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From: Jonathan H
Date: Sat, Apr 29 2017 12:43AM
Subject: Background music autoplaying?
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Can someone please let me know how screenreader users handle background
music?
Am I missing something, or does this page not obliterate screenreader
output and make it difficult to navigate?
http://play-back.org.uk/April2017.html
From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Sat, Apr 29 2017 1:28AM
Subject: Re: Background music autoplaying?
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Hello,
It sure makes hearing the screen reader difficult. If the music was a
little fuller than a flute, then I would not be able to hear my screen
reader at all.
I really hate pages that start audio and don't have an obvious way of
pausing the audio at the start of the page.
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Jonathan H < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Can someone please let me know how screenreader users handle background
> music?
>
> Am I missing something, or does this page not obliterate screenreader
> output and make it difficult to navigate?
>
> http://play-back.org.uk/April2017.html
> > > > >
From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Sat, Apr 29 2017 3:34AM
Subject: Re: Background music autoplaying?
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On 29/04/2017 08:28, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
> Hello,
> It sure makes hearing the screen reader difficult. If the music was a
> little fuller than a flute, then I would not be able to hear my screen
> reader at all.
> I really hate pages that start audio and don't have an obvious way of
> pausing the audio at the start of the page.
> Thanks,
See also WCAG 2.0 SC 1.4.2 Audio Control
https://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/visual-audio-contrast-dis-audio.html
But in general, if you can avoid having autoplaying audio/music in the
first place, that'd be best.
P
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From: Jonathan H
Date: Sat, Apr 29 2017 5:08AM
Subject: Re: Background music autoplaying?
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On 29 April 2017 at 10:34, Patrick H. Lauke < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> But in general, if you can avoid having autoplaying audio/music in the first
> place, that'd be best.
Well, that's what I thought.
This post came from a conversation where a screenreader user said that
if I as I was contacting this organisation anyway, could I mention
that their autoplay makes it difficult for screenreader users, as he
had tried to contact them and go no reply. So I tried it myself, found
the same, mentioned it as part of my email, and got pretty short
shrift in reply!
The person I was speaking to who brought this to my attention uses IE
and Jaws on Windows 7. There is a recording below I just made on my
own Windows 10 PC - the first 15 seconds is what I hear with
Chromevox, the remainder of the minute is with Firefox and NVDA.
https://goo.gl/4KrvT1
The reason I posted here was in case me and screenreader user were
doing something wrong.
Looking at the page code, it looks like it is a microsoft embedded
plugin so it might be Mac users that don't get autoplay - all the
controls, visibility and so on are hidden, and the audio is set to
autoplay in the background on page load, so I cannot see any way that
a user could stop the playback.
Thanks.
From: JP Jamous
Date: Sat, Apr 29 2017 1:18PM
Subject: Re: Background music auto playing?
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You cannot take SR users in consideration only. What about if I am fully sighted in an office setting and I load that page. The music starts playing and it gets heard by my boss and teammates. In fact, it might be so loud on my end that it scares some folks. What did you achieve with background music at that point?
I will be so quick to close the page, because it is in the foreground. The same would apply to SR users. If it were me, I would alt + F4 out of it or CTRL + W to close the tab. I won't visit that site again even if it has something I want.
I just gave you my user experience because the guys on here spoke enough about WCAG. Always keep in mind your audience and how you might make their user experience on your site. If UX designers pay attention to that part, they would eliminate so many WCAG failures. That's what my years of experience taught me.
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jonathan H
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 1:43 AM
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Subject: [WebAIM] Background music autoplaying?
Can someone please let me know how screenreader users handle background music?
Am I missing something, or does this page not obliterate screenreader output and make it difficult to navigate?
http://play-back.org.uk/April2017.html
From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Sun, Apr 30 2017 4:53PM
Subject: Re: Background music autoplaying?
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It's my understanding that Chrome has a hidden feature to mute tabs http://www.omgchrome.com/how-to-enable-tab-mute-chrome-feature/. There are also extensions that add a keyboard shortcut to enable this. I haven't tried this extension but this popped-up when I Googled muting tabs https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mute-tab-shortcuts/opcjanmpjbdbdpnjfjbboacibokblbhl?hl=en
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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jonathan H
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:09 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Background music autoplaying?
On 29 April 2017 at 10:34, Patrick H. Lauke < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> But in general, if you can avoid having autoplaying audio/music in the
> first place, that'd be best.
Well, that's what I thought.
This post came from a conversation where a screenreader user said that if I as I was contacting this organisation anyway, could I mention that their autoplay makes it difficult for screenreader users, as he had tried to contact them and go no reply. So I tried it myself, found the same, mentioned it as part of my email, and got pretty short shrift in reply!
The person I was speaking to who brought this to my attention uses IE and Jaws on Windows 7. There is a recording below I just made on my own Windows 10 PC - the first 15 seconds is what I hear with Chromevox, the remainder of the minute is with Firefox and NVDA.
https://goo.gl/4KrvT1
The reason I posted here was in case me and screenreader user were doing something wrong.
Looking at the page code, it looks like it is a microsoft embedded plugin so it might be Mac users that don't get autoplay - all the controls, visibility and so on are hidden, and the audio is set to autoplay in the background on page load, so I cannot see any way that a user could stop the playback.
Thanks.