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From: Cliff Tyllick
Date: May 14, 2015 6:56AM


Angela, for an example of how poor structure affects everyone, I've become fond of this page:

http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/content-structure-separation-programmatic.html

The first block of text on the page is 1000 words. The average sentence length in that block is 21 words.

Enjoy!

Cliff Tyllick
Texas Department of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services

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> On May 14, 2015, at 12:51 AM, Maraikayar Prem Nawaz < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> Similar to Before and After Demo from W3C we used this page for a
> Accessibility quiz program.
> http://mpnkhan.github.io/challenge/site/home.html . May be this helps
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Jennifer Sutton < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
>> There are tons of videos that demo screen readers, if that's what you mean.
>>
>> But please, please don't just focus on screen reader users. Good Web
>> writing is for everyone!
>>
>> I think we've had this kind of a discussion a few times, re. demos of
>> people using assistive tech., but here is a link to a collection of screen
>> reader demos, below my name, much as it's a pet peeve of mine that screen
>> reader use is overly emphasized in many trainings.
>> .
>>
>> Too often, what people come away with is:
>> "Oo, look at the new shiny screen reader..."
>> And then, we get sighted people trying to test with screen readers, when
>> they've never seen a blind person (much less several), use one? Not a good
>> idea, in my experience.
>> And I speak as a screen reader user, myself.
>>
>> And yes, I have ideas about better ways, even in terms of how sighted
>> people need better/visual/different tools to test ARIA -- anyone got a line
>> on a big pot of cash?
>>
>>
>> Stepping off of my soap box, but this is an ongoing trend -- even here on
>> this list, there are too often questions about how screen readers speak
>> things when, in my opinion, that's not as important as a lot of other
>> things that devs and content creators have a lot more control over.
>>
>> Jennifer
>>
>> http://alistairduggin.co.uk/blog/screenreader-resources/
>>
>> At 08:08 AM 5/13/2015, you wrote:
>>
>>> Jennifer,
>>> These are most awesome resources! Thank you so much; these should really
>>> help flush out our training. I'd sure love to find some pages that we can
>>> have our students hear read so they can really get the impact.
>>>
>>> Angela
>>
>> >> >> >> > > > >