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From: Jim Homme
Date: Wed, Mar 27 2019 11:43AM
Subject: MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output Accessibility
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Hi,
As a screen reader user, I want to do all I can to make Word docs accessible before I pass them on to my sighted coworkers. I thought it would help to use the accessibility checker to double check my work. Is the interface accessible or does it produce accessible output? The last time I checked, I couldn't use it.

Thanks.

Jim



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Jim Homme
Digital Accessibility
Bender Consulting Services
412-787-8567
https://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions

From: glen walker
Date: Wed, Mar 27 2019 2:37PM
Subject: Re: MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output Accessibility
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It's ok, but I don't find the accessibility checker to be that great.

To get to it, I use the shortcut: alt+f, i, i, a

After it runs, the results are in a new panel. You can use f6 to navigate
to each panel (landmark) in Word. The correct panel will say
"Accessibility Checker tool bar". The results uses groupings and trees.
The groupings are errors, warnings, and tips. The groupings don't say
they're expanded or collapsed but using spacebar or right arrow will expand
it, but it won't say it was just expanded or collapsed. When you open one
group, it opens them all. Kind of like an accordion except I've never seen
an accordion that will open every section when one section is opened.

Under each grouping is a tree with general issues and a list of elements
that have that issue. If you select an element from the tree, it gets
selected in your main document, but the focus remains in the accessibility
checker.

If you press tab after selecting an element in the tree, you get to the
"additional information" section of the checker which has some info on why
the issue is a problem.

You can press f6 until you get back to the main document to do something on
the selected element.

So the interface seems to be accessible. I can get to most everything with
a keyboard and stuff seems to be labeled with an accessible name.

Glen

From: Bim Egan
Date: Thu, Mar 28 2019 2:18AM
Subject: Re: MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output Accessibility
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That's brilliant! Thanks Glen,

As someone still struggling with ribbons and the odd names MS Word now uses
as labels, your practical description was a real relief.

Bim

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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output
Accessibility

It's ok, but I don't find the accessibility checker to be that great.

To get to it, I use the shortcut: alt+f, i, i, a

After it runs, the results are in a new panel. You can use f6 to navigate
to each panel (landmark) in Word. The correct panel will say "Accessibility
Checker tool bar". The results uses groupings and trees.
The groupings are errors, warnings, and tips. The groupings don't say
they're expanded or collapsed but using spacebar or right arrow will expand
it, but it won't say it was just expanded or collapsed. When you open one
group, it opens them all. Kind of like an accordion except I've never seen
an accordion that will open every section when one section is opened.

Under each grouping is a tree with general issues and a list of elements
that have that issue. If you select an element from the tree, it gets
selected in your main document, but the focus remains in the accessibility
checker.

If you press tab after selecting an element in the tree, you get to the
"additional information" section of the checker which has some info on why
the issue is a problem.

You can press f6 until you get back to the main document to do something on
the selected element.

So the interface seems to be accessible. I can get to most everything with
a keyboard and stuff seems to be labeled with an accessible name.

Glen
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From: Maxability
Date: Fri, Mar 29 2019 9:44AM
Subject: Re: MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output Accessibility
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In addition I like the quick find option. Press Alt + q and type
whatever you want, accessibility in this case. The accessibility checker
will be first option. When I do this I also found the Display alt text
panel, dint explore but may be worth looking at.

Rakesh


On 3/28/2019 1:48 PM, Bim Egan wrote:
> That's brilliant! Thanks Glen,
>
> As someone still struggling with ribbons and the odd names MS Word now uses
> as labels, your practical description was a real relief.
>
> Bim
>
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> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of glen walker
> Sent: 27 March 2019 20:38
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output
> Accessibility
>
> It's ok, but I don't find the accessibility checker to be that great.
>
> To get to it, I use the shortcut: alt+f, i, i, a
>
> After it runs, the results are in a new panel. You can use f6 to navigate
> to each panel (landmark) in Word. The correct panel will say "Accessibility
> Checker tool bar". The results uses groupings and trees.
> The groupings are errors, warnings, and tips. The groupings don't say
> they're expanded or collapsed but using spacebar or right arrow will expand
> it, but it won't say it was just expanded or collapsed. When you open one
> group, it opens them all. Kind of like an accordion except I've never seen
> an accordion that will open every section when one section is opened.
>
> Under each grouping is a tree with general issues and a list of elements
> that have that issue. If you select an element from the tree, it gets
> selected in your main document, but the focus remains in the accessibility
> checker.
>
> If you press tab after selecting an element in the tree, you get to the
> "additional information" section of the checker which has some info on why
> the issue is a problem.
>
> You can press f6 until you get back to the main document to do something on
> the selected element.
>
> So the interface seems to be accessible. I can get to most everything with
> a keyboard and stuff seems to be labeled with an accessible name.
>
> Glen
> > > http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
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From: Jim Homme
Date: Fri, Mar 29 2019 11:34AM
Subject: Re: MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output Accessibility
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Hi,
While you are in the tree, you can press ALT+DOWNArrow to get choices on what to do with the current item. I just tried a simple document that had a single error and a warning about contrast. I was able to easily make a piece of alt text this way, but, being a totally blind screen reader user, I did not mess with the contrast part, because I did not know if I could get hex or decimal numbers for colors, so I could do the math. If I could somehow, even using another tool, that would be great.

Thanks.

Jim



==========
Jim Homme
Digital Accessibility
Bender Consulting Services
412-787-8567
https://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions

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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:19 AM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output Accessibility

That's brilliant! Thanks Glen,

As someone still struggling with ribbons and the odd names MS Word now uses as labels, your practical description was a real relief.

Bim

-------------
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Personal Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Skype ID: bim.accessequals

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of glen walker
Sent: 27 March 2019 20:38
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output Accessibility

It's ok, but I don't find the accessibility checker to be that great.

To get to it, I use the shortcut: alt+f, i, i, a

After it runs, the results are in a new panel. You can use f6 to navigate to each panel (landmark) in Word. The correct panel will say "Accessibility Checker tool bar". The results uses groupings and trees.
The groupings are errors, warnings, and tips. The groupings don't say they're expanded or collapsed but using spacebar or right arrow will expand it, but it won't say it was just expanded or collapsed. When you open one group, it opens them all. Kind of like an accordion except I've never seen an accordion that will open every section when one section is opened.

Under each grouping is a tree with general issues and a list of elements that have that issue. If you select an element from the tree, it gets selected in your main document, but the focus remains in the accessibility checker.

If you press tab after selecting an element in the tree, you get to the "additional information" section of the checker which has some info on why the issue is a problem.

You can press f6 until you get back to the main document to do something on the selected element.

So the interface seems to be accessible. I can get to most everything with a keyboard and stuff seems to be labeled with an accessible name.

Glen
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From: Bim Egan
Date: Fri, Mar 29 2019 12:29PM
Subject: Re: MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output Accessibility
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Thanks Jim,

That's very useful too. Sorry I can't help about contrast, I can use a
screen magnifier to help me use a color contrast analyzer, so haven't tried
anything else. Perhaps others can help there.

Cheers,

Bim


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From: Jim Homme [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: 29 March 2019 17:34
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: RE: [WebAIM] MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output
Accessibility

Hi,
While you are in the tree, you can press ALT+DOWNArrow to get choices on
what to do with the current item. I just tried a simple document that had a
single error and a warning about contrast. I was able to easily make a piece
of alt text this way, but, being a totally blind screen reader user, I did
not mess with the contrast part, because I did not know if I could get hex
or decimal numbers for colors, so I could do the math. If I could somehow,
even using another tool, that would be great.

Thanks.

Jim



==========
Jim Homme
Digital Accessibility
Bender Consulting Services
412-787-8567
https://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-
solutions

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Bim
Egan
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:19 AM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output
Accessibility

That's brilliant! Thanks Glen,

As someone still struggling with ribbons and the odd names MS Word now uses
as labels, your practical description was a real relief.

Bim

-------------
Bim Egan
Skype phone: 01223 96 87 96
Personal Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Skype ID: bim.accessequals

Coordinator: Describe Online
W: www.describe-online.com
E: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
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Partner: AccessEquals
W: www.accessequals.com
E: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
Of glen walker
Sent: 27 March 2019 20:38
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output
Accessibility

It's ok, but I don't find the accessibility checker to be that great.

To get to it, I use the shortcut: alt+f, i, i, a

After it runs, the results are in a new panel. You can use f6 to navigate
to each panel (landmark) in Word. The correct panel will say "Accessibility
Checker tool bar". The results uses groupings and trees.
The groupings are errors, warnings, and tips. The groupings don't say
they're expanded or collapsed but using spacebar or right arrow will expand
it, but it won't say it was just expanded or collapsed. When you open one
group, it opens them all. Kind of like an accordion except I've never seen
an accordion that will open every section when one section is opened.

Under each grouping is a tree with general issues and a list of elements
that have that issue. If you select an element from the tree, it gets
selected in your main document, but the focus remains in the accessibility
checker.

If you press tab after selecting an element in the tree, you get to the
"additional information" section of the checker which has some info on why
the issue is a problem.

You can press f6 until you get back to the main document to do something on
the selected element.

So the interface seems to be accessible. I can get to most everything with
a keyboard and stuff seems to be labeled with an accessible name.

Glen
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From: Krista Greear
Date: Fri, Mar 29 2019 2:01PM
Subject: Re: MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output Accessibility
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I can't speak as a screen reader user but I know the checker has improved
with the latest versions of MS Office 365.

Also might be of interest - Microsoft has a dedicated answer desk
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/disability-answer-desk> for
accessibility product issues, accessibility questions and use of Assistive
technology (run by people with disabilities). Chat is available 24/7, phone
calls and video chat are a bit more limited in the open hours.

Krista

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:29 AM Bim Egan < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Thanks Jim,
>
> That's very useful too. Sorry I can't help about contrast, I can use a
> screen magnifier to help me use a color contrast analyzer, so haven't tried
> anything else. Perhaps others can help there.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bim
>
>
> -------------
> Bim Egan
> Skype phone: 01223 96 87 96
> Personal Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Skype ID: bim.accessequals
>
> Coordinator: Describe Online
> W: www.describe-online.com
> E: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> ----------------------------------------
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> W: www.accessequals.com
> E: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Homme [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: 29 March 2019 17:34
> To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: RE: [WebAIM] MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output
> Accessibility
>
> Hi,
> While you are in the tree, you can press ALT+DOWNArrow to get choices on
> what to do with the current item. I just tried a simple document that had a
> single error and a warning about contrast. I was able to easily make a
> piece
> of alt text this way, but, being a totally blind screen reader user, I did
> not mess with the contrast part, because I did not know if I could get hex
> or decimal numbers for colors, so I could do the math. If I could somehow,
> even using another tool, that would be great.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> =========> Jim Homme
> Digital Accessibility
> Bender Consulting Services
> 412-787-8567
>
> https://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-
> solutions
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Bim
> Egan
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:19 AM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output
> Accessibility
>
> That's brilliant! Thanks Glen,
>
> As someone still struggling with ribbons and the odd names MS Word now uses
> as labels, your practical description was a real relief.
>
> Bim
>
> -------------
> Bim Egan
> Skype phone: 01223 96 87 96
> Personal Email: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Skype ID: bim.accessequals
>
> Coordinator: Describe Online
> W: www.describe-online.com
> E: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> ----------------------------------------
> Partner: AccessEquals
> W: www.accessequals.com
> E: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of glen walker
> Sent: 27 March 2019 20:38
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] MS Office Accessibility Checker Interface and Output
> Accessibility
>
> It's ok, but I don't find the accessibility checker to be that great.
>
> To get to it, I use the shortcut: alt+f, i, i, a
>
> After it runs, the results are in a new panel. You can use f6 to navigate
> to each panel (landmark) in Word. The correct panel will say
> "Accessibility
> Checker tool bar". The results uses groupings and trees.
> The groupings are errors, warnings, and tips. The groupings don't say
> they're expanded or collapsed but using spacebar or right arrow will expand
> it, but it won't say it was just expanded or collapsed. When you open one
> group, it opens them all. Kind of like an accordion except I've never seen
> an accordion that will open every section when one section is opened.
>
> Under each grouping is a tree with general issues and a list of elements
> that have that issue. If you select an element from the tree, it gets
> selected in your main document, but the focus remains in the accessibility
> checker.
>
> If you press tab after selecting an element in the tree, you get to the
> "additional information" section of the checker which has some info on why
> the issue is a problem.
>
> You can press f6 until you get back to the main document to do something on
> the selected element.
>
> So the interface seems to be accessible. I can get to most everything with
> a keyboard and stuff seems to be labeled with an accessible name.
>
> Glen
> > > at
> http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
> >
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