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From: reinhard.stebner@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Nov 15 2018 5:07PM
Subject: objective testing for applicants
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I am currently helping Makpar fill a couple of accessibility roles. As part
of this process, they would like to have the applicants complete a base
knowledge set test to help their decision process. Do you have any good
ideas on where they could get or look for a tool that will give them a good
understanding if their applicants truly understand Web accessibility? Do you
think these types of tools truly help locate qualified individuals? Thank
you very much for your help with this question and the previous guidance on
how to locate qualified applicants.

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Thu, Nov 15 2018 5:28PM
Subject: Re: objective testing for applicants
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Hi Reinhard, part of the Trusted Tester certification is to test a site with known accessibility errors and have the tester complete an activity to properly locate and identify the errors with the correct tests. For a developer activity an exercise could be to remediate accessiblity issues.

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Subject: [WebAIM] objective testing for applicants

I am currently helping Makpar fill a couple of accessibility roles. As part of this process, they would like to have the applicants complete a base knowledge set test to help their decision process. Do you have any good ideas on where they could get or look for a tool that will give them a good understanding if their applicants truly understand Web accessibility? Do you think these types of tools truly help locate qualified individuals? Thank you very much for your help with this question and the previous guidance on how to locate qualified applicants.

From: JP Jamous
Date: Fri, Nov 16 2018 6:42AM
Subject: Re: objective testing for applicants
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Tools, tools, tools. Every company wants to automate the process. Smiles.

There is more to a candidate than just the WCAG skills.

What is the job description?
Will the candidate be working with clients?
What is that candidates collaboration skills are?
What about his professional speaking and writing skills?
Is the candidate able to handle customer service, because he or she will be
dealing with the client whether while providing a report or consultation
throughout the SDLC?
Is the candidate willing to put his or her ego at the door and work with
peers in a collaborative manner?

All of those personal traits and much more are not looked at carefully when
looking for any employee especially in this area, because the supply is
scarce.

I interviewed multiple candidates throughout my career and found not not to
be fit to represent me or my team. Some of them had outstanding WCAG and
development skills, but that was it. Professional skills were terrible.

I would suggest you look at the whole package and not just focus on a tool
that would assess the candidate's WCAG or technical knowledge. That is the
easy part. Through a quick interview, you can identify if the candidate is
qualified or not. Yet, to know the personality of that candidate is quite
hard, because some are good at concealing that during an interview.

Just food for thought.



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Subject: [WebAIM] objective testing for applicants

I am currently helping Makpar fill a couple of accessibility roles. As part
of this process, they would like to have the applicants complete a base
knowledge set test to help their decision process. Do you have any good
ideas on where they could get or look for a tool that will give them a good
understanding if their applicants truly understand Web accessibility? Do you
think these types of tools truly help locate qualified individuals? Thank
you very much for your help with this question and the previous guidance on
how to locate qualified applicants.

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From: Reinhard Stebner
Date: Fri, Nov 16 2018 7:54AM
Subject: Re: objective testing for applicants
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What do you think of me FAE Web evaluator and how does this compare to Wave? How does this compare with WAVE

From: Reinhard Stebner
Date: Fri, Nov 16 2018 8:00AM
Subject: Re: objective testing for applicants
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Yes, this does make a lot of sense. The folks who are interviewing for want a consistent way to evaluate people coming through the door to make sure that they have bass accessibility skill sets.

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> On Nov 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Tools, tools, tools. Every company wants to automate the process. Smiles.
>
> There is more to a candidate than just the WCAG skills.
>
> What is the job description?
> Will the candidate be working with clients?
> What is that candidates collaboration skills are?
> What about his professional speaking and writing skills?
> Is the candidate able to handle customer service, because he or she will be
> dealing with the client whether while providing a report or consultation
> throughout the SDLC?
> Is the candidate willing to put his or her ego at the door and work with
> peers in a collaborative manner?
>
> All of those personal traits and much more are not looked at carefully when
> looking for any employee especially in this area, because the supply is
> scarce.
>
> I interviewed multiple candidates throughout my career and found not not to
> be fit to represent me or my team. Some of them had outstanding WCAG and
> development skills, but that was it. Professional skills were terrible.
>
> I would suggest you look at the whole package and not just focus on a tool
> that would assess the candidate's WCAG or technical knowledge. That is the
> easy part. Through a quick interview, you can identify if the candidate is
> qualified or not. Yet, to know the personality of that candidate is quite
> hard, because some are good at concealing that during an interview.
>
> Just food for thought.
>
>
>
> --------------------
> JP Jamous
> Senior Digital Accessibility Engineer
> E-Mail Me |Join My LinkedIn Network
> --------------------
>
>
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> Subject: [WebAIM] objective testing for applicants
>
> I am currently helping Makpar fill a couple of accessibility roles. As part
> of this process, they would like to have the applicants complete a base
> knowledge set test to help their decision process. Do you have any good
> ideas on where they could get or look for a tool that will give them a good
> understanding if their applicants truly understand Web accessibility? Do you
> think these types of tools truly help locate qualified individuals? Thank
> you very much for your help with this question and the previous guidance on
> how to locate qualified applicants.
>
> > > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
> > > >

From: Ugurcan Kutluoglu
Date: Fri, Nov 16 2018 10:58AM
Subject: Re: objective testing for applicants
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I recently stumbled on these accessibility interview questions by Scott
O'Hara. Might be helpful.

https://github.com/scottaohara/accessibility_interview_questions

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 7:00 AM Reinhard Stebner < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:

> Yes, this does make a lot of sense. The folks who are interviewing for
> want a consistent way to evaluate people coming through the door to make
> sure that they have bass accessibility skill sets.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, JP Jamous < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > Tools, tools, tools. Every company wants to automate the process. Smiles.
> >
> > There is more to a candidate than just the WCAG skills.
> >
> > What is the job description?
> > Will the candidate be working with clients?
> > What is that candidates collaboration skills are?
> > What about his professional speaking and writing skills?
> > Is the candidate able to handle customer service, because he or she will
> be
> > dealing with the client whether while providing a report or consultation
> > throughout the SDLC?
> > Is the candidate willing to put his or her ego at the door and work with
> > peers in a collaborative manner?
> >
> > All of those personal traits and much more are not looked at carefully
> when
> > looking for any employee especially in this area, because the supply is
> > scarce.
> >
> > I interviewed multiple candidates throughout my career and found not not
> to
> > be fit to represent me or my team. Some of them had outstanding WCAG and
> > development skills, but that was it. Professional skills were terrible.
> >
> > I would suggest you look at the whole package and not just focus on a
> tool
> > that would assess the candidate's WCAG or technical knowledge. That is
> the
> > easy part. Through a quick interview, you can identify if the candidate
> is
> > qualified or not. Yet, to know the personality of that candidate is quite
> > hard, because some are good at concealing that during an interview.
> >
> > Just food for thought.
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------
> > JP Jamous
> > Senior Digital Accessibility Engineer
> > E-Mail Me |Join My LinkedIn Network
> > --------------------
> >
> >
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> > Subject: [WebAIM] objective testing for applicants
> >
> > I am currently helping Makpar fill a couple of accessibility roles. As
> part
> > of this process, they would like to have the applicants complete a base
> > knowledge set test to help their decision process. Do you have any good
> > ideas on where they could get or look for a tool that will give them a
> good
> > understanding if their applicants truly understand Web accessibility? Do
> you
> > think these types of tools truly help locate qualified individuals? Thank
> > you very much for your help with this question and the previous guidance
> on
> > how to locate qualified applicants.
> >
> > > > > archives at
> > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >