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From: David Farough
Date: Fri, Feb 08 2013 11:21AM
Subject: Fwd: Table captions using span and css class wb-invisible from the template
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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Fri, Feb 08 2013 11:46AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Table captions using span and css class wb-invisible from the template
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Hi

Is there a web-based version of this somewhere (for easy esting)?
Also, better to mark the table up with a heading right before it I
think, though opinions may vary.


On 2/8/13, David Farough < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Could anyone please provide answers to the following question?
>
> David Farough
> Application Accessibility Coordinator/coordonateur de l'accessibilité
> Information Technology Services Directorate /
> Direction des services d'information technologiques
> Public Service Commission / Commission de la fonction publique
> Email / Courriel: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Tel. / Tél: (613) 992-2779
>
>>>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > 08:23 AM Friday, February 08, 2013
>>>>
> I am hoping you folks might be able to offer some guidance on this
> issue. Is there a reason that a table caption would not be read if it is
> within the span class? See the code below for an example. Currently a
> saved local versions using this example with the css style wb-invisible
> (which uses overflow:hidden in place of display:none) works, but live or
> staging versions navigate to the span but do not read the content.
>
> The table caption is encoded like this:
>
> <table>
> <caption>
> <span class="wb-invisible">Monthly gross domestic product by
> industry at basic prices in chained (2002) dollars &#8211; Seasonally
> adjusted</span>
> </caption>
>
> CSS:
>
> .wb-invisible, {
> clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);
> height: 1px !important;
> margin: 0 !important;
> overflow: hidden !important;
> position: absolute;
> width: 1px !important;
>
> Thanks,
>
> Juli Rowsell
> Web Accessibility Officer
> Centre of Expertise on Accessibility
> Statistics Canada
> 100 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> Government of Canada
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Telephone 613-951-9831
>
> Agente d'accessibilité au web
> Centre d'expertise en accessibilité
> Statistique Canada
> 100, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> Gouvernement du Canada
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Téléphone 613-951-9831
>
>
>
>
>>
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From: Detlev Fischer
Date: Fri, Feb 08 2013 12:03PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Table captions using span and css class wb-invisible from the template
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If the aim is to hide the caption for sighted users, you might consider using the table summary attribute instead: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/H73.html
Not sure how widely supported summary is, however - the WCAG Technique at least does not mention limited support.
Cheers, Detlev

On 8 Feb 2013, at 19:21, David Farough wrote:

> Could anyone please provide answers to the following question?
>
> David Farough
> Application Accessibility Coordinator/coordonateur de l'accessibilité
> Information Technology Services Directorate /
> Direction des services d'information technologiques
> Public Service Commission / Commission de la fonction publique
> Email / Courriel: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> Tel. / Tél: (613) 992-2779
>
>>>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > 08:23 AM Friday, February 08, 2013
>>>>
> I am hoping you folks might be able to offer some guidance on this
> issue. Is there a reason that a table caption would not be read if it is
> within the span class? See the code below for an example. Currently a
> saved local versions using this example with the css style wb-invisible
> (which uses overflow:hidden in place of display:none) works, but live or
> staging versions navigate to the span but do not read the content.
>
> The table caption is encoded like this:
>
> <table>
> <caption>
> <span class="wb-invisible">Monthly gross domestic product by
> industry at basic prices in chained (2002) dollars &#8211; Seasonally
> adjusted</span>
> </caption>
>
> CSS:
>
> .wb-invisible, {
> clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);
> height: 1px !important;
> margin: 0 !important;
> overflow: hidden !important;
> position: absolute;
> width: 1px !important;
>
> Thanks,
>
> Juli Rowsell
> Web Accessibility Officer
> Centre of Expertise on Accessibility
> Statistics Canada
> 100 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> Government of Canada
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Telephone 613-951-9831
>
> Agente d'accessibilité au web
> Centre d'expertise en accessibilité
> Statistique Canada
> 100, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> Gouvernement du Canada
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Téléphone 613-951-9831
>
>
>
>
>>
> This e-mail message is intended for the named recipient(s) and may
> contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from
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>>
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>
> > > --
Detlev Fischer
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c/o feld.wald.wiese
Thedestraße 2
22767 Hamburg

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From: Angela French
Date: Fri, Feb 08 2013 12:02PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Table captions using span and css classwb-invisible from the template
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Must have been a gremlin in the server that moment.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto:webaim-forum-
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Detlev Fischer
>Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:04 AM
>To: WebAIM Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Fwd: Table captions using span and css class wb-
>invisible from the template
>
>If the aim is to hide the caption for sighted users, you might consider using the
>table summary attribute instead: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-
>TECHS/H73.html
>Not sure how widely supported summary is, however - the WCAG Technique
>at least does not mention limited support.
>Cheers, Detlev
>
>On 8 Feb 2013, at 19:21, David Farough wrote:
>
>> Could anyone please provide answers to the following question?
>>
>> David Farough
>> Application Accessibility Coordinator/coordonateur de l'accessibilité
>> Information Technology Services Directorate / Direction des services
>> d'information technologiques Public Service Commission / Commission de
>> la fonction publique Email / Courriel: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> Tel. / Tél: (613) 992-2779
>>
>>>>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > 08:23 AM Friday, February 08, 2013
>>>>>
>> I am hoping you folks might be able to offer some guidance on this
>> issue. Is there a reason that a table caption would not be read if it
>> is within the span class? See the code below for an example. Currently
>> a saved local versions using this example with the css style
>> wb-invisible (which uses overflow:hidden in place of display:none)
>> works, but live or staging versions navigate to the span but do not read the
>content.
>>
>> The table caption is encoded like this:
>>
>> <table>
>> <caption>
>> <span class="wb-invisible">Monthly gross domestic product by
>> industry at basic prices in chained (2002) dollars &#8211; Seasonally
>> adjusted</span>
>> </caption>
>>
>> CSS:
>>
>> .wb-invisible, {
>> clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);
>> height: 1px !important;
>> margin: 0 !important;
>> overflow: hidden !important;
>> position: absolute;
>> width: 1px !important;
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Juli Rowsell
>> Web Accessibility Officer
>> Centre of Expertise on Accessibility
>> Statistics Canada
>> 100 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Government of Canada
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Telephone 613-951-9831
>>
>> Agente d'accessibilité au web
>> Centre d'expertise en accessibilité
>> Statistique Canada
>> 100, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Gouvernement du
>> Canada
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Téléphone 613-951-9831
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>> This e-mail message is intended for the named recipient(s) and may
>> contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt
>> from disclosure under applicable law. Unauthorized disclosure, copying
>> or re-transmission is prohibited. If you are not a named recipient or
>> not authorized by the named recipient(s), or if you have received this
>> e-mail in error, then please notify the sender immediately and delete
>> the message and any copies.
>>>
>> Ce courriel est destiné exclusivement au destinataire mentionné en
>> titre et peut contenir de l'information privilégiée, confidentielle ou
>> soustraite à la communication aux termes des lois applicables. Toute
>> divulgation non autorisée, toute reproduction ou réacheminement est
>> interdit. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce courriel, ou n'êtes
>> pas autorisé par le destinataire visé, ou encore, si vous l'avez reçu
>> par erreur, veuillez le mentionner immédiatement à l'expéditeur et
>> supprimer le courriel et les copies.
>>
>> >> >> list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
>--
>Detlev Fischer
>testkreis - das Accessibility-Team von feld.wald.wiese c/o feld.wald.wiese
>Thedestraße 2
>22767 Hamburg
>
>Tel +49 (0)40 439 10 68-3
>Mobil +49 (0)1577 170 73 84
>Fax +49 (0)40 439 10 68-5
>
>http://www.testkreis.de
>Beratung, Tests und Schulungen für barrierefreie Websites
>
>
>
>
>>>messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

From: Angela French
Date: Fri, Feb 08 2013 12:05PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Table captions using span and cssclasswb-invisible from the template
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Oops. I replied in the wrong email. Apologies

>-----Original Message-----
>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto:webaim-forum-
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
>Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:03 AM
>To: WebAIM Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Fwd: Table captions using span and css class wb-
>invisible from the template
>
>Must have been a gremlin in the server that moment.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto:webaim-forum-
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Detlev Fischer
>>Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:04 AM
>>To: WebAIM Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Fwd: Table captions using span and css class wb-
>>invisible from the template
>>
>>If the aim is to hide the caption for sighted users, you might consider
>>using the table summary attribute instead:
>http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-
>>TECHS/H73.html Not sure how widely supported summary is, however - the
>>WCAG Technique at least does not mention limited support.
>>Cheers, Detlev
>>
>>On 8 Feb 2013, at 19:21, David Farough wrote:
>>
>>> Could anyone please provide answers to the following question?
>>>
>>> David Farough
>>> Application Accessibility Coordinator/coordonateur de l'accessibilité
>>> Information Technology Services Directorate / Direction des services
>>> d'information technologiques Public Service Commission / Commission
>>> de la fonction publique Email / Courriel: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>> Tel. / Tél: (613) 992-2779
>>>
>>>>>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > 08:23 AM Friday, February 08,
>>>>>> 2013
>>>>>>
>>> I am hoping you folks might be able to offer some guidance on this
>>> issue. Is there a reason that a table caption would not be read if it
>>> is within the span class? See the code below for an example.
>>> Currently a saved local versions using this example with the css
>>> style wb-invisible (which uses overflow:hidden in place of
>>> display:none) works, but live or staging versions navigate to the
>>> span but do not read the
>>content.
>>>
>>> The table caption is encoded like this:
>>>
>>> <table>
>>> <caption>
>>> <span class="wb-invisible">Monthly gross domestic product by
>>> industry at basic prices in chained (2002) dollars &#8211; Seasonally
>>> adjusted</span>
>>> </caption>
>>>
>>> CSS:
>>>
>>> .wb-invisible, {
>>> clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);
>>> height: 1px !important;
>>> margin: 0 !important;
>>> overflow: hidden !important;
>>> position: absolute;
>>> width: 1px !important;
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Juli Rowsell
>>> Web Accessibility Officer
>>> Centre of Expertise on Accessibility
>>> Statistics Canada
>>> 100 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Government of
>Canada
>>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> Telephone 613-951-9831
>>>
>>> Agente d'accessibilité au web
>>> Centre d'expertise en accessibilité
>>> Statistique Canada
>>> 100, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Gouvernement du
>>> Canada
>>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>>> Téléphone 613-951-9831
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>> This e-mail message is intended for the named recipient(s) and may
>>> contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt
>>> from disclosure under applicable law. Unauthorized disclosure,
>>> copying or re-transmission is prohibited. If you are not a named
>>> recipient or not authorized by the named recipient(s), or if you have
>>> received this e-mail in error, then please notify the sender
>>> immediately and delete the message and any copies.
>>>>
>>> Ce courriel est destiné exclusivement au destinataire mentionné en
>>> titre et peut contenir de l'information privilégiée, confidentielle
>>> ou soustraite à la communication aux termes des lois applicables.
>>> Toute divulgation non autorisée, toute reproduction ou réacheminement
>>> est interdit. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce courriel, ou
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From: Jared Smith
Date: Fri, Feb 08 2013 12:10PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Table captions using span and css class wb-invisible from the template
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I can think of no reason why one would want to present such a caption
only to screen reader users. If it's useful content, why not show it
to everyone? If it's not useful content, why force it on just screen
reader users? Either show it or remove it altogether - there's no
complex accessibility issues with that.

From a technical standpoint, it may be that NVDA and Firefox is being
used to test the page. For some reason it is currently (or at least
was a couple months ago) ignoring all content in Firefox that is given
overflow:auto styles. This is certainly a bug that needs to be
addressed.

Jared