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From: Laurie Kamrowski
Date: Tue, Nov 19 2019 5:03PM
Subject: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 176, Issue 18
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Hi Robert!

I was looking this over and I have also wondered about this. I work for a
college and I spoke to the Disability Coordinator, and we are going to meet
for lunch and discuss this.

Something that I had thought of off the top of my head though would be to
create a map specifically for the consumer with disabilities, personalizing
it for them. I am not sure if it is something that is workable for your
situation though. I had always wondered what the procedure would be if a
sight-impaired student was in one of our computer labs alone and an
evacuation order was issued. Our school has always gone above and beyond
when it comes to specific routes for specific situations but this one
always made me wonder.

I will report back any ideas or procedures that we come up with.

Have a great week!

Laurie Kamrowski
She/Her/Hers
Accessibility Specialist
Mid Michigan College



On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:16 PM Laurie Kamrowski < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi Amy!
>
> I collaborate with some other Accessibility specialists through the
> internet and I was wondering what our school's policy is for this scenario,
> and if we don't have one - would this be helpful? Just a thought and was
> wondering if I could get your take on it.
>
> My curiosity on this isn't just limited to people travelling to/from
> campus - what about specialized 'verbal' maps for someone who would sight
> impaired? I'd love to discuss this with you if you get a chance.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Laurie Kamrowski
> She/Her/Hers
> Accessibility Specialist
> Mid Michigan College
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
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> Date: Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:01 PM
> Subject: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 176, Issue 18
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> 1. Accessible Safe Walking Routes Map for Schools (Robert Hardy)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Robert Hardy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 09:50:38 -0800
> Subject: [WebAIM] Accessible Safe Walking Routes Map for Schools
> Hello everyone,
> First off, thank you all so much for your helpful discussions over the
> years. I've not submitted a thread before, but am eager to hear your
> opinions on this issue.
> I work with the Olympia School District in Washington state. Currently, the
> county is creating safe walking maps for our school district, as well as
> other districts in the county. Thankfully, the county is considering the
> accessibility of their maps as they create them, and they've asked us for
> our take on the maps. Here is an example map
> <
> https://www.osd.wednet.edu/UserFiles/Servers/Server_61540/File/Accessibility/Maps/MtView_WalkMap_Final1.pdf
> >.
> Note the PDF has not been tagged yet as it is a work in progress.
> I know maps overall can be difficult, and often it seems interactive maps,
> or maps that generate a list of directions are the route to go, but that
> doesn't appear to be an option here. This map has a wealth of useful
> information for our families:
>
> - Recommended routes
> - Crossing locations
> - Roads with sidewalks but high traffic
> - Roads without sidewalks
> - Crosswalks
> - Streets with sidewalks
> - other trails and paths
> - signalized crosswalks
> - 20mph school zones
> - Walk to school zones
>
> One potential solution that came to mind was to list these elements out,
> like this (using heading styles to break up the sections) and have it as
> on-page content:
>
> Mountain View Elementary
> Recommended Routes to School
> >From the North/East
>
> 1. South on Judd Street
> 2. West on 19th Avenue, 20th Avenue, or 21st Avenue – all streets
> without sidewalks but with low traffic.
>
> >From the West
>
> 1. East on 21st Avenue, a street with a sidewalk
>
> Streets with No Sidewalks but Low Traffic
>
> - 14th Way between Golf Club Road and College Street
> - 15th Avenue between Golf Club Road and College Street
> - 16th Avenue between Golf Club Road and College Street
> - 19th Avenue between Mountain View Elementary and Judd Street
> - 20th Avenue between Mountain View Elementary and Judd Street
> - 21st Avenue between Mountain View Elementary and Judd Street
> - Judd Street between 21st Avenue and 23rd Avenue
> - 23rd Avenue between Judd Street and Brentwood Place
> - Brentwood Place between 23rd Avenue and Brentwood Drive
> - Brentwood Drive SE between the western intersection of 26th Avenue SE
> and 2809 Brentwood Drive SE
> - Sunset Dr SE between Maple Hills Drive and 26th Avenue
>
> Streets with Sidewalks but Low Traffic
>
> - College Street between Lacey Boulevard and the southern edge of the
> map
>
> Crosswalks
>
> - Crossing Lacey Boulevard at Sleater Kinney Road
> - Crossing Lacey Boulevard at the east and west side of the Pacific
> Avenue/Lacey Boulevard/Golf Club Road roundabout
> - Crossing Golf Club Road at the north and south side of the Pacific
> Avenue/Lacey Boulevard/Golf Club Road roundabout
> - Crossing Pacific Avenue at the east and west side of the Pacific
> Avenue/Lacey Boulevard/Golf Club Road roundabout
> - Crossing Spur Line Road on the south side of Pacific Avenue
> - Crossing Circle Lane between Circle Court and Boulevard Park Lane
> - Crossing Circle Lane at Boulevard Park Lane
> - Crossing Circle Lane at the north side of the Circle Lane and Circle
> Loop intersection
> - Crossing Circle Loop at the east side of the Circle Loop and Willow
> Street intersection
> - Two crosswalks along the east side of Circle Loop between Willow
> Street and Woodland Loop
> - Crossing Circle Loop between Willow Street and Woodland Loop
> - Crossing Circle Loop at the southern intersection of Circle Loop and
> Circle Lane
> - Crossing Cardinal Lane just north of the Cardinal Lane and 21st Avenue
> intersection
> - Crossing Golf Club Road at the north side of Golf Club Road
>
> Along College Street
>
> - Crossing 14th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> - Crossing 14th Way on the west side of College Street
> - Crossing 15th Avenue on the west side of College Street
> - Crossing 16th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> - Crossing 17th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> - Crossing 18th Avenue on the east side of College Street
> - Crossing 19th Avenue on the west side of College Street
> - Crossing 22nd Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> - Crossing 23rd Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> - Crossing 24th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> - Crossing 25th Avenue on the east side of College Street
> - Crossing 26th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> - Crossing 27th Court on the west side of College Street
> - Crossing 28th Avenue on the east side of College Street
> - Crossing 29th Avenue on the west side of College Street
> - Crossing Belair Drive on the east side of College Street
>
> Along Ruddell Road
>
> - Crossing 14th Avenue on the east and west side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing 15th Avenue on the east and west side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing 16th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing 18th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing 19th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing Gemini Street on the east side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing 21st Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing 24th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing 25th Avenue on the east side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing 27th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing 29th Court on the east side of Ruddell Street
> - Crossing Hazelwood Lane on the east side of Ruddell Street
>
> Along 21st Avenue
>
> - Crossing Marina Way on the south side of 21st Avenue
> - Crossing 21st Avenue at the east side of Marina Way
> - Crossing Beta Street on the south side of 21st Avenue
> - Crossing Alpha Street on the south side of 21st Avenue
>
> What are your thoughts on this? I believe the county has already generated
> many of the PDFs, and they are looking to work with about sixty of these
> maps.
> Thank you all so much for your input!
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
> --
> *Robert Hardy*
> *Website Accessibility Specialist*
> *Olympia School District*
> *(360) 596-6105*
>
> > > > >

From: Robert Hardy
Date: Thu, Nov 21 2019 2:27PM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 176, Issue 18
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Hi Laurie,
Thank you so much for looking into it as well! I unfortunately don't
believe the county could create a secondary map, but I want to give them as
many options as possible. I had considered proposing tactile maps, but a
user would have to visit the school (perhaps by traveling along one of
these routes!) to access it. We really strive to ensure our community
members can achieve the same level of success in an equivalent timeframe,
and having to visit for the map falls short there. Could perhaps help with
emergency evacuation route maps though?
Let me know if you come upon any other potential solutions, really
appreciate your help and shared interest!

Best,
Robert

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:03 PM Laurie Kamrowski < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi Robert!
>
> I was looking this over and I have also wondered about this. I work for a
> college and I spoke to the Disability Coordinator, and we are going to meet
> for lunch and discuss this.
>
> Something that I had thought of off the top of my head though would be to
> create a map specifically for the consumer with disabilities, personalizing
> it for them. I am not sure if it is something that is workable for your
> situation though. I had always wondered what the procedure would be if a
> sight-impaired student was in one of our computer labs alone and an
> evacuation order was issued. Our school has always gone above and beyond
> when it comes to specific routes for specific situations but this one
> always made me wonder.
>
> I will report back any ideas or procedures that we come up with.
>
> Have a great week!
>
> Laurie Kamrowski
> She/Her/Hers
> Accessibility Specialist
> Mid Michigan College
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:16 PM Laurie Kamrowski < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Amy!
> >
> > I collaborate with some other Accessibility specialists through the
> > internet and I was wondering what our school's policy is for this
> scenario,
> > and if we don't have one - would this be helpful? Just a thought and was
> > wondering if I could get your take on it.
> >
> > My curiosity on this isn't just limited to people travelling to/from
> > campus - what about specialized 'verbal' maps for someone who would sight
> > impaired? I'd love to discuss this with you if you get a chance.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Laurie Kamrowski
> > She/Her/Hers
> > Accessibility Specialist
> > Mid Michigan College
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Date: Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:01 PM
> > Subject: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 176, Issue 18
> > To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> >
> >
> > Send WebAIM-Forum mailing list submissions to
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> >
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> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of WebAIM-Forum digest..."
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Accessible Safe Walking Routes Map for Schools (Robert Hardy)
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Robert Hardy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Cc:
> > Bcc:
> > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 09:50:38 -0800
> > Subject: [WebAIM] Accessible Safe Walking Routes Map for Schools
> > Hello everyone,
> > First off, thank you all so much for your helpful discussions over the
> > years. I've not submitted a thread before, but am eager to hear your
> > opinions on this issue.
> > I work with the Olympia School District in Washington state. Currently,
> the
> > county is creating safe walking maps for our school district, as well as
> > other districts in the county. Thankfully, the county is considering the
> > accessibility of their maps as they create them, and they've asked us for
> > our take on the maps. Here is an example map
> > <
> >
> https://www.osd.wednet.edu/UserFiles/Servers/Server_61540/File/Accessibility/Maps/MtView_WalkMap_Final1.pdf
> > >.
> > Note the PDF has not been tagged yet as it is a work in progress.
> > I know maps overall can be difficult, and often it seems interactive
> maps,
> > or maps that generate a list of directions are the route to go, but that
> > doesn't appear to be an option here. This map has a wealth of useful
> > information for our families:
> >
> > - Recommended routes
> > - Crossing locations
> > - Roads with sidewalks but high traffic
> > - Roads without sidewalks
> > - Crosswalks
> > - Streets with sidewalks
> > - other trails and paths
> > - signalized crosswalks
> > - 20mph school zones
> > - Walk to school zones
> >
> > One potential solution that came to mind was to list these elements out,
> > like this (using heading styles to break up the sections) and have it as
> > on-page content:
> >
> > Mountain View Elementary
> > Recommended Routes to School
> > >From the North/East
> >
> > 1. South on Judd Street
> > 2. West on 19th Avenue, 20th Avenue, or 21st Avenue – all streets
> > without sidewalks but with low traffic.
> >
> > >From the West
> >
> > 1. East on 21st Avenue, a street with a sidewalk
> >
> > Streets with No Sidewalks but Low Traffic
> >
> > - 14th Way between Golf Club Road and College Street
> > - 15th Avenue between Golf Club Road and College Street
> > - 16th Avenue between Golf Club Road and College Street
> > - 19th Avenue between Mountain View Elementary and Judd Street
> > - 20th Avenue between Mountain View Elementary and Judd Street
> > - 21st Avenue between Mountain View Elementary and Judd Street
> > - Judd Street between 21st Avenue and 23rd Avenue
> > - 23rd Avenue between Judd Street and Brentwood Place
> > - Brentwood Place between 23rd Avenue and Brentwood Drive
> > - Brentwood Drive SE between the western intersection of 26th Avenue
> SE
> > and 2809 Brentwood Drive SE
> > - Sunset Dr SE between Maple Hills Drive and 26th Avenue
> >
> > Streets with Sidewalks but Low Traffic
> >
> > - College Street between Lacey Boulevard and the southern edge of the
> > map
> >
> > Crosswalks
> >
> > - Crossing Lacey Boulevard at Sleater Kinney Road
> > - Crossing Lacey Boulevard at the east and west side of the Pacific
> > Avenue/Lacey Boulevard/Golf Club Road roundabout
> > - Crossing Golf Club Road at the north and south side of the Pacific
> > Avenue/Lacey Boulevard/Golf Club Road roundabout
> > - Crossing Pacific Avenue at the east and west side of the Pacific
> > Avenue/Lacey Boulevard/Golf Club Road roundabout
> > - Crossing Spur Line Road on the south side of Pacific Avenue
> > - Crossing Circle Lane between Circle Court and Boulevard Park Lane
> > - Crossing Circle Lane at Boulevard Park Lane
> > - Crossing Circle Lane at the north side of the Circle Lane and Circle
> > Loop intersection
> > - Crossing Circle Loop at the east side of the Circle Loop and Willow
> > Street intersection
> > - Two crosswalks along the east side of Circle Loop between Willow
> > Street and Woodland Loop
> > - Crossing Circle Loop between Willow Street and Woodland Loop
> > - Crossing Circle Loop at the southern intersection of Circle Loop and
> > Circle Lane
> > - Crossing Cardinal Lane just north of the Cardinal Lane and 21st
> Avenue
> > intersection
> > - Crossing Golf Club Road at the north side of Golf Club Road
> >
> > Along College Street
> >
> > - Crossing 14th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 14th Way on the west side of College Street
> > - Crossing 15th Avenue on the west side of College Street
> > - Crossing 16th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 17th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 18th Avenue on the east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 19th Avenue on the west side of College Street
> > - Crossing 22nd Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 23rd Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 24th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 25th Avenue on the east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 26th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 27th Court on the west side of College Street
> > - Crossing 28th Avenue on the east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 29th Avenue on the west side of College Street
> > - Crossing Belair Drive on the east side of College Street
> >
> > Along Ruddell Road
> >
> > - Crossing 14th Avenue on the east and west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 15th Avenue on the east and west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 16th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 18th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 19th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing Gemini Street on the east side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 21st Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 24th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 25th Avenue on the east side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 27th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 29th Court on the east side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing Hazelwood Lane on the east side of Ruddell Street
> >
> > Along 21st Avenue
> >
> > - Crossing Marina Way on the south side of 21st Avenue
> > - Crossing 21st Avenue at the east side of Marina Way
> > - Crossing Beta Street on the south side of 21st Avenue
> > - Crossing Alpha Street on the south side of 21st Avenue
> >
> > What are your thoughts on this? I believe the county has already
> generated
> > many of the PDFs, and they are looking to work with about sixty of these
> > maps.
> > Thank you all so much for your input!
> >
> > Best,
> > Robert
> >
> > --
> > *Robert Hardy*
> > *Website Accessibility Specialist*
> > *Olympia School District*
> > *(360) 596-6105*
> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >


--
*Robert Hardy*
*Website Accessibility Specialist*
*Olympia School District*
*(360) 596-6105*

From: dinesh tripathi
Date: Mon, Nov 25 2019 12:49PM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 176, Issue 23
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Hi All,


https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.0/components/modal/ 
The above link has demo modal box. When user launch the modal in IE11, JAWS user still get access on background page controls using Insert + F5. Set the aria-hidden=“true” but still get access on them.
Can any one help me on this?
Thanks Dinesh

From: Brian Lovely
Date: Tue, Nov 26 2019 11:01AM
Subject: Re: [External Sender] WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 176, Issue 23
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Insert + F5: is that the reformat document command? That seems like an edge
case to me; I probably wouldn't worry about it. The primary consideration
is that a user can't accidentally tab away from modal content and get lost.

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> Hi All,
>
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.0/components/modal/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!KuGhEzFlaK-wZJ0RSR4RwKcF-zI1c0BLHRAhov6IUTaBCsSBfIGTQ83tM_xhUMK_Ibxx3A$
>
> The above link has demo modal box. When user launch the modal in IE11,
> JAWS user still get access on background page controls using Insert +
> F5. Set the aria-hidden=“true” but still get access on them.
> Can any one help me on this?
> Thanks Dinesh
>
>
> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://list.webaim.org/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!KuGhEzFlaK-wZJ0RSR4RwKcF-zI1c0BLHRAhov6IUTaBCsSBfIGTQ83tM_xhUMKbsZ3lVg$
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From: Farough, David (CFP/PSC)
Date: Tue, Nov 26 2019 11:13AM
Subject: Re: [External Sender] WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 176, Issue 23
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The Insert+f5 brings up the forms fields list dialogue which will list all of the buttons and form fields from the page.

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Insert + F5: is that the reformat document command? That seems like an edge case to me; I probably wouldn't worry about it. The primary consideration is that a user can't accidentally tab away from modal content and get lost.

From: Brian Lovely
Date: Tue, Nov 26 2019 11:17AM
Subject: Re: [External Sender]WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 176, Issue 23
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Ah, OK. I still wouldn't worry about that. Help prevent a user from
accidentally straying, but don't worry about one wilfully escaping.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 1:13 PM Farough, David (CFP/PSC) <
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> The Insert+f5 brings up the forms fields list dialogue which will list all
> of the buttons and form fields from the page.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Brian Lovely via WebAIM-Forum
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [External Sender] Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 176,
> Issue 23
>
> Insert + F5: is that the reformat document command? That seems like an
> edge case to me; I probably wouldn't worry about it. The primary
> consideration is that a user can't accidentally tab away from modal content
> and get lost.
>
> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://list.webaim.org/__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!Oo7MYUFZpy9RCeYOd56huxSFobhTgp1OuvbOR321T5JD1anj_mEF2vVZUpOVKrZXtUMYOw$
> List archives at
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> >


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From: Shannon Urban
Date: Fri, Dec 06 2019 12:06PM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 177, Issue 4
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@Sean - no they're not interactive.

Thanks everyone!

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> 1. quick question on alt text (Shannon Urban)
> 2. Re: quick question on alt text (Jared Smith)
> 3. Re: quick question on alt text (Colin Osterhout)
> 4. Re: quick question on alt text (Murphy, Sean)
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> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 16:19:29 -0600
> Subject: [WebAIM] quick question on alt text
> I'm very familiar with alt text and its uses, but I wanted to confirm what
> is considered "decorative". I understand graphics like bars and lines,
> etc. would be decorative, but what about if the alt text of an image would
> literally be the same as the text on the screen?
>
> For example, "the boy asked his friend to hold the ladder for him" (that's
> the text on the screen). The image is of the friend holding the ladder for
> the boy - so alt text would be something like "boy holding ladder for
> another boy". It's not conveying any new or additional information, so to
> me it would be extraneous noise and should be null. What do you all think?
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] quick question on alt text
> Yes, alt="" is appropriate here so long as the content of the image is
> conveyed via adjacent or nearby text, and so long as the image is not the
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> Thanks,
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] quick question on alt text
> I'm thinking that aria-labelledby would be appropriate in this context as
> well if the items weren't immediately adjacent.
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> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 1:27 PM Jared Smith < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
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> > Yes, alt="" is appropriate here so long as the content of the image is
> > conveyed via adjacent or nearby text, and so long as the image is not the
> > only thing within a link.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jared
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] quick question on alt text
> You didn't indicate if the text and graphic are interactive or not. Is
> this the case?
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> Sean
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> I'm very familiar with alt text and its uses, but I wanted to confirm what
> is considered "decorative". I understand graphics like bars and lines,
> etc. would be decorative, but what about if the alt text of an image would
> literally be the same as the text on the screen?
>
> For example, "the boy asked his friend to hold the ladder for him" (that's
> the text on the screen). The image is of the friend holding the ladder for
> the boy - so alt text would be something like "boy holding ladder for
> another boy". It's not conveying any new or additional information, so to
> me it would be extraneous noise and should be null. What do you all think?
>
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> *Shannon Urban*
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> C 608-290-7613
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From: Robert Hardy
Date: Tue, Dec 10 2019 12:13PM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 176, Issue 18
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Hello Laurie and everyone else,
Just following up on this one to see if anyone had any alternative
solutions for this issue? Really hoping to provide as many options as
possible to the county. This content would be so helpful for our
district's families. Thank you everyone for your time and expertise!

Best,
Robert

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:03 PM Laurie Kamrowski < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi Robert!
>
> I was looking this over and I have also wondered about this. I work for a
> college and I spoke to the Disability Coordinator, and we are going to meet
> for lunch and discuss this.
>
> Something that I had thought of off the top of my head though would be to
> create a map specifically for the consumer with disabilities, personalizing
> it for them. I am not sure if it is something that is workable for your
> situation though. I had always wondered what the procedure would be if a
> sight-impaired student was in one of our computer labs alone and an
> evacuation order was issued. Our school has always gone above and beyond
> when it comes to specific routes for specific situations but this one
> always made me wonder.
>
> I will report back any ideas or procedures that we come up with.
>
> Have a great week!
>
> Laurie Kamrowski
> She/Her/Hers
> Accessibility Specialist
> Mid Michigan College
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:16 PM Laurie Kamrowski < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
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> > Hi Amy!
> >
> > I collaborate with some other Accessibility specialists through the
> > internet and I was wondering what our school's policy is for this
> scenario,
> > and if we don't have one - would this be helpful? Just a thought and was
> > wondering if I could get your take on it.
> >
> > My curiosity on this isn't just limited to people travelling to/from
> > campus - what about specialized 'verbal' maps for someone who would sight
> > impaired? I'd love to discuss this with you if you get a chance.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Laurie Kamrowski
> > She/Her/Hers
> > Accessibility Specialist
> > Mid Michigan College
> >
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> > 1. Accessible Safe Walking Routes Map for Schools (Robert Hardy)
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> > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 09:50:38 -0800
> > Subject: [WebAIM] Accessible Safe Walking Routes Map for Schools
> > Hello everyone,
> > First off, thank you all so much for your helpful discussions over the
> > years. I've not submitted a thread before, but am eager to hear your
> > opinions on this issue.
> > I work with the Olympia School District in Washington state. Currently,
> the
> > county is creating safe walking maps for our school district, as well as
> > other districts in the county. Thankfully, the county is considering the
> > accessibility of their maps as they create them, and they've asked us for
> > our take on the maps. Here is an example map
> > <
> >
> https://www.osd.wednet.edu/UserFiles/Servers/Server_61540/File/Accessibility/Maps/MtView_WalkMap_Final1.pdf
> > >.
> > Note the PDF has not been tagged yet as it is a work in progress.
> > I know maps overall can be difficult, and often it seems interactive
> maps,
> > or maps that generate a list of directions are the route to go, but that
> > doesn't appear to be an option here. This map has a wealth of useful
> > information for our families:
> >
> > - Recommended routes
> > - Crossing locations
> > - Roads with sidewalks but high traffic
> > - Roads without sidewalks
> > - Crosswalks
> > - Streets with sidewalks
> > - other trails and paths
> > - signalized crosswalks
> > - 20mph school zones
> > - Walk to school zones
> >
> > One potential solution that came to mind was to list these elements out,
> > like this (using heading styles to break up the sections) and have it as
> > on-page content:
> >
> > Mountain View Elementary
> > Recommended Routes to School
> > >From the North/East
> >
> > 1. South on Judd Street
> > 2. West on 19th Avenue, 20th Avenue, or 21st Avenue – all streets
> > without sidewalks but with low traffic.
> >
> > >From the West
> >
> > 1. East on 21st Avenue, a street with a sidewalk
> >
> > Streets with No Sidewalks but Low Traffic
> >
> > - 14th Way between Golf Club Road and College Street
> > - 15th Avenue between Golf Club Road and College Street
> > - 16th Avenue between Golf Club Road and College Street
> > - 19th Avenue between Mountain View Elementary and Judd Street
> > - 20th Avenue between Mountain View Elementary and Judd Street
> > - 21st Avenue between Mountain View Elementary and Judd Street
> > - Judd Street between 21st Avenue and 23rd Avenue
> > - 23rd Avenue between Judd Street and Brentwood Place
> > - Brentwood Place between 23rd Avenue and Brentwood Drive
> > - Brentwood Drive SE between the western intersection of 26th Avenue
> SE
> > and 2809 Brentwood Drive SE
> > - Sunset Dr SE between Maple Hills Drive and 26th Avenue
> >
> > Streets with Sidewalks but Low Traffic
> >
> > - College Street between Lacey Boulevard and the southern edge of the
> > map
> >
> > Crosswalks
> >
> > - Crossing Lacey Boulevard at Sleater Kinney Road
> > - Crossing Lacey Boulevard at the east and west side of the Pacific
> > Avenue/Lacey Boulevard/Golf Club Road roundabout
> > - Crossing Golf Club Road at the north and south side of the Pacific
> > Avenue/Lacey Boulevard/Golf Club Road roundabout
> > - Crossing Pacific Avenue at the east and west side of the Pacific
> > Avenue/Lacey Boulevard/Golf Club Road roundabout
> > - Crossing Spur Line Road on the south side of Pacific Avenue
> > - Crossing Circle Lane between Circle Court and Boulevard Park Lane
> > - Crossing Circle Lane at Boulevard Park Lane
> > - Crossing Circle Lane at the north side of the Circle Lane and Circle
> > Loop intersection
> > - Crossing Circle Loop at the east side of the Circle Loop and Willow
> > Street intersection
> > - Two crosswalks along the east side of Circle Loop between Willow
> > Street and Woodland Loop
> > - Crossing Circle Loop between Willow Street and Woodland Loop
> > - Crossing Circle Loop at the southern intersection of Circle Loop and
> > Circle Lane
> > - Crossing Cardinal Lane just north of the Cardinal Lane and 21st
> Avenue
> > intersection
> > - Crossing Golf Club Road at the north side of Golf Club Road
> >
> > Along College Street
> >
> > - Crossing 14th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 14th Way on the west side of College Street
> > - Crossing 15th Avenue on the west side of College Street
> > - Crossing 16th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 17th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 18th Avenue on the east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 19th Avenue on the west side of College Street
> > - Crossing 22nd Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 23rd Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 24th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 25th Avenue on the east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 26th Avenue on the west and east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 27th Court on the west side of College Street
> > - Crossing 28th Avenue on the east side of College Street
> > - Crossing 29th Avenue on the west side of College Street
> > - Crossing Belair Drive on the east side of College Street
> >
> > Along Ruddell Road
> >
> > - Crossing 14th Avenue on the east and west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 15th Avenue on the east and west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 16th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 18th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 19th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing Gemini Street on the east side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 21st Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 24th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 25th Avenue on the east side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 27th Avenue on the west side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing 29th Court on the east side of Ruddell Street
> > - Crossing Hazelwood Lane on the east side of Ruddell Street
> >
> > Along 21st Avenue
> >
> > - Crossing Marina Way on the south side of 21st Avenue
> > - Crossing 21st Avenue at the east side of Marina Way
> > - Crossing Beta Street on the south side of 21st Avenue
> > - Crossing Alpha Street on the south side of 21st Avenue
> >
> > What are your thoughts on this? I believe the county has already
> generated
> > many of the PDFs, and they are looking to work with about sixty of these
> > maps.
> > Thank you all so much for your input!
> >
> > Best,
> > Robert
> >
> > --
> > *Robert Hardy*
> > *Website Accessibility Specialist*
> > *Olympia School District*
> > *(360) 596-6105*
> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >


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*Robert Hardy*
*Website Accessibility Specialist*
*Olympia School District*
*(360) 596-6105*