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From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Date: Tue, Jan 07 2020 3:58AM
Subject: Accessibility of image cropping
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Hello all,
I am looking for any examples and/or documentation on how to make image
cropping accessible using keyboard and assistive technology. I know it may
be challenging to crop using screen reader bur if there are any resources
to make that happen, that would be great too.

Thanks in advance,

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA
Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Senior Accessibility Program Manager, Watermark Inc
Hon. Joint Secretary, The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka
Branch

From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Tue, Jan 07 2020 7:10AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of image cropping
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In addition to keyboard commands you could use a pane with edit fields allowing the user to change values. MS office products have similar features for control over object properties. You might also provide summary information to help screen reader user know what percent of picture was cropped and if image is proportional etc.

Jonathan

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> Hello all,
> I am looking for any examples and/or documentation on how to make image
> cropping accessible using keyboard and assistive technology. I know it may
> be challenging to crop using screen reader bur if there are any resources
> to make that happen, that would be great too.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Regards,
>
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
>
> Let's create an inclusive web!
>
> Senior Accessibility Program Manager, Watermark Inc
> Hon. Joint Secretary, The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka
> Branch
> > > >

From: glen walker
Date: Tue, Jan 07 2020 12:52PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of image cropping
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Turn on JAWS/NVDA and try resizing objects in powerpoint using the
keyboard. It tells you how far from the edge the object is. You can TAB
to navigate to the different objects in ppt. Unmodified arrow keys move
the object. Shift+arrow resizes the object. Alt+arrow rotates the object.

You could do something similar for cropping, telling the user how big the
image is as you adjust the cropping area.

And I agree having fields, as Jonathan mentioned, is also helpful. In ppt,
I can get to the sizing fields by pressing Alt+JD to get to the Format menu
(when an object is selected) then H or W to get to the height or width
fields.

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 7:11 AM Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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> In addition to keyboard commands you could use a pane with edit fields
> allowing the user to change values. MS office products have similar
> features for control over object properties. You might also provide
> summary information to help screen reader user know what percent of picture
> was cropped and if image is proportional etc.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>

From: Murphy, Sean
Date: Tue, Jan 07 2020 3:41PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of image cropping
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I have one question that you need to ask yourself. If a screen reader user is going to perform this action. Can they see the image to ensure they crop the correct amount? As being a screen reader user, I do not think this is possible. Yes, you can do what has been suggested. But is this going to be practical or provide the ability of independent modification of graphics for a person who cannot see the image in the first place.

Sean

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Hello all,
I am looking for any examples and/or documentation on how to make image cropping accessible using keyboard and assistive technology. I know it may be challenging to crop using screen reader bur if there are any resources to make that happen, that would be great too.

Thanks in advance,

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA
Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Senior Accessibility Program Manager, Watermark Inc Hon. Joint Secretary, The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka Branch

From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Date: Wed, Jan 08 2020 3:15AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of image cropping
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Thank you all for responses.

Jonathan, idea of adding fields is great; although it's an additional work
for developers, it certainly serves the purpose.

Glenn, thank you for sharing PPT example. That's awesome.

Sean - I agree that it may not be practically possible for screen reader
users to modify but when fields are added, it would at least ensure image
is positioned in the right way.
Of course, technology cannot say whether face is inserted or just the hair
<smile>
Thank you guys,
Srinivasu
Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA
Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Senior Accessibility Program Manager, Watermark Inc
Hon. Joint Secretary, The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka
Branch


On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:11 AM Murphy, Sean <
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> I have one question that you need to ask yourself. If a screen reader user
> is going to perform this action. Can they see the image to ensure they crop
> the correct amount? As being a screen reader user, I do not think this is
> possible. Yes, you can do what has been suggested. But is this going to be
> practical or provide the ability of independent modification of graphics
> for a person who cannot see the image in the first place.
>
> Sean
>
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> Hello all,
> I am looking for any examples and/or documentation on how to make image
> cropping accessible using keyboard and assistive technology. I know it may
> be challenging to crop using screen reader bur if there are any resources
> to make that happen, that would be great too.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Regards,
>
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
>
> Let's create an inclusive web!
>
> Senior Accessibility Program Manager, Watermark Inc Hon. Joint Secretary,
> The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka Branch
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From: glen walker
Date: Wed, Jan 08 2020 11:58AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of image cropping
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Yes, the sighted aspect of properly cropping an image is something to
consider but being able to do the cropping using just a keyboard is the
first step in that process and is needed by many types of users.

From: Lucy GRECO
Date: Wed, Jan 08 2020 1:25PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of image cropping
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hello: i would like to see what you come up with as this is a reel life
problem for me. but if you get it right it should be transferable. and
getting keyboard only access is a defanit whin
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:00 AM glen walker < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Yes, the sighted aspect of properly cropping an image is something to
> consider but being able to do the cropping using just a keyboard is the
> first step in that process and is needed by many types of users.
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