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Re: required some clarifications about the focus items.

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From: Jonathan Avila
Date: Sep 21, 2016 6:57PM

> > Here, my Argument is, the save button has to focusable with tab
> either enabled or disabled.

It is generally acceptable to allow disabled buttons to not be in the focus order (via tab). I agree this can be confusing to some users, however, today many screen readers including Narrator on Windows 8+ and JAWS with the touch cursor can provide access to non-focusable content via navigation methods. NVDA can as well through object navigation.

> And, the next thing is, in the template list, if the user is in 5th
> item, and, if they press home key, as for my understanding, the focus
> has to come on to the 1st item of the list.
> But, when I press home key, my focus is going on to the new tab.
>

From what you describe it sounds like home should move to the first item and not to the tab. So your concern appears to be justified. Without seeing the example I cannot be certain though.

Jonathan

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-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of shankar shan
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:31 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] required some clarifications about the focus items.

hello bro, thanks for your quick response.
as for my companies policy, I have to test the accessibility with narrator.
but, for my better understanding, I can use other screen readers like jaws and non visual desktop.
but, we have to shared the results for the narrator Behavior






On 9/21/16, Don Mauck < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> First of all, I commend you for doing this, however, I would never
> test with Narrator. It is a very basic screen reader an cannot be
> reliable for major testing. I'd suggest that you go get NVDA if you
> are looking for a good free screen reader. It will have a lot more
> functionality and will probably treat your issue differently and more accurately.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shankar C [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:21 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: [WebAIM] required some clarifications about the focus items.
>
> Hello all, greetings.
> This is shankar from india.
> Most of the time, many people was helped me for getting the
> clarifications about the accessibility.
> Thanks for the support.
> I am testing all the scenarios with narrator Screen reader.
>
> Now, I came up with the new issue, hope some 1 will help me in this.
>
> Actually, I am testing the backstage for the PowerPoint from the
> prospective of screen reader users.
> In the backstage, if the file name is not given, the save button will
> be disabled and, the user cannot focus on the save button with the tab.
> But, the user can navigate with caps and arrow keys to focus on the
> save button.
>
> Here, my Argument is, the save button has to focusable with tab
> either enabled or disabled.
>
> And, the next thing is, in the template list, if the user is in 5th
> item, and, if they press home key, as for my understanding, the focus
> has to come on to the 1st item of the list.
> But, when I press home key, my focus is going on to the new tab.
>
> Here my Argument is, the focus must go to the 1st item of the list.
>
> I don't know whether I am right or wrong.
>
> This was just my Argument.
> If some 1 thinks that, my Argument is rite, can some 1 help me how to
> explain the developer things clearly?
>
> I am testing the scenarios with narrator
>
>
>
>
>
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