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From: Wendy Mullin
Date: Fri, Sep 17 2004 10:52AM
Subject: examples of accessible sites
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Hi -
I'm looking for good examples of accessible sites to show off to some
coworkers who consider accessible to mean boring and dull.
A variety of sites would be great - for example, a mix of educational,
commercial, and other types of sites.
I'd be interested in a site even if it doesn't do everything right
(yet). For example, a site that is mostly accessible but still hasn't
made its multimedia accessible yet. (So I can say, "Look, this is an
example of a site that has done so and so right, but still needs to work
on this and that.")
Any suggestions?
You can reply to me on or off list. My email is = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = .
Thanks.
Wendy
Wendy R. Mullin
University of South Carolina, Web Developer
1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208
voice: 803-777-6785 | fax: 803-777-4149
From: Hall, Kevin (K.M.)
Date: Fri, Sep 17 2004 11:09AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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See www.chevy.com, www.wired,com, www.espn.com, www.macromedia.com, none are perfect accessibility wise, but they are all pretty good as well as being prominent sites with aesthetically pleasing designs.
-Kevin Hall
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From: wmullin [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 12:52 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] examples of accessible sites
Hi -
I'm looking for good examples of accessible sites to show off to some
coworkers who consider accessible to mean boring and dull.
A variety of sites would be great - for example, a mix of educational,
commercial, and other types of sites.
I'd be interested in a site even if it doesn't do everything right
(yet). For example, a site that is mostly accessible but still hasn't
made its multimedia accessible yet. (So I can say, "Look, this is an
example of a site that has done so and so right, but still needs to work
on this and that.")
Any suggestions?
You can reply to me on or off list. My email is = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = .
Thanks.
Wendy
Wendy R. Mullin
University of South Carolina, Web Developer
1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208
voice: 803-777-6785 | fax: 803-777-4149
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From: Jon Gunderson
Date: Fri, Sep 17 2004 11:37AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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How about:
http://www.ncpad.org
Jon
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>Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:52:12 -0400
>From: "wmullin"
>Subject: [WebAIM] examples of accessible sites
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>
>Hi -
>
>I'm looking for good examples of accessible sites to show
off to some
>coworkers who consider accessible to mean boring and dull.
>
>A variety of sites would be great - for example, a mix of
educational,
>commercial, and other types of sites.
>
>I'd be interested in a site even if it doesn't do everything
right
>(yet). For example, a site that is mostly accessible but
still hasn't
>made its multimedia accessible yet. (So I can say, "Look,
this is an
>example of a site that has done so and so right, but still
needs to work
>on this and that.")
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>You can reply to me on or off list. My email is
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = .
>
>Thanks.
>
>Wendy
>
>Wendy R. Mullin
>University of South Carolina, Web Developer
>1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208
>voice: 803-777-6785 | fax: 803-777-4149
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From: Jim Thatcher
Date: Fri, Sep 17 2004 12:13PM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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Check out the winners of recent AIR competitions,
http://knowbility.org/air-austin/?content=winners. AIR stands for
Accessibility Internet Rally, originated and promoted by
http://Knowbility.org. AIR recruits tech teams, and trains them in
accessibility (basic (HTML) and advanced (scripting, CSS, and Flash)). Then
the tech teams are paired with non-profits which have been trained in how to
say what you want on the web. In a one day (8 hour) rally the teams produce
web sites for the non-profits which are then judged for accessibility,
function aesthetics quality of purpose. There is a gala event celebrating
the winners. It started here in Austin but AIR's are spreading - watch for
(or start) one in your home town.
Jim
Accessibility Consulting: http://jimthatcher.com/
512-306-0931
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From: wmullin [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:52 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: [WebAIM] examples of accessible sites
Hi -
I'm looking for good examples of accessible sites to show off to some
coworkers who consider accessible to mean boring and dull.
A variety of sites would be great - for example, a mix of educational,
commercial, and other types of sites.
I'd be interested in a site even if it doesn't do everything right
(yet). For example, a site that is mostly accessible but still hasn't
made its multimedia accessible yet. (So I can say, "Look, this is an
example of a site that has done so and so right, but still needs to work
on this and that.")
Any suggestions?
You can reply to me on or off list. My email is = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = .
Thanks.
Wendy
Wendy R. Mullin
University of South Carolina, Web Developer
1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208
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From: Martin Godfrey
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2004 3:59AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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Hi Wendy
My company have recently completed a number of sites which have top notch
accessibility.
A selection is as follows:
* http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/
- UK government treasury website, meets WAI level AAA
* http://www.oxfam.org.uk/
- surely needs no introduction - commended by the Disability Rights
Commission here in the UK (http://www.drc-gb.org/)
* http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/
- a UK government run site aimed at small businesses, built to meet RNIB's
See It Right standard (a selection of WAI's most relevant A, AA and AAA
checkpoints - http://www.rnib.org.uk/)
* http://www.chatsworth-house.co.uk/
- a site for a beautiful stately home in the North of England - meets
RNIB's See It Right standard
I hope this is useful in convincing your colleagues that accessible can also
be beautiful.
Kind regards
Martin
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> Subject: examples of accessible sites
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:52:50 -0600
>
> Hi -
>
> I'm looking for good examples of accessible sites to show off to some
> coworkers who consider accessible to mean boring and dull.
>
> A variety of sites would be great - for example, a mix of educational,
> commercial, and other types of sites.
>
> I'd be interested in a site even if it doesn't do everything right
> (yet). For example, a site that is mostly accessible but still hasn't
> made its multimedia accessible yet. (So I can say, "Look, this is an
> example of a site that has done so and so right, but still needs to work
> on this and that.")
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> You can reply to me on or off list. My email is = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = .
>
> Thanks.
>
> Wendy
>
> Wendy R. Mullin
> University of South Carolina, Web Developer
> 1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208
> voice: 803-777-6785 | fax: 803-777-4149
>
From: Chris Heilmann
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2004 5:00AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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> * http://www.oxfam.org.uk/
> - surely needs no introduction - commended by the Disability Rights
> Commission here in the UK (http://www.drc-gb.org/)
And I so wonder why. I have no screen reader at hand, but I can forsee
it'll be a nightmare to use (nested tables, no skip links over the
navigation). Even the simplest usability helpers (don't link the current
page, make it obvious this is where you are) are not implemented and the
HTML is riddled with unneccesary attributes and bulky Javascript where CSS
would have done the trick. Using pixels made sure that on IE the text is
not resizable, and the text-only version is (apart from creating a
disabled ghetto) full of design elements like > on own text lines.
From: Terrence Wood
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2004 7:53AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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hi Martin,
Here's another gotcha to look out for, and a solution...
The access key for search submits the form instead of focusing the the
search field, which is disorientating, and just plain annoying,
especially when greeted with an error message once the empty search
results appear.
Here's the fix: add a label for your search field with the access key in
it to focus the search field. This will also help your WACG compliance.
Remove the access key from the anchor, in fact remove the anchor
altogether and replace it with an actual submit button - you can style
it to appear the same as what's there at the moment.
../tdw
martin wrote:
>
> * http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/
> - UK government treasury website, meets WAI level AAA
From: Mary Martinson Grossnickle
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2004 8:45AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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>
>* http://www.chatsworth-house.co.uk/
> - a site for a beautiful stately home in the North of England - meets
>RNIB's See It Right standard
>
Martin, can you tell me if most sites that pass the RNIB audit put the See
It Right logo on the page? I notice that yours does not. Also, do you know
how the audit is conducted: is it only done with software tools, or do they
have an expert review, or at least some human intervention?
A couple of notes:
The link "Read More" appears multiple times on a page. When a person with a
screen reader brings up the list of links, the links will be out of context,
and so the user can't tell where a "Read More" link will go. Instead of
"Read More" you can link the text within the sentence or phrase. For
example, you could link "Rare Greenhouse tours" (WCAG 13.1 Clearly identify
the target of each link. Link text should be meaningful enough to make sense
when read out of context)
Also, in my screen reader, the table that begins with the picture of Nancy
Mitford reads:
This year, Shopping, For Young People, New This Year, Fine Food and Gifts,
Everyone Welcome
The table needs to be linearized (WCAG 5.3 Do not use tables for layout
unless the table makes sense when linearized.)
I didn't go any further with checking the site. I do like the look and feel!
Hope this helps your accessibility efforts,
Mary
From: Henny.Swan@rnib.org.uk
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2004 8:58AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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Hi All,
I work in the Web Accessibility Consultancy here in RNIB so thought I'd just
jump in here and answer your questions regarding the See it Right audit
process.
1. can you tell me if most sites that pass the RNIB audit put the See It
Right logo on the page?
Only sites that have been audited by us can carry the logo. We audit the
site, issue a detailed report outlining where the site has failed and what
it can do to fix problems, the client then makes the changes and we then
recheck the site to see if all changes have been made. If the site passes we
issue the logo which is valid for a year. After that time the site must be
reaudited in order to continue carrying the logo.
2. do you know how the audit is conducted: is it only done with software
tools, or do they have an expert review, or at least some human
intervention?
We use some automated testing tools but the audit is largely done manually
by trained consultants. We use a number of different browsers and access
technologies to do this. There are two consultants who will work on any
given audit. One to lead the project and the other to quality assure the
report.
For more information have a look at http://www.rnib.org.uk/seeitrightaudit
or drop me a line.
Regards, Henny
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From: maryg [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: 20 September 2004 15:45
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] examples of accessible sites
>
>* http://www.chatsworth-house.co.uk/
> - a site for a beautiful stately home in the North of England - meets
>RNIB's See It Right standard
>
Martin, can you tell me if most sites that pass the RNIB audit put the See
It Right logo on the page? I notice that yours does not. Also, do you know
how the audit is conducted: is it only done with software tools, or do they
have an expert review, or at least some human intervention?
A couple of notes:
The link "Read More" appears multiple times on a page. When a person with a
screen reader brings up the list of links, the links will be out of context,
and so the user can't tell where a "Read More" link will go. Instead of
"Read More" you can link the text within the sentence or phrase. For
example, you could link "Rare Greenhouse tours" (WCAG 13.1 Clearly identify
the target of each link. Link text should be meaningful enough to make sense
when read out of context)
Also, in my screen reader, the table that begins with the picture of Nancy
Mitford reads:
This year, Shopping, For Young People, New This Year, Fine Food and Gifts,
Everyone Welcome
The table needs to be linearized (WCAG 5.3 Do not use tables for layout
unless the table makes sense when linearized.)
I didn't go any further with checking the site. I do like the look and feel!
Hope this helps your accessibility efforts,
Mary
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From: Mary Martinson Grossnickle
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2004 9:26AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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Henry, did the site in question, http://www.chatsworth-house.co.uk/, pass
your audit? It seems that errors such as links not making sense out of
context and non-linearized tables should have been flagged and fixed.
Mary
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From: henny.swan [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:57 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] examples of accessible sites
Hi All,
I work in the Web Accessibility Consultancy here in RNIB so thought I'd just
jump in here and answer your questions regarding the See it Right audit
process.
1. can you tell me if most sites that pass the RNIB audit put the See It
Right logo on the page?
Only sites that have been audited by us can carry the logo. We audit the
site, issue a detailed report outlining where the site has failed and what
it can do to fix problems, the client then makes the changes and we then
recheck the site to see if all changes have been made. If the site passes we
issue the logo which is valid for a year. After that time the site must be
reaudited in order to continue carrying the logo.
2. do you know how the audit is conducted: is it only done with software
tools, or do they have an expert review, or at least some human
intervention?
We use some automated testing tools but the audit is largely done manually
by trained consultants. We use a number of different browsers and access
technologies to do this. There are two consultants who will work on any
given audit. One to lead the project and the other to quality assure the
report.
For more information have a look at http://www.rnib.org.uk/seeitrightaudit
or drop me a line.
Regards, Henny
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From: maryg [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: 20 September 2004 15:45
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] examples of accessible sites
>
>* http://www.chatsworth-house.co.uk/
> - a site for a beautiful stately home in the North of England - meets
>RNIB's See It Right standard
>
Martin, can you tell me if most sites that pass the RNIB audit put the See
It Right logo on the page? I notice that yours does not. Also, do you know
how the audit is conducted: is it only done with software tools, or do they
have an expert review, or at least some human intervention?
A couple of notes:
The link "Read More" appears multiple times on a page. When a person with a
screen reader brings up the list of links, the links will be out of context,
and so the user can't tell where a "Read More" link will go. Instead of
"Read More" you can link the text within the sentence or phrase. For
example, you could link "Rare Greenhouse tours" (WCAG 13.1 Clearly identify
the target of each link. Link text should be meaningful enough to make sense
when read out of context)
Also, in my screen reader, the table that begins with the picture of Nancy
Mitford reads:
This year, Shopping, For Young People, New This Year, Fine Food and Gifts,
Everyone Welcome
The table needs to be linearized (WCAG 5.3 Do not use tables for layout
unless the table makes sense when linearized.)
I didn't go any further with checking the site. I do like the look and feel!
Hope this helps your accessibility efforts,
Mary
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From: razvan@cpea.ro via hermes.insoft.ro
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2004 9:32AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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Hello.
This is a web site i recently finished. It is accessible, still have to
work on it for WAI. I hope it is not boring.
URL: http://www.astraroger.ro
Kindest Regards,
Razvan Pop
From: Henny.Swan@rnib.org.uk
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2004 9:39AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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Hi Mary,
No we haven't audited http://www.chatsworth-house.co.uk/ or spoken to them
to the best of my knowledge so I'm not quite sure where the information is
from.
Henny
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Sent: 20 September 2004 16:26
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] examples of accessible sites
Henry, did the site in question, http://www.chatsworth-house.co.uk/, pass
your audit? It seems that errors such as links not making sense out of
context and non-linearized tables should have been flagged and fixed.
Mary
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From: henny.swan [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:57 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] examples of accessible sites
Hi All,
I work in the Web Accessibility Consultancy here in RNIB so thought I'd just
jump in here and answer your questions regarding the See it Right audit
process.
1. can you tell me if most sites that pass the RNIB audit put the See It
Right logo on the page?
Only sites that have been audited by us can carry the logo. We audit the
site, issue a detailed report outlining where the site has failed and what
it can do to fix problems, the client then makes the changes and we then
recheck the site to see if all changes have been made. If the site passes we
issue the logo which is valid for a year. After that time the site must be
reaudited in order to continue carrying the logo.
2. do you know how the audit is conducted: is it only done with software
tools, or do they have an expert review, or at least some human
intervention?
We use some automated testing tools but the audit is largely done manually
by trained consultants. We use a number of different browsers and access
technologies to do this. There are two consultants who will work on any
given audit. One to lead the project and the other to quality assure the
report.
For more information have a look at http://www.rnib.org.uk/seeitrightaudit
or drop me a line.
Regards, Henny
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From: maryg [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: 20 September 2004 15:45
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] examples of accessible sites
>
>* http://www.chatsworth-house.co.uk/
> - a site for a beautiful stately home in the North of England - meets
>RNIB's See It Right standard
>
Martin, can you tell me if most sites that pass the RNIB audit put the See
It Right logo on the page? I notice that yours does not. Also, do you know
how the audit is conducted: is it only done with software tools, or do they
have an expert review, or at least some human intervention?
A couple of notes:
The link "Read More" appears multiple times on a page. When a person with a
screen reader brings up the list of links, the links will be out of context,
and so the user can't tell where a "Read More" link will go. Instead of
"Read More" you can link the text within the sentence or phrase. For
example, you could link "Rare Greenhouse tours" (WCAG 13.1 Clearly identify
the target of each link. Link text should be meaningful enough to make sense
when read out of context)
Also, in my screen reader, the table that begins with the picture of Nancy
Mitford reads:
This year, Shopping, For Young People, New This Year, Fine Food and Gifts,
Everyone Welcome
The table needs to be linearized (WCAG 5.3 Do not use tables for layout
unless the table makes sense when linearized.)
I didn't go any further with checking the site. I do like the look and feel!
Hope this helps your accessibility efforts,
Mary
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From: Martin Godfrey
Date: Tue, Sep 21 2004 3:05AM
Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
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Hi Henny and Mary
Apologies if I misled the group - this site was designed using RNIB's
guidelines but the site owners did not choose to employ RNIB to conduct an
audit.
The other example I gave http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/ has been audited by
RNIB and is expected to receive accreditation imminently.
Martin
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> Subject: Re: examples of accessible sites
> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:39:26 -0600
>
> Hi Mary,
>
> No we haven't audited http://www.chatsworth-house.co.uk/ or spoken to them
> to the best of my knowledge so I'm not quite sure where the information is
> from.
>
> Henny