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From: Peter Shikli
Date: Thu, Apr 27 2017 3:07PM
Subject: Sample Inaccessible PDFs
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I'm teaching PDF accessibility and could use some sample PDF documents
with interesting teachable inaccessibility examples. Ideal would be an
inaccessible pdf with its corrected version, included within it notes on
the errors.

I'd like to give such a pdf to a student, give her a shot at analysis and
repair, and then go over the results of the exercise.

Cheers,
Peter

From: Angela French
Date: Thu, Apr 27 2017 3:09PM
Subject: Re: Sample Inaccessible PDFs
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Unfortunately, I could probably share many, but I better not. :-(

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I'm teaching PDF accessibility and could use some sample PDF documents with interesting teachable inaccessibility examples. Ideal would be an inaccessible pdf with its corrected version, included within it notes on the errors.

I'd like to give such a pdf to a student, give her a shot at analysis and repair, and then go over the results of the exercise.

Cheers,
Peter

From: Krista Greear
Date: Fri, Apr 28 2017 10:20AM
Subject: Re: Sample Inaccessible PDFs
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I keep a collection just for this purpose! See the Dropbox link with 18 files<https://www.dropbox.com/s/unu8vgsm2xp88da/inaccessible%20PDF%20examples.zip?dl=0>.





KRISTA GREEAR

Assistant Director

Disability Resources for Students



011 Mary Gates Hall

Box 352808

Seattle, WA 98195-2808

Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.8924

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Subject: [WebAIM] Sample Inaccessible PDFs



I'm teaching PDF accessibility and could use some sample PDF documents with interesting teachable inaccessibility examples. Ideal would be an inaccessible pdf with its corrected version, included within it notes on the errors.



I'd like to give such a pdf to a student, give her a shot at analysis and repair, and then go over the results of the exercise.



Cheers,

Peter

From: Peter Shikli
Date: Fri, Apr 28 2017 6:04PM
Subject: Re: Sample Inaccessible PDFs
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Krista,
Whereas one of your dropbox files was a true PDF with tag markup, the
rest were images only inside a PDF container -- unless I missed
something. With the images-only files, I can't ask my students to go
through tutorials like WebAIM's
<http://webaim.org/techniques/acrobat/acrobat>; as exercises to check and
fix accessibility. That's the kind of practice they need.
Cheers,
Peter

Krista Greear wrote on 4/28/2017 9:20 AM:
>
> I keep a collection just for this purpose! See the Dropbox link with
> 18 files
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/unu8vgsm2xp88da/inaccessible%20PDF%20examples.zip?dl=0>.
>
>
> KRISTA GREEAR
>
> Assistant Director
>
> Disability Resources for Students
>
> 011 Mary Gates Hall
>
> Box 352808
>
> Seattle, WA 98195-2808
>
> Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.8924
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = / http://disability.uw.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Peter Shikli
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 2:08 PM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Subject: [WebAIM] Sample Inaccessible PDFs
>
> I'm teaching PDF accessibility and could use some sample PDF
> documents with interesting teachable inaccessibility examples. Ideal
> would be an inaccessible pdf with its corrected version, included
> within it notes on the errors.
>
> I'd like to give such a pdf to a student, give her a shot at analysis
> and repair, and then go over the results of the exercise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
> >
> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>
> > <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>

From: Peter Shikli
Date: Fri, Apr 28 2017 6:44PM
Subject: Re: Sample Inaccessible PDFs
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Krista,

You're indeed right about OCR being a big job and sometimes the first
step in making PDFs accessible. We are lucky in that the inmates, yes
I'm training accessibility to prison inmates, already have an
affordable, nearby scanning and OCR operation that I can turn to for
that. Unfortunately, OCR doesn't introduce the tags I'd like my
students to have to dig through.

Sincerely,
Peter Shikli
Web4VI
A Division of Bizware Online Applications, Inc.
29030 SW Town Center Loop East
Suite 202-187
Wilsonville, OR 97070
503-570-6831 - = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Cell: 949-677-3705
FAX: 213-337-7029
www.web4vi.com
Prison inmates helping the visually impaired


Krista Greear wrote on 4/28/2017 5:27 PM:
>
> I didn't understand you were looking for a specific kind of
> inaccessible PDFs.
>
> I shared a series of image-based PDFs, realistic documents that many
> of us encounter in higher ed. WebAIM's webpage assumes you are
> starting with a text-based PDF. This could be setting a false
> expectation. Optical Character Recognition (OCR) can be a large part
> of the remediation process and is certainly a necessary first step in
> remediating image-based PDFs. After that, tags, headings, tables, etc.
> can be addressed.
>
> What you could do is use the files I gave you, have your student use
> Adobe Acrobat Pro's built-in OCR engine to make a text-based file,
> then complete the exercises on WebAIM's webpage. Or use an OCR engine
> like ABBYY FineReader or OmniPage to turn the image PDF into a
> text-based one, then complete the exercises.
>
> Sounds like a lot of work? You are completely right. Document
> remediation is not for the faint of heart.
>
> I would strongly argue that teaching someone about OCR is imperative.
> While it may not be the bulkiest step in the process, OCR can become
> one of the most time consuming parts. My employee spent 3 hours OCRing
> the attached 32 page PDF, then had to pass it off to another team
> member to remediate the headings, tables, tags, etc.
>
> Take luck!
>
> *KRISTA GREEAR*
>
> Assistant Director
>
> Disability Resources for Students
>
> 011 Mary Gates Hall
>
> Box 352808
> Seattle, WA 98195-2808
>
> Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.8924
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >/ http://disability.uw.edu
> <http://disability.uw.edu/>;__
>
> *From:*Peter Shikli [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 5:04 PM
> *To:* Krista Greear < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >; WebAIM Discussion List
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> *Subject:* Re: [WebAIM] Sample Inaccessible PDFs
>
> Krista,
> Whereas one of your dropbox files was a true PDF with tag markup, the
> rest were images only inside a PDF container -- unless I missed
> something. With the images-only files, I can't ask my students to go
> through tutorials like WebAIM's
> <http://webaim.org/techniques/acrobat/acrobat>; as exercises to check
> and fix accessibility. That's the kind of practice they need.
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> Krista Greear wrote on 4/28/2017 9:20 AM:
>
> I keep a collection just for this purpose! See the Dropbox link
> with 18 files
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/unu8vgsm2xp88da/inaccessible%20PDF%20examples.zip?dl=0>.
>
>
> KRISTA GREEAR
>
> Assistant Director
>
> Disability Resources for Students
>
> 011 Mary Gates Hall
>
> Box 352808
>
> Seattle, WA 98195-2808
>
> Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.8924
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = / <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = /> http://disability.uw.edu
> <http://disability.uw.edu>;
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> On Behalf Of Peter Shikli
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 2:08 PM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] Sample Inaccessible PDFs
>
> I'm teaching PDF accessibility and could use some sample PDF
> documents with interesting teachable inaccessibility examples.
> Ideal would be an inaccessible pdf with its corrected version,
> included within it notes on the errors.
>
> I'd like to give such a pdf to a student, give her a shot at
> analysis and repair, and then go over the results of the exercise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
> >
> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>
> > <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>

From: Peter Shikli
Date: Fri, Apr 28 2017 8:27PM
Subject: Re: Sample Inaccessible PDFs
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Krista,

These are great. Besides digging for tags, they even have accessibility
story content worth the students' attention.

With accessibility the topic, there probably are not many accessibility
mistakes to correct in the PDFs. Perhaps I will sneak some in. Even
better, I will ask them to sneak them in, and then see if their
colleagues can find/fix them.

If you come across PDFs with forms and tables, those would be
particularly interesting.

Thanks,
Peter


Krista Greear wrote on 4/28/2017 6:04 PM:
>
> If I had known you were looking for tagged text selectable PDFs, I
> would have saved my OCR sermon for another unsuspecting listserv
> question ;-)
>
> Try these 4. They are tagged, text selectable PDFs. I haven't verified
> how inaccessible/accessible they are but there are some good variety
> within the tags like story, section, article, link, span, and so on.
>
> *KRISTA GREEAR*
>
> Assistant Director
>
> Disability Resources for Students
>
> 011 Mary Gates Hall
>
> Box 352808
> Seattle, WA 98195-2808
>
> Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.8924
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >/ http://disability.uw.edu
> <http://disability.uw.edu/>;__
>
> *From:*Peter Shikli [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 5:44 PM
> *To:* Krista Greear < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >; WebAIM Discussion List
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> *Subject:* Re: [WebAIM] Sample Inaccessible PDFs
>
> Krista,
>
> You're indeed right about OCR being a big job and sometimes the first
> step in making PDFs accessible. We are lucky in that the inmates, yes
> I'm training accessibility to prison inmates, already have an
> affordable, nearby scanning and OCR operation that I can turn to for
> that. Unfortunately, OCR doesn't introduce the tags I'd like my
> students to have to dig through.
>
> Sincerely,
> Peter Shikli
> Web4VI
> A Division of Bizware Online Applications, Inc.
> 29030 SW Town Center Loop East
> Suite 202-187
> Wilsonville, OR 97070
> 503-570-6831 - = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Cell: 949-677-3705
> FAX: 213-337-7029
> www.web4vi.com <http://www.web4vi.com>;
> Prison inmates helping the visually impaired
>
> Krista Greear wrote on 4/28/2017 5:27 PM:
>
> I didn't understand you were looking for a specific kind of
> inaccessible PDFs.
>
> I shared a series of image-based PDFs, realistic documents that
> many of us encounter in higher ed. WebAIM's webpage assumes you
> are starting with a text-based PDF. This could be setting a false
> expectation. Optical Character Recognition (OCR) can be a large
> part of the remediation process and is certainly a necessary first
> step in remediating image-based PDFs. After that, tags, headings,
> tables, etc. can be addressed.
>
> What you could do is use the files I gave you, have your student
> use Adobe Acrobat Pro's built-in OCR engine to make a text-based
> file, then complete the exercises on WebAIM's webpage. Or use an
> OCR engine like ABBYY FineReader or OmniPage to turn the image PDF
> into a text-based one, then complete the exercises.
>
> Sounds like a lot of work? You are completely right. Document
> remediation is not for the faint of heart.
>
> I would strongly argue that teaching someone about OCR is
> imperative. While it may not be the bulkiest step in the process,
> OCR can become one of the most time consuming parts. My employee
> spent 3 hours OCRing the attached 32 page PDF, then had to pass it
> off to another team member to remediate the headings, tables,
> tags, etc.
>
> Take luck!
>
> *KRISTA GREEAR*
>
> Assistant Director
>
> Disability Resources for Students
>
> 011 Mary Gates Hall
>
> Box 352808
> Seattle, WA 98195-2808
>
> Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.8924
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >/ http://disability.uw.edu
> <http://disability.uw.edu/>;__
>
> *From:*Peter Shikli [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 5:04 PM
> *To:* Krista Greear < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >;
> WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> *Subject:* Re: [WebAIM] Sample Inaccessible PDFs
>
> Krista,
> Whereas one of your dropbox files was a true PDF with tag markup,
> the rest were images only inside a PDF container -- unless I
> missed something. With the images-only files, I can't ask my
> students to go through tutorials like WebAIM's
> <http://webaim.org/techniques/acrobat/acrobat>; as exercises to
> check and fix accessibility. That's the kind of practice they need.
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> Krista Greear wrote on 4/28/2017 9:20 AM:
>
> I keep a collection just for this purpose! See the Dropbox
> link with 18 files
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/unu8vgsm2xp88da/inaccessible%20PDF%20examples.zip?dl=0>.
>
>
> KRISTA GREEAR
>
> Assistant Director
>
> Disability Resources for Students
>
> 011 Mary Gates Hall
>
> Box 352808
>
> Seattle, WA 98195-2808
>
> Direct: 206.221.4136 / Main: 206.543.8924
>
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = / <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = />
> http://disability.uw.edu <http://disability.uw.edu>;
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of
> Peter Shikli
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 2:08 PM
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] Sample Inaccessible PDFs
>
> I'm teaching PDF accessibility and could use some sample PDF
> documents with interesting teachable inaccessibility
> examples. Ideal would be an inaccessible pdf with its
> corrected version, included within it notes on the errors.
>
> I'd like to give such a pdf to a student, give her a shot at
> analysis and repair, and then go over the results of the exercise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
> >
> > >
> > <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>