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From: Tim Harshbarger
Date: Mon, Aug 26 2002 4:28PM
Subject: Table Headings
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Hi,

I need advice on how best to accomplish something.

Basically, this web page includes a very lengthy table. When the user
scrolls down the page, this causes the table headings to scroll off the
visible page. Is there a way to keep the table headings static while
allowing the rest of the content to scroll. I think there may be a way to
do this with CSS, but I am not 100% certain how best to accomplish this.

Right now, the proposed solution is an accessibility nightmare. Basically,
they are wanting to have 2 separate tables. The first one containing the
headings and the second one containing the contents of the table. The
heading part of the table will be made part of a frame. Yikes!!!

Any help is appreciated immensely!

Tim

From: Diane Boettcher
Date: Mon, Aug 19 2002 11:39AM
Subject: Re: Table Headings
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What I often do in these cases is to include header
rows in the middle of the table. Find a place to
separate the data a bit and include the header
information again.

I've never thought long and hard about the
accessibility implications of this, so would be
interested in any feedback.

The other option that comes to mind is to use CSS and
fix the position of the headers as "absolute" - but
realize that you're not going to help those pesky NS4
users.

--- Tim Harshbarger
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need advice on how best to accomplish something.
>
> Basically, this web page includes a very lengthy
> table. When the user
> scrolls down the page, this causes the table
> headings to scroll off the
> visible page. Is there a way to keep the table
> headings static while
> allowing the rest of the content to scroll

====Diane Boettcher
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- Jakob Nielsen

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From: Tim Harshbarger
Date: Mon, Aug 26 2002 4:37PM
Subject: RE: Table Headings
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That is something I did forget to mention. This is an intranet site.
Basically, the browser will be IE 6.0.


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Subject: Re: Table Headings


What I often do in these cases is to include header
rows in the middle of the table. Find a place to
separate the data a bit and include the header
information again.

I've never thought long and hard about the
accessibility implications of this, so would be
interested in any feedback.

The other option that comes to mind is to use CSS and
fix the position of the headers as "absolute" - but
realize that you're not going to help those pesky NS4
users.

--- Tim Harshbarger
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need advice on how best to accomplish something.
>
> Basically, this web page includes a very lengthy
> table. When the user
> scrolls down the page, this causes the table
> headings to scroll off the
> visible page. Is there a way to keep the table
> headings static while
> allowing the rest of the content to scroll

====Diane Boettcher
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Help Afgan women at: http://www.rawa.org/
"Losing money is the worst guideline violation of them all."
- Jakob Nielsen

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From: Steve Vosloo
Date: Mon, Aug 19 2002 11:52PM
Subject: RE: Table Headings
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I'm no expert on making complex tables accessible, but I think
separating the headers out and placing them in a different frame is
really not going to help accessibility at all -- it'll only help those
users with 20/20 vision. The idea is to associate each data cell with a
header(s) -- and that is only done by referencing headers in the same
table. So I think you'll have to declare headers on your main table
anyway.

Steve




-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Harshbarger [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: 19 August 2002 09:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Table Headings



That is something I did forget to mention. This is an intranet site.
Basically, the browser will be IE 6.0.


-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 1:31 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: Table Headings


What I often do in these cases is to include header
rows in the middle of the table. Find a place to
separate the data a bit and include the header
information again.

I've never thought long and hard about the
accessibility implications of this, so would be
interested in any feedback.

The other option that comes to mind is to use CSS and
fix the position of the headers as "absolute" - but
realize that you're not going to help those pesky NS4
users.

--- Tim Harshbarger
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need advice on how best to accomplish something.
>
> Basically, this web page includes a very lengthy
> table. When the user
> scrolls down the page, this causes the table
> headings to scroll off the
> visible page. Is there a way to keep the table
> headings static while
> allowing the rest of the content to scroll

=====
Diane Boettcher
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Help Afgan women at: http://www.rawa.org/
"Losing money is the worst guideline violation of them all."
- Jakob Nielsen

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