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From: Leo Smith
Date: Fri, Sep 17 2004 7:53AM
Subject: handheld devices and accessibility
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Hi Folks,
 
I have been doing some demonstrations lately to
potential clients about the benefits of running an accessible Web site.
 
Of course, we all know that making a site
accessible to AT also makes it more usable and accessible to those using
handheld devices. From my experiences, showing can be significantly more
powerful than just saying, and I would like to be able to show just what a
typical PDA or cell user would receive.
 
I don't have access to either of these devices that
are internet ready. So my question is, what is the best way I can show what a
PDA/cell user would receive -- Lynx might come close to some hardware/software
combinations, but I know that many of the latest PDA browsers are *not* text
only ones.
 
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, as
always.
 
Best,
 
Leo.
 
From: Patrick Lauke
Date: Fri, Sep 17 2004 8:04AM
Subject: Re: handheld devices and accessibility
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WebAIM Discussion ListSubject: [WebAIM] handheld devices and
accessibility
Hi Folks,
I have been doing some demonstrations lately to
potential clients about the benefits of running an accessible Web site.
Of course, we all know that making a site
accessible to AT also makes it more usable and accessible to those using
handheld devices. From my experiences, showing can be significantly more
powerful than just saying, and I would like to be able to show just what a
typical PDA or cell user would receive.
I don't have access to either of these devices
that are internet ready. So my question is, what is the best way I can show
what a PDA/cell user would receive -- Lynx might come close to some
hardware/software combinations, but I know that many of the latest PDA
browsers are *not* text only ones.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, as
always.
Best,
Leo.
From: Iain Harrison
Date: Fri, Sep 17 2004 8:24AM
Subject: Re: handheld devices and accessibility
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Friday, September 17, 2004, 2:48:18 PM, leo wrote:
> I don't have access to either of these devices that are internet ready.
Copy the files to the PDA and open them locally?
--
Iain
From: Katharine Whitelaw
Date: Fri, Sep 17 2004 8:39AM
Subject: Re: handheld devices and accessibility
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Use Opera's Small Screen view (under the View menu). It will show you
how a page will look on a small screen with or without images and
stylesheets.
One note: some small devices don't show quite as well. The Opera view
is a best case scenario.
Katy
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Hi Folks,
I have been doing some demonstrations lately to potential clients about
the benefits of running an accessible Web site.
Of course, we all know that making a site accessible to AT also makes
it more usable and accessible to those using handheld devices. From my
experiences, showing can be significantly more powerful than just
saying, and I would like to be able to show just what a typical PDA or
cell user would receive.
I don't have access to either of these devices that are internet ready.
So my question is, what is the best way I can show what a PDA/cell user
would receive -- Lynx might come close to some hardware/software
combinations, but I know that many of the latest PDA browsers are *not*
text only ones.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, as always.
Best,
Leo.
From: Austin, Darrel
Date: Fri, Sep 17 2004 8:43AM
Subject: Re: handheld devices and accessibility
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> Of course, we all know that making a site accessible to AT also makes
> it more usable and accessible to those using handheld devices. From
> my experiences, showing can be significantly more powerful than just
> saying, and I would like to be able to show just what a typical PDA
> or cell user would receive.
Agreed. The more we can promote accessibility as being something that
benefits ALL of a client's customers, the more it becomes an easy sell in
terms of pure business logic.
I tend to use the example of a wheel-chair ramp. At first glance it may seem
like an unecessary cost to only accomodate a small percentage of a potential
stores visitors that are in wheel chairs. But it also accomodates mothers
with strollers, the UPS delivery man, the furniture movers, the person with
a cane, the toddler going to the store with dad, the kid on inline skates,
the plumber wheeling in the tools, etc.
> I don't have access to either of these devices that are internet
> ready. So my question is, what is the best way I can show what a
> PDA/cell user would receive -- Lynx might come close to some
> hardware/software combinations, but I know that many of the latest
> PDA browsers are *not* text only ones.
Palm has a very nice PDA emulator that you can run on your desktop. It has a
nice feature where you can double the size of the interface (great for
presentations). There's a PocketPC emulator as well, which I need to figure
out how to get running on my machine...
-Darrel