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From: Penny Roberts
Date: Wed, Apr 26 2006 8:50AM
Subject: Powerpoints
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I've been asked to put up links to some Powerpoint training
presentations (primarily for library staff but the links will probably
have to be on a public page rather than a restricted access page).

What do I need to consider about Powerpoints and accessibility (not that
I have much power to change anything but I can always try)?

Penny




From: John Foliot
Date: Wed, Apr 26 2006 9:00AM
Subject: RE: Powerpoints
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Penny Roberts wrote:
> I've been asked to put up links to some Powerpoint training
> presentations (primarily for library staff but the links will probably
> have to be on a public page rather than a restricted access page).
>
> What do I need to consider about Powerpoints and accessibility (not
> that
> I have much power to change anything but I can always try)?
>
> Penny


Penny, could you consider throwing them into the trash bin? (LOL)

Seriously, Powerpoints have any number of accessibility issues and should be
avoided. Dave Raggett (of the W3C) has developed a wonderful tool called
"Slidy" which allows you to create Powerpoint style presentations using
semantic, structural HTML, along with some slick JavaScript and CSS. I am
actually using this very same tool today on a project I am developing for a
client.

To find out more, and to access source code and related files, see:
http://www.w3.org/2005/03/slideshow.html

JF
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From: smithj7
Date: Wed, Apr 26 2006 9:10AM
Subject: RE: Powerpoints
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I use the Illois Accesible Web Publishing Wizard for making powerpoint
presentations accesible. It is a wonderful wizard. I found it is best
to have text alternatives in a single file labeled by slide for the long
description name so I can cut and paste. Other wise you need to type in
the long description and there isn't a spell check.

http://www.accessiblewizards.uiuc.edu/

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I've been asked to put up links to some Powerpoint training
presentations (primarily for library staff but the links will probably
have to be on a public page rather than a restricted access page).

What do I need to consider about Powerpoints and accessibility (not that

I have much power to change anything but I can always try)?

Penny

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From: smithj7
Date: Wed, Apr 26 2006 9:20AM
Subject: RE: Powerpoints
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I like the way Slidy looks and that you can download to your machine.
At this point, folks get upset when I don't get up their slide shows
quickly enough and the Illinois Tool has really saved me lots of time.
However, in the near future I'll check out how difficult this is to use.


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Penny Roberts wrote:
> I've been asked to put up links to some Powerpoint training
> presentations (primarily for library staff but the links will probably

> have to be on a public page rather than a restricted access page).
>
> What do I need to consider about Powerpoints and accessibility (not
> that I have much power to change anything but I can always try)?
>
> Penny


Penny, could you consider throwing them into the trash bin? (LOL)

Seriously, Powerpoints have any number of accessibility issues and
should be avoided. Dave Raggett (of the W3C) has developed a wonderful
tool called "Slidy" which allows you to create Powerpoint style
presentations using semantic, structural HTML, along with some slick
JavaScript and CSS. I am actually using this very same tool today on a
project I am developing for a client.

To find out more, and to access source code and related files, see:
http://www.w3.org/2005/03/slideshow.html

JF
--
John Foliot = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Web Accessibility Specialist
WATS.ca - Web Accessibility Testing and Services
http://www.wats.ca
Phone: 1-613-482-7053





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From: Penny Roberts
Date: Wed, Apr 26 2006 10:00AM
Subject: Re: Powerpoints
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smithj7 wrote:
> I use the Illois Accesible Web Publishing Wizard for making powerpoint
> presentations accesible. It is a wonderful wizard. I found it is best
> to have text alternatives in a single file labeled by slide for the long
> description name so I can cut and paste. Other wise you need to type in
> the long description and there isn't a spell check.
>
> http://www.accessiblewizards.uiuc.edu/

Thanks for the link.

Penny




From: Penny Roberts
Date: Wed, Apr 26 2006 10:10AM
Subject: Re: Powerpoints
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John Foliot wrote:
> Penny Roberts wrote:
>> I've been asked to put up links to some Powerpoint training
>> presentations (primarily for library staff but the links will probably
>> have to be on a public page rather than a restricted access page).
>>
>> What do I need to consider about Powerpoints and accessibility (not
>> that
>> I have much power to change anything but I can always try)?
>>
>> Penny
>
>
> Penny, could you consider throwing them into the trash bin? (LOL)


me/shakes head


> Seriously, Powerpoints have any number of accessibility issues


That's what I was afraid of :-(


> avoided. Dave Raggett (of the W3C) has developed a wonderful tool called
> "Slidy" which allows you to create Powerpoint style presentations using
> semantic, structural HTML, along with some slick JavaScript and CSS.


Is it like Eric Meyer's S5?

I am
> actually using this very same tool today on a project I am developing for a
> client.
>
> To find out more, and to access source code and related files, see:
> http://www.w3.org/2005/03/slideshow.html

Thanks John, that looks perfect. Unfortunately there are about twenty
of these powerpoints so getting them all converted will be a slow process.
In the meantime the links to the current powerpoints will have to go up
so is there anything I can do for now as a damage limitation exercise?

Penny




From: Jon Gunderson
Date: Wed, Apr 26 2006 10:30AM
Subject: Re: Powerpoints
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Penny,

Please checkout the Accessible Web Publishign Wizard for
Microsoft Office. It supports both web standards
(interoperability) and accessibility.

http://www.accessiblewizards.uiuc.edu

There is also free on line training on the use of the Wizard
and Office Best Practices:

http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/presentations/index-wc.php

Jon


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>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:44:34 +0100
>From: Penny Roberts < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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>
>I've been asked to put up links to some Powerpoint training
>presentations (primarily for library staff but the links will
probably
>have to be on a public page rather than a restricted access
page).
>
>What do I need to consider about Powerpoints and
accessibility (not that
>I have much power to change anything but I can always try)?
>
>Penny
>
>
>


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and
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Disability Resources and Education Services (DRES)

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From: Mark Novak
Date: Wed, Apr 26 2006 11:30AM
Subject: Re: Powerpoints
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Penny

In the future, you may wish (if you can) to work with the PPT authors...per
the following
link:

http://www.cew.wisc.edu/accessibility/tutorials/pptscratch.htm

properly created PPTs go a long way to assist with accessibility without having
to re-work them later.



otherwise as previously stated...

http://www.cew.wisc.edu/accessibility/tutorials/pptmain.htm
has a tutorial with information on one of the plugins previously mentioned.

mark





>>avoided. Dave Raggett (of the W3C) has developed a wonderful tool called
>>"Slidy" which allows you to create Powerpoint style presentations using
>>semantic, structural HTML, along with some slick JavaScript and CSS.
>
>
>Is it like Eric Meyer's S5?
>
> I am
>>actually using this very same tool today on a project I am developing for a
>>client.
>>To find out more, and to access source code and related files, see:
>>http://www.w3.org/2005/03/slideshow.html
>
>Thanks John, that looks perfect. Unfortunately there are about twenty of
>these powerpoints so getting them all converted will be a slow process.
> In the meantime the links to the current powerpoints will have to
> go up so is there anything I can do for now as a damage limitation exercise?
>
>Penny
>





From: smithj7
Date: Wed, Apr 26 2006 11:40AM
Subject: RE: Powerpoints
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Mark this is a wonderful tuturial! I am always working with staff to get
them to make powerpoint acessible. The DOE training office is going to
set up some classes so I can teach this skill. May I use this rather
than reinventing the wheel. I do use the plug in tool to make items
accessible to our blind staff and it is put on their internet. The last
one I did took me 4 hours, because "it looked" pretty good but the "item
lists" were not used properly and I had to go back and fix many slides.
And of course I wasn't provided accessible graphics. <sigh>

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Penny

In the future, you may wish (if you can) to work with the PPT
authors...per
the following
link:

http://www.cew.wisc.edu/accessibility/tutorials/pptscratch.htm

properly created PPTs go a long way to assist with accessibility without
having to re-work them later.



otherwise as previously stated...

http://www.cew.wisc.edu/accessibility/tutorials/pptmain.htm
has a tutorial with information on one of the plugins previously
mentioned.

mark





>>avoided. Dave Raggett (of the W3C) has developed a wonderful tool
>>called "Slidy" which allows you to create Powerpoint style
>>presentations using semantic, structural HTML, along with some slick
>>JavaScript and CSS.
>
>
>Is it like Eric Meyer's S5?
>
> I am
>>actually using this very same tool today on a project I am developing
>>for a client. To find out more, and to access source code and related
>>files, see: http://www.w3.org/2005/03/slideshow.html
>
>Thanks John, that looks perfect. Unfortunately there are about twenty
>of
>these powerpoints so getting them all converted will be a slow process.
> In the meantime the links to the current powerpoints will have
to
> go up so is there anything I can do for now as a damage limitation
exercise?
>
>Penny
>


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From: Mark Novak
Date: Wed, Apr 26 2006 2:10PM
Subject: RE: Powerpoints
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i'm sure the "Web Accessibility for All" project would encourage anyone who
finds the tutorial helpful to use it, and appreciate a compliment. their
contact
information is on the home page

http://www.cew.wisc.edu/accessibility/default.htm


if you use the turAt 01:28 PM 4/26/06 -0400, you wrote:
>Mark this is a wonderful tuturial! I am always working with staff to get
>them to make powerpoint acessible. The DOE training office is going to
>set up some classes so I can teach this skill. May I use this rather
>than reinventing the wheel. I do use the plug in tool to make items
>accessible to our blind staff and it is put on their internet. The last
>one I did took me 4 hours, because "it looked" pretty good but the "item
>lists" were not used properly and I had to go back and fix many slides.
>And of course I wasn't provided accessible graphics. <sigh>
>
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>[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Mark Novak
>Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:57 AM
>To: WebAIM Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Powerpoints
>
>
>Penny
>
>In the future, you may wish (if you can) to work with the PPT
>authors...per
>the following
>link:
>
>http://www.cew.wisc.edu/accessibility/tutorials/pptscratch.htm
>
>properly created PPTs go a long way to assist with accessibility without
>having to re-work them later.
>
>
>
>otherwise as previously stated...
>
>http://www.cew.wisc.edu/accessibility/tutorials/pptmain.htm
>has a tutorial with information on one of the plugins previously
>mentioned.
>
>mark
>
>
>
>
>
> >>avoided. Dave Raggett (of the W3C) has developed a wonderful tool
> >>called "Slidy" which allows you to create Powerpoint style
> >>presentations using semantic, structural HTML, along with some slick
> >>JavaScript and CSS.
> >
> >
> >Is it like Eric Meyer's S5?
> >
> > I am
> >>actually using this very same tool today on a project I am developing
> >>for a client. To find out more, and to access source code and related
> >>files, see: http://www.w3.org/2005/03/slideshow.html
> >
> >Thanks John, that looks perfect. Unfortunately there are about twenty
> >of
> >these powerpoints so getting them all converted will be a slow process.
> > In the meantime the links to the current powerpoints will have
>to
> > go up so is there anything I can do for now as a damage limitation
>exercise?
> >
> >Penny
> >
>
>
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From: Penny Roberts
Date: Fri, Apr 28 2006 2:50AM
Subject: Re: Powerpoints
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Mark Novak wrote:
> Penny
>
> In the future, you may wish (if you can) to work with the PPT
> authors...per the following
> link:
>
> http://www.cew.wisc.edu/accessibility/tutorials/pptscratch.htm
>
> properly created PPTs go a long way to assist with accessibility without
> having
> to re-work them later.


Thanks Mark, I shall send that link to the person who currently edits
the PPTs and the head of Reader Education. I know that they will both
agree to making the PPTs accessible; the issue just won't have been
raised by anyone before.

Penny




From: Greg Kraus
Date: Fri, Apr 28 2006 8:00AM
Subject: Re: Powerpoints
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On Apr 26, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Penny Roberts wrote:

> I've been asked to put up links to some Powerpoint training
> presentations (primarily for library staff but the links will probably
> have to be on a public page rather than a restricted access page).
>
> What do I need to consider about Powerpoints and accessibility (not
> that I have much power to change anything but I can always try)?

We also sell a product called LecShare (http://www.lecshare.com) that
converts PowerPoint Presentations to accessible HTML.

Greg Kraus

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P.O. Box 1119
Clayton, NC 27528
919.934.3810 (voice)
919.882.1275 (fax)
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