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From: Marshall Sunnes
Date: Tue, Jan 21 2020 8:51AM
Subject: JAWS & Chrome: rowspan issues
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Can anyone else replicate this:
I'm noticing that having rowspan in an HTML table is just not playing well
with JAWS (2020, 2019, 2018) when using Chrome (version 79). When moving
down a column, the virtual cursor moves diagonally.

For example, Example 2: Table with headers spanning multiple rows or columns
<https://www.w3.org/WAI/tutorials/tables/irregular/#table-with-headers-spanning-multiple-rows-or-columns>
Keyboard commands used:

- With the table layer turned on: navigate to value "A2" (Row 2, Column
3). Press Numpad 2.
- With table layer turned off: use Ctrl + Alt + Down Arrow

The expected behavior is that the virtual cursor will move to row 3, and
stay in column 3.
The actual behavior is that the virtual cursor moves to row 3, column 4.

This is also happening with Freedom Scientific's own table examples
<https://www.freedomscientific.com/SurfsUp/Tables.htm>.
The most similar example is the table following heading "Sales Contact by
State".

I'm not getting this issue with Intenet Explorer + JAWS, Microsoft Edge +
JAWS, NVDA + Firefox, nor VoiceOver + Safari.

Best,
Marshall

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*Marshall Sunnes*
*Senior Digital Accessibility Specialist*
NYU IT <https://www.nyu.edu/life/information-technology.html>
New York University
Phone: (212) 998 4417 <+12129984417>
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From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Tue, Jan 21 2020 9:01AM
Subject: Re: JAWS & Chrome: rowspan issues
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I am able to reproduce that. You should log an issue
https://github.com/FreedomScientific/VFO-standards-support/issues

Jon

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Can anyone else replicate this:
I'm noticing that having rowspan in an HTML table is just not playing well with JAWS (2020, 2019, 2018) when using Chrome (version 79). When moving down a column, the virtual cursor moves diagonally.

For example, Example 2: Table with headers spanning multiple rows or columns <https://www.w3.org/WAI/tutorials/tables/irregular/#table-with-headers-spanning-multiple-rows-or-columns>
Keyboard commands used:

- With the table layer turned on: navigate to value "A2" (Row 2, Column
3). Press Numpad 2.
- With table layer turned off: use Ctrl + Alt + Down Arrow

The expected behavior is that the virtual cursor will move to row 3, and stay in column 3.
The actual behavior is that the virtual cursor moves to row 3, column 4.

This is also happening with Freedom Scientific's own table examples <https://www.freedomscientific.com/SurfsUp/Tables.htm>.
The most similar example is the table following heading "Sales Contact by State".

I'm not getting this issue with Intenet Explorer + JAWS, Microsoft Edge + JAWS, NVDA + Firefox, nor VoiceOver + Safari.

Best,
Marshall

--
*Marshall Sunnes*
*Senior Digital Accessibility Specialist* NYU IT <https://www.nyu.edu/life/information-technology.html>
New York University
Phone: (212) 998 4417 <+12129984417>
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From: Marshall Sunnes
Date: Tue, Jan 21 2020 10:34AM
Subject: Re: JAWS & Chrome: rowspan issues
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Thanks, Jon!
Looks like rowspan has an entry
<https://github.com/FreedomScientific/VFO-standards-support/issues/193>,
already.

Best,
Marshall

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:02 AM Jonathan Avila < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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> I am able to reproduce that. You should log an issue
>
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> Jon
>
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> Can anyone else replicate this:
> I'm noticing that having rowspan in an HTML table is just not playing well
> with JAWS (2020, 2019, 2018) when using Chrome (version 79). When moving
> down a column, the virtual cursor moves diagonally.
>
> For example, Example 2: Table with headers spanning multiple rows or
> columns <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_WAI_tutorials_tables_irregular_-23table-2Dwith-2Dheaders-2Dspanning-2Dmultiple-2Drows-2Dor-2Dcolumns&d=DwICAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=cXj9zeYcj_L9F2wRWNJV-Q&m=Lslkx_sr4fPejeSkalnW0-U8CbVDSrBt3qJQ74hSn68&s=56pgaDsdwmmMP7pxbHm8FuEg1udCkKGCjzoYFabYnnw&e=
> >
> Keyboard commands used:
>
> - With the table layer turned on: navigate to value "A2" (Row 2, Column
> 3). Press Numpad 2.
> - With table layer turned off: use Ctrl + Alt + Down Arrow
>
> The expected behavior is that the virtual cursor will move to row 3, and
> stay in column 3.
> The actual behavior is that the virtual cursor moves to row 3, column 4.
>
> This is also happening with Freedom Scientific's own table examples <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.freedomscientific.com_SurfsUp_Tables.htm&d=DwICAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=cXj9zeYcj_L9F2wRWNJV-Q&m=Lslkx_sr4fPejeSkalnW0-U8CbVDSrBt3qJQ74hSn68&s=5-Pkj4RS7FeuJu4kG5hFWm7N6lNnMZLbrF-11dYRNxM&e=
> >.
> The most similar example is the table following heading "Sales Contact by
> State".
>
> I'm not getting this issue with Intenet Explorer + JAWS, Microsoft Edge +
> JAWS, NVDA + Firefox, nor VoiceOver + Safari.
>
> Best,
> Marshall
>
> --
> *Marshall Sunnes*
> *Senior Digital Accessibility Specialist* NYU IT <
> https://www.nyu.edu/life/information-technology.html>
> New York University
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*Marshall Sunnes*
*Senior Digital Accessibility Specialist*
NYU IT <https://www.nyu.edu/life/information-technology.html>
New York University
Phone: (212) 998 4417 <+12129984417>
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