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Re: JAWS 9 - Reading TITLEs of Links

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From: Egan, Bim
Date: Mar 12, 2009 4:30AM

No stats, but I don't know of any JAWS users who do enable the TITLE, as
it's so unpredictably implemented ... and I know quite a few JAWS
users.

ZoomText with Speech users do hear the TITLE attribute value, but its in
addition to, not instead of, link text. Can be quite mind blowing when
the link's a long one and the TITLE just repeats the link.

Bim Egan
RNIB Web Access Team.

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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Paul Collins
Sent: 12 March 2009 10:04
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] JAWS 9 - Reading TITLEs of Links

I'm wondering how many screen reader users actually turn that function
on, or stick to the default? Would have been a great question for the
WebAIM Screen Reader Survey.

I still avoid using titles for that reason - if I add important
information in the title area, I assume it won't be read out by the
majority of assistive software users.

Does anyone know the stats on this?
Cheers


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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Cliff Tyllick
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:29 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] JAWS 9 - Reading TITLEs of Links

Why not put the information into the alt text of the image? JAWS will
read alt text, right?

Cliff Tyllick
Web development coordinator
Agency Communications Division
Texas Commission on Environmental Quality
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>>> "Randall Pope" < <EMAIL REMOVED> > 3/11/2009 3:30 PM >>>
Hi David,

If you are using Firefox, that is probably the reason why. I personally
have never seen the title attribute display in Firefox, only in IE. But
then I'm not a JAW user.

So this bring up the question: Why use the title attribute?

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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of David
Ashleydale
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:04 PM
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Subject: [WebAIM] JAWS 9 - Reading TITLEs of Links

I just did a little JAWS 9 test and I discovered that JAWS won't read
the TITLE attribute of a link if the link contains an image -- even if
I've configured JAWS to read link TITLEs instead of link text.

When I replaced the image with text and asked JAWS to read it to me, it
read the TITLE of the link. I put the image back in and it read the ALT
attribute of the image.

It seems to me that if I've specifically configured JAWS to only read
link TITLEs to me, it should do so regardless of what the link contains.

Is this a known JAWS 9 bug? Does anyone know if this is fixed in JAWS
10?

Thanks,
David Ashleydale