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From: Mike Warner
Date: Tue, Jun 20 2017 10:08AM
Subject: up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
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Hi all,

anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't
navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was
testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the
arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same
thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?

Thanks,
Mike

Mike Warner
Director of IT Services
MindEdge, Inc.

From: Pratik Patel
Date: Tue, Jun 20 2017 10:18AM
Subject: Re: up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
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Due to a long-standing bug in Firefox, NVDA goes into focus mode upon launch if Firefox has the primary focus. This essentially means that you can only navigate by using tab and shift+tab keys. To prevent this, make sure that an application other than Firefox has focus when you start NVDA. Restarting Firefox when NVDA is running also resolves this issue.

Regards,

Pratik Patel
Pratik Patel
Founder & CEO, EZFire


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Subject: [WebAIM] up/down arrow navigation in NVDA

Hi all,

anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't
navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was
testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the
arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same
thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?

Thanks,
Mike

Mike Warner
Director of IT Services
MindEdge, Inc.

From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Tue, Jun 20 2017 10:20AM
Subject: Re: up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
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Hello,
Exit out of edit mode with NVDA+space.
Otherwise press F6 twice and see if that helps. Sometimes Firefox stops
working right and you need to restart it.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Mike Warner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't
> navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was
> testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the
> arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same
> thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Mike Warner
> Director of IT Services
> MindEdge, Inc.
> > > > >

From: Mike Warner
Date: Tue, Jun 20 2017 12:17PM
Subject: Re: up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
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Thanks, everyone. Restarting Firefox did the trick.

My next question is how to get the focus on a <button> element when
navigating with the up and down arrows. The button is not in a form. The
buttons in the forms get the focus a expected.

Thanks again,
Mike

Mike Warner
Director of IT Services
MindEdge, Inc.
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> Hi all,
>
> anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't
> navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was
> testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the
> arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same
> thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Mike Warner
> Director of IT Services
> MindEdge, Inc.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:18:54 -0400
> From: "Pratik Patel" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
> Message-ID: <09eb01d2e9e0$e9cdcb10$bd696130$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Due to a long-standing bug in Firefox, NVDA goes into focus mode upon
> launch if Firefox has the primary focus. This essentially means that you
> can only navigate by using tab and shift+tab keys. To prevent this, make
> sure that an application other than Firefox has focus when you start NVDA.
> Restarting Firefox when NVDA is running also resolves this issue.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pratik Patel
> Pratik Patel
> Founder & CEO, EZFire
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> Behalf Of Mike Warner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:09 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: [WebAIM] up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
>
> Hi all,
>
> anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't
> navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was
> testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the
> arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same
> thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Mike Warner
> Director of IT Services
> MindEdge, Inc.
> > > > >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 09:20:23 -0700
> From: Brandon Keith Biggs < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
> Message-ID:
> <CAKAWQkUPF9OrOure6ULrXn1v2MNSPr_J_d7wwpJggF279U1auA@mail.
> gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hello,
> Exit out of edit mode with NVDA+space.
> Otherwise press F6 twice and see if that helps. Sometimes Firefox stops
> working right and you need to restart it.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Mike Warner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't
> > navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was
> > testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the
> > arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same
> > thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Warner
> > Director of IT Services
> > MindEdge, Inc.
> > > > > > > > > >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>

From: Mallory
Date: Sat, Jun 24 2017 7:02AM
Subject: Re: up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
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Yeah I get this regularly and I just play around with focus/browse mode
back and forth until my keys work again.

I usually notice this by trying to get into the page's first heading and
instead hear "h". Toggling modes often fixes it.

cheers,

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017, at 06:20 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
> Hello,
> Exit out of edit mode with NVDA+space.
> Otherwise press F6 twice and see if that helps. Sometimes Firefox stops
> working right and you need to restart it.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Mike Warner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't
> > navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was
> > testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the
> > arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same
> > thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Warner
> > Director of IT Services
> > MindEdge, Inc.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >

From: Mallory
Date: Sat, Jun 24 2017 7:08AM
Subject: Re: up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
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with NVDA, I seem to get browser focus on any focusable I run into as I
arrow.
I don't go into focus mode, I just see the outline dots and hitting
enter seems to work.

cheers,

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017, at 08:17 PM, Mike Warner wrote:
> Thanks, everyone. Restarting Firefox did the trick.
>
> My next question is how to get the focus on a <button> element when
> navigating with the up and down arrows. The button is not in a form.
> The
> buttons in the forms get the focus a expected.
>
> Thanks again,
> Mike
>
> Mike Warner
> Director of IT Services
> MindEdge, Inc.
> ------------------------------
>
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:08:55 -0400
> > From: Mike Warner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: [WebAIM] up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAD8NTJ80THDRDRhkUg-7WNSXs3Gf-YsbwHmGUqsN_P_
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't
> > navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was
> > testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the
> > arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same
> > thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Warner
> > Director of IT Services
> > MindEdge, Inc.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:18:54 -0400
> > From: "Pratik Patel" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
> > Message-ID: <09eb01d2e9e0$e9cdcb10$bd696130$@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Due to a long-standing bug in Firefox, NVDA goes into focus mode upon
> > launch if Firefox has the primary focus. This essentially means that you
> > can only navigate by using tab and shift+tab keys. To prevent this, make
> > sure that an application other than Firefox has focus when you start NVDA.
> > Restarting Firefox when NVDA is running also resolves this issue.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pratik Patel
> > Pratik Patel
> > Founder & CEO, EZFire
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On
> > Behalf Of Mike Warner
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:09 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: [WebAIM] up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't
> > navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was
> > testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the
> > arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same
> > thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Warner
> > Director of IT Services
> > MindEdge, Inc.
> > > > > > > > > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 09:20:23 -0700
> > From: Brandon Keith Biggs < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAKAWQkUPF9OrOure6ULrXn1v2MNSPr_J_d7wwpJggF279U1auA@mail.
> > gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Hello,
> > Exit out of edit mode with NVDA+space.
> > Otherwise press F6 twice and see if that helps. Sometimes Firefox stops
> > working right and you need to restart it.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Mike Warner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't
> > > navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was
> > > testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the
> > > arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same
> > > thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mike Warner
> > > Director of IT Services
> > > MindEdge, Inc.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> > > >

From: J Isaac
Date: Sun, Jun 25 2017 1:19PM
Subject: Re: up/down arrow navigation in NVDA
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If the screen reader is shifting into focus mode, toggling the mode (NVDA key+spacebar) should put you back into browse mode and your navigation should be restored.

HTH,
== J

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Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 9:09 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: [WebAIM] up/down arrow navigation in NVDA

Hi all,

anyone else experience issues where you sometimes can and sometimes can't navigate a page using the up and down arrows in NVDA and Firefox? I was testing something today and the same page worked fine before, but now the arrows make the page scroll. I also went to a WebAIM page and the same thing happened. Is there a setting in NVDA that I need to adjust?

Thanks,
Mike

Mike Warner
Director of IT Services
MindEdge, Inc.