on "iOS Mobile Accessibility for
> > Developers":
> >
> http://info.ssbbartgroup.com/MobileAccessibilityCurriculum-iOSForDevelopers
> > .html
> > * W3 on Mobile Accessibility:
> > https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Mobile_Accessibility
> > * MediaWiki ­ Accessibility Guide for Developers:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility_guide_for_developers
> >
> >
> > General iOS accessibility:
> >
> > Note: Look here for features you want included in your app design.
> > Accommodations for other disabilities, not just visual, are listed as
> well.
> >
> > * Apple: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
> > * Apple http://www.apple.com/ios/accessibility-tips/
> > * Apple ­ Use Accessibility Features :
> > https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204390
> > * Apple ­ What's new in iOS: http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/
> >
> > * Applevis
> >
> http://www.applevis.com/guides/ios-miscellaneous-voiceover/intro-ios-access
> > ibility-blind-and-low-vision-users
> > * AppleVis and iOS 9 Accessibility:
> >
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-assistive-technology-braille-ios-news-op
> > inion/what-s-new-and-changed-ios-9-accessibility
> > * iOS Access for All book: http://www.iosaccessbook.com
> > <http://www.iosaccessbook.com/>;/
> > * iOS 9 and Accessibility blog post:
> >
> https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-9-and-accessibility-my-5-favorite-de
> > tails/
> > * Interactive Accessibility:
> > http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/ios-accessibility
> > * Interactive Accessibility ­ iOS & Android Screen Reader Gesture Cheat
> > sheet (very cool cheat sheets):
> >
> http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/mobile-screen-reader-gestures#
> > .VvVmZHCUmyC
> >
> > If you'd like further assistance, please let me know. I'm happy to do
> what
> > I can. And, truthfully, I'm not a coder (I have web dev experience), but
> > I'm curious about it myself.
> >
> > Mike Bicknell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/29/16, 1:05 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Mike Barlow"
> > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
> > >process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
> > >developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
> > >together.
> > >
> > >Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread,
> > >but
> > >while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
> > >Android development?
> > >
> > >*Mike Barlow*
> > >Web Application Developer
> > >Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
> > >
> > >Lancaster, Pa 17601
> > >Office: 732.784.3047
> > >Cell: 732.682.8226
> > >e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >
> > >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell <
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Kelly,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
> > >>creating
> > >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will
> be
> > >> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
> > >> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and
> deaf-blindness.
> > >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
> > >>accessible
> > >> and not so user-friendly.
> > >>
> > >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
> > >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
> > >>time
> > >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y
> and
> > >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine.
> Who
> > >> knows what will be needed in the future?)
> > >>
> > >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding
> iOS
> > >> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
> > >> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
> > >>
> > >> Many thanks,
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
> > >> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
> > >>website/mobile
> > >> >app development company and is working with at least one client in
> the
> > >> >accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I
> have
> > >> >some idea of what to tell him?
> > >> >
> > >> >Kelly
> > >> >
> > >> >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell
> > >>< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> >
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hello -
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
> > >>groups
> > >> >> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps?
> Currently,
> > >>iOS
> > >> >> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would
> > >>be
> > >> >> helpful.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> Mike
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Mike Bicknell
> > >> >> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
> > >> >> Washington State School for the Blind
> > >> >> Office: 360-947-3331
> > >> >> Main: 360-947-3300
> > >> >> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >> >> WSSB Distance Learning:
> > >> >> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
> > >> >> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
> > >> >> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
> > >>site):
> > >> >> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>
> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >

From: Sean Murphy
Date: Wed, Mar 30 2016 3:26AM
Subject: Re: App development group for A11y and/or UX?
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Mike,

The BBC have a very good detailed check list for accessibility on mobile platforms. Sorry I don't have the url at hand.

One thing I would like to know if any of your students or people you know use the Xcode IDE environment to program and the challenges for a Voice-Over user.

Sean
> On 30 Mar 2016, at 7:25 am, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Yes, I'm happy to share the resources. I'll post the info for everyone.
> Maybe others are interested or can point out a deficiency in my research.
> Below is what I sent to our group. If you'd prefer a Word or Pages doc
> with headings and such, let me know.
>
> "Xcode Accessibility Debugger:
>
> This feature is a developer-facing one, but I'm including it here because
> it's so cool. I first learned about it while listening to episode 124 of
> John Gruber's podcast, The Talk Show
> <http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2015/06/20/ep-124>;, during which
> Gruber and guest Guy English talk briefly about Apple's efforts in
> supporting accessibility.
>
> With the new Accessibility Debugger in Xcode, developers are now able to
> debug, in real time, problems with their app's accessibility. For example,
> a developer using VoiceOver can now make sure that text labels and images
> in their app work properly with VoiceOver. If problems are found,
> developers can fix them right away. (A similar, but not new, feature is
> Xcode's Accessibility Inspector, which also helps in gauging app
> accessibility.)
> While bugs are inevitable and beta testers valuable, the addition of the
> accessibility debugger is huge insofar that Apple is giving developers
> another tool with which to best support accessibility. In the grand
> scheme, such a tool only benefits users, as more apps will be open (read:
> accessible) to those with special needs." (Article from the iMore site:
> http://www.imore.com/what-you-need-know-about-accessibility-ios-9)
>
> Note: Xcode is the IDE (Integrated Development Environment) where the
> developers can work on their iOS apps. It kind of functions how Adobe
> Dreamweaver operates for web development. Anyway. So, programmers can use
> the Xcode IDE to write an iOS app using Swift or Objective C languages. I
> recently broke this process down for one of our teachers and a student,
> who is interested in creating apps. If you're interested I can send that
> along too.
>
> For iOS developers
>
> * Apple resources for developers and iOS accessibility:
> https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
> * Apple accessibility for developers:
> https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/
> * Apple, more for developers:
> https://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/developer/
> * A blog post from 2012 on testing iOS apps for accessibility:
> http://www.rosiesherry.com/2012/09/02/ios-accessibility-a-useful-guide-for-
> testing/
> * AppleVis (likely a bit older):
> http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers
> * AppleVis for programming iOS:
> http://www.applevis.com/guides/programming-ios
> * TechCrunch article on the WWDC:
> http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/14/wwdc-puts-accessibility-on-the-radar-for-d
> evelopers/
> * CSU PD for Accessible Tech (2012?):
> http://teachingcommons.cdl.edu/access/resources/MobileDeveloperResources.sh
> tml
> * Universal Mind blog post:
> http://www.universalmind.com/blog/user-experience/apps-for-everyone-part-2-
> strategies-for-accessibility-in-ios/
> * A course from SSB BART Group on "iOS Mobile Accessibility for
> Developers":
> http://info.ssbbartgroup.com/MobileAccessibilityCurriculum-iOSForDevelopers
> .html
> * W3 on Mobile Accessibility:
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Mobile_Accessibility
> * MediaWiki ­ Accessibility Guide for Developers:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility_guide_for_developers
>
>
> General iOS accessibility:
>
> Note: Look here for features you want included in your app design.
> Accommodations for other disabilities, not just visual, are listed as well.
>
> * Apple: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
> * Apple http://www.apple.com/ios/accessibility-tips/
> * Apple ­ Use Accessibility Features :
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204390
> * Apple ­ What's new in iOS: http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/
>
> * Applevis
> http://www.applevis.com/guides/ios-miscellaneous-voiceover/intro-ios-access
> ibility-blind-and-low-vision-users
> * AppleVis and iOS 9 Accessibility:
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-assistive-technology-braille-ios-news-op
> inion/what-s-new-and-changed-ios-9-accessibility
> * iOS Access for All book: http://www.iosaccessbook.com
> <http://www.iosaccessbook.com/>;/
> * iOS 9 and Accessibility blog post:
> https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-9-and-accessibility-my-5-favorite-de
> tails/
> * Interactive Accessibility:
> http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/ios-accessibility
> * Interactive Accessibility ­ iOS & Android Screen Reader Gesture Cheat
> sheet (very cool cheat sheets):
> http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/mobile-screen-reader-gestures#
> .VvVmZHCUmyC
>
> If you'd like further assistance, please let me know. I'm happy to do what
> I can. And, truthfully, I'm not a coder (I have web dev experience), but
> I'm curious about it myself.
>
> Mike Bicknell
>
>
>
>
> On 3/29/16, 1:05 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Mike Barlow"
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
>> process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
>> developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
>> together.
>>
>> Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread,
>> but
>> while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
>> Android development?
>>
>> *Mike Barlow*
>> Web Application Developer
>> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>>
>> Lancaster, Pa 17601
>> Office: 732.784.3047
>> Cell: 732.682.8226
>> e-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kelly,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
>>> creating
>>> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will be
>>> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
>>> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and deaf-blindness.
>>> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
>>> accessible
>>> and not so user-friendly.
>>>
>>> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
>>> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
>>> time
>>> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y and
>>> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine. Who
>>> knows what will be needed in the future?)
>>>
>>> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding iOS
>>> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
>>> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
>>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = on behalf of = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
>>> website/mobile
>>>> app development company and is working with at least one client in the
>>>> accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I have
>>>> some idea of what to tell him?
>>>>
>>>> Kelly
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell
>>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello -
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
>>> groups
>>>>> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps? Currently,
>>> iOS
>>>>> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would
>>> be
>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Bicknell
>>>>> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
>>>>> Washington State School for the Blind
>>>>> Office: 360-947-3331
>>>>> Main: 360-947-3300
>>>>> Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>>>> WSSB Distance Learning:
>>>>> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
>>>>> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
>>>>> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
>>> site):
>>>>> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >> >
> > > >