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From: Web Aim
Date: Wed, Nov 03 2004 12:11PM
Subject: Re Web accessibility and usability
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To Annmarie.
As promised I would like to recommend a Website
that is run by a large organisation and uses alternative text descriptions
successfully.
It speaks for itself:
The Dayton Art Institute. recommended to me by a
blind friend.
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href="http://www.daytonartinstitute.org/">http://www.daytonartinstitute..org/
Joe Bosher.
From: Austin, Darrel
Date: Wed, Nov 03 2004 12:18PM
Subject: Re: Re Web accessibility and usability
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> The Dayton Art Institute. recommended to me by a blind friend.
> http://www.daytonartinstitute.org/
Ironically, they're javascript-based fly-out navigation system is completely
inaccessible to me using my keyboard.
Viewing the site in lynx I see this:
Access art. [link] [link] [link] [link] [link] SITEMAP
I go to the SITEMAP page and end up with a bunch of 404 errors.
Hardly an accessible site from what I can see.
-Darrel
From: Iain Harrison
Date: Wed, Nov 03 2004 12:24PM
Subject: Re: Re Web accessibility and usability
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Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 7:11:37 PM, webaim63 wrote:
> The Dayton Art Institute. recommended to me by a blind friend.
> http://www.daytonartinstitute.org/
Is this a joke? I only looked at the front page. Most of the text
there is rendered as images, with no 'alt' at all - not even blank
ones. The page has no structure whatever. Needless to say, the HTML
is invalid.
Anyone with a visual disability would struggle to make sense of it.
--
Iain
From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Wed, Nov 03 2004 12:30PM
Subject: Re: Re Web accessibility and usability
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I guess the bit that the blind friend was praising was just the "access
art" part
http://tours.daytonartinstitute.org/accessart/
The rest, as has been pointed out, is inaccessible papp.
Patrick
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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Wed, Nov 03 2004 1:21PM
Subject: Re: Re Web accessibility and usability
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The alt on the images is fine, although it probably should just be one
combined link for the image and the adjacent text link that leads to the
same place, in which case null alt would be appropriate.
This site could also have one of the longer summaries I've seen in a while
on a layout table (this should be removed entirely):
<TABLE BORDER = "0" CELLSPACING = "0" CELLPADDING = "0"
WIDTH = "100%" TITLE = "Navigation table"
SUMMARY = "This table has three sections. The upper left section
contains a small Access Art logo. The upper right
section has a graphic that says 'The Dayton Art
Institute.' The section below that contains a site
navigation menu.">
Within each image's page - the javascript-driven image-examination tool has
its own issues from the keyboard that are also worth looking into.
They clearly have made an effort with accessibility, but they've still got
work to do.
AWK
On 11/3/04 2:30 PM, "redux" wrote:
>
> I guess the bit that the blind friend was praising was just the "access
> art" part
> http://tours.daytonartinstitute.org/accessart/
>
> The rest, as has been pointed out, is inaccessible papp.
>
> Patrick
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From: Terrence Wood
Date: Wed, Nov 03 2004 1:38PM
Subject: Re: Re Web accessibility and usability
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The site doesn't work without javascript. The links in the site map are
all broken unless you return to the home page and use the site map from
there.
Attending to some basics like ensuring the links work will improve this
site immensely.
regards
Terrence Wood
On 2004-11-04 9:20 AM, andrew_kirkpatrick wrote:
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> They clearly have made an effort with accessibility, but they've still got
> work to do.
>
From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Wed, Nov 03 2004 2:40PM
Subject: Re: Re Web accessibility and usability
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> The site doesn't work without javascript. The links in the site map are
> all broken unless you return to the home page and use the site map from
> there.
You're talking about the main site. The question was about
http://tours.daytonartinstitute.org/accessart/ -- this part of the site does
work without javascript, although not all functionality found on inside
pages works without javascript (or for all users with javascript).
AWK
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From: Annmarie L Gemma
Date: Thu, Nov 04 2004 10:08AM
Subject: Re: Re Web accessibility and usability
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Joe,
It was good to speak with you on Tuesday.
Thank you very much for this link. It's likely that I can use this site in the usability tests (for example, to compare against a site that does not use alternative text).
~Annmarie
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From: webaim63
Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2004 2:11 pm
Subject: [WebAIM] Re Web accessibility and usability
> To Annmarie.
> As promised I would like to recommend a Website that is run by a
> large organisation and uses alternative text descriptions
> successfully.
> It speaks for itself:
> The Dayton Art Institute. recommended to me by a blind friend.
> http://www.daytonartinstitute.org/
> Joe Bosher.