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From: Angela French
Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 3:38PM
Subject: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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Hello,
As I begin to see light at the end of the tunnel on hand-fixing each html page of our site for accessibility issues, I am trying to research any enterprise level automated tools that can check for issues site wide. I am aware of, by name only, Compliance Sheriff by HiSoftware, and AMP by SSB Bart Group. If you know of others, or have feedback you would like to offer on your experience with these produces, I would appreciate hearing from you.
Thank you,
Angela French
Internet Specialist
State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
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http://www.checkoutacollege.com/
http://sbctc.edu <http://sbctc.edu%20>;
From: Tony Olivero
Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 3:44PM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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Angela,
There's also Worldspace from Deque. I have used it at a couple orgs
and have had great success.
Tony
Sent from my wireless phone. Pith is intentional; typos or perceived
abruptness are not.
On Apr 16, 2012, at 16:42, Angela French < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hello,
> As I begin to see light at the end of the tunnel on hand-fixing each html page of our site for accessibility issues, I am trying to research any enterprise level automated tools that can check for issues site wide. I am aware of, by name only, Compliance Sheriff by HiSoftware, and AMP by SSB Bart Group. If you know of others, or have feedback you would like to offer on your experience with these produces, I would appreciate hearing from you.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Angela French
> Internet Specialist
> State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
> 360-704-4316
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> http://www.checkoutacollege.com/
> http://sbctc.edu <http://sbctc.edu%20>;
>
> > >
From: Stella Mudd
Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 5:17PM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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Does anyone know of any free spidering solutions? This seems to be a
barrier to access as most people don't have 50k to spend on spidering tools
and don't have the time to individually test each page of larger sites with
free solutions such as WAVE.
On Monday, April 16, 2012, Tony Olivero wrote:
> Angela,
>
> There's also Worldspace from Deque. I have used it at a couple orgs
> and have had great success.
>
> Tony
>
> Sent from my wireless phone. Pith is intentional; typos or perceived
> abruptness are not.
>
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 16:42, Angela French < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > As I begin to see light at the end of the tunnel on hand-fixing each
> html page of our site for accessibility issues, I am trying to research any
> enterprise level automated tools that can check for issues site wide. I am
> aware of, by name only, Compliance Sheriff by HiSoftware, and AMP by SSB
> Bart Group. If you know of others, or have feedback you would like to
> offer on your experience with these produces, I would appreciate hearing
> from you.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Angela French
> > Internet Specialist
> > State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
> > 360-704-4316
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <javascript:;>
> > http://www.checkoutacollege.com/
> > http://sbctc.edu <http://sbctc.edu%20>;
> >
> > > > > > > > > >
From: Jared Smith
Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 5:43PM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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We at WebAIM are working on a site-wide auditing solution that
utilizes a new WAVE framework. The initial component will be an API
that will allow you to collect report data on any number of pages. We
hope to have this API available in the near future (perhaps a couple
months). This would be an easy, low-cost solution, if you're willing
to wait just a bit.
Jared Smith
WebAIM.org
From: Stella Mudd
Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 6:07PM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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Why can't you get it to me now?!?! Sounds good Jared. Waiting patiently...
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Jared Smith < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> We at WebAIM are working on a site-wide auditing solution that
> utilizes a new WAVE framework. The initial component will be an API
> that will allow you to collect report data on any number of pages. We
> hope to have this API available in the near future (perhaps a couple
> months). This would be an easy, low-cost solution, if you're willing
> to wait just a bit.
>
> Jared Smith
> WebAIM.org
> > > >
From: Lucy Greco
Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 6:09PM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibility auditing
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I ASK NOT WHY NOT NOW BUT CAN I TEST IT SMILE
Lucy Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
Disabled Student's Program UC Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
http://attlc.berkeley.edu
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:08 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
Why can't you get it to me now?!?! Sounds good Jared. Waiting patiently...
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Jared Smith < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> We at WebAIM are working on a site-wide auditing solution that
> utilizes a new WAVE framework. The initial component will be an API
> that will allow you to collect report data on any number of pages. We
> hope to have this API available in the near future (perhaps a couple
> months). This would be an easy, low-cost solution, if you're willing
> to wait just a bit.
>
> Jared Smith
> WebAIM.org
> > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
From: Bourne, Sarah (ITD)
Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 7:53AM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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Angela,
Here are the validation and testing tools we've found: https://wiki.state.ma.us/confluence/display/assistivetechnologygroup/Accessibility+Validation+Solutions+and+Tools
(Jared, looking forward to adding Big WAVE when it's available.)
sb
Sarah E. Bourne
Director of Assistive Technology &
Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
Information Technology Division
Commonwealth of Massachusetts
1 Ashburton Pl. rm 1601 Boston MA 02108
617-626-4502
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http://www.mass.gov/itd
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From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:39 PM
To: 'WebAim Forum ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )'; 'University and College Webmasters ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )'
Subject: [WebAIM] site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
Hello,
As I begin to see light at the end of the tunnel on hand-fixing each html page of our site for accessibility issues, I am trying to research any enterprise level automated tools that can check for issues site wide. I am aware of, by name only, Compliance Sheriff by HiSoftware, and AMP by SSB Bart Group. If you know of others, or have feedback you would like to offer on your experience with these produces, I would appreciate hearing from you.
Thank you,
Angela French
Internet Specialist
State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
http://www.checkoutacollege.com/
http://sbctc.edu <http://sbctc.edu%20>;
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 8:16AM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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Hi
@jared: Will you guys take extra care to make sure this new tool will
be accessible for SR users? There were problems with the Wave toolbar
I know, I have tried the online version of the new Wave v5 and am very
happy with it, will try toolbar this week.
@tony (or anyone who knows): how accessible is Worldspace with a
screen reader (Fire Eyes works, or some aspect of it, I have some
small issues with others, but I have only tried it for a relatively
short time).
Thanks
-Birkir
On 4/17/12, Bourne, Sarah (ITD) < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Angela,
>
> Here are the validation and testing tools we've found:
> https://wiki.state.ma.us/confluence/display/assistivetechnologygroup/Accessibility+Validation+Solutions+and+Tools
>
> (Jared, looking forward to adding Big WAVE when it's available.)
>
> sb
>
> Sarah E. Bourne
> Director of Assistive Technology &
> Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
> Information Technology Division
> Commonwealth of Massachusetts
> 1 Ashburton Pl. rm 1601 Boston MA 02108
> 617-626-4502
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> http://www.mass.gov/itd
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:39 PM
> To: 'WebAim Forum ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )'; 'University and College
> Webmasters ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )'
> Subject: [WebAIM] site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
>
> Hello,
> As I begin to see light at the end of the tunnel on hand-fixing each html
> page of our site for accessibility issues, I am trying to research any
> enterprise level automated tools that can check for issues site wide. I am
> aware of, by name only, Compliance Sheriff by HiSoftware, and AMP by SSB
> Bart Group. If you know of others, or have feedback you would like to offer
> on your experience with these produces, I would appreciate hearing from you.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Angela French
> Internet Specialist
> State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
> 360-704-4316
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> http://www.checkoutacollege.com/
> http://sbctc.edu <http://sbctc.edu%20>;
>
> > > messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > > >
From: Jared Smith
Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 8:24AM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
> @jared: Will you guys take extra care to make sure this new tool will
> be accessible for SR users?
Of course.
> There were problems with the Wave toolbar
> I know, I have tried the online version of the new Wave v5 and am very
> happy with it, will try toolbar this week.
I'd be happy to know of any accessibility issues with the toolbar.
There is not yet a WAVE v5 toolbar, only the early beta of the online
version.
Jared
From: Angela French
Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 8:46AM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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Are you able to provide an estimated range for the cost?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto:webaim-forum-
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
>Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 4:43 PM
>To: WebAIM Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
>
>We at WebAIM are working on a site-wide auditing solution that utilizes a
>new WAVE framework. The initial component will be an API that will allow
>you to collect report data on any number of pages. We hope to have this API
>available in the near future (perhaps a couple months). This would be an
>easy, low-cost solution, if you're willing to wait just a bit.
>
>Jared Smith
>WebAIM.org
>>>messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
From: McKeithan, Thomas
Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 8:48AM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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I'd be interested in the potential cost as well.
Respectfully,
Thomas Lee McKeithan II
Accessibility Program Manager
National Industries for the Blind
1310 Braddock Place
Alexandria, VA 22314
(703)310-0586 Direct
(202)276-6437 Cell
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"Believing is achieving, for if I believe, I can and I will achieve."
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From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:46 AM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
Are you able to provide an estimated range for the cost?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto:webaim-forum-
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jared Smith
>Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 4:43 PM
>To: WebAIM Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
>
>We at WebAIM are working on a site-wide auditing solution that utilizes
>a new WAVE framework. The initial component will be an API that will
>allow you to collect report data on any number of pages. We hope to
>have this API available in the near future (perhaps a couple months).
>This would be an easy, low-cost solution, if you're willing to wait just a bit.
>
>Jared Smith
>WebAIM.org
>>>messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
From: Tony Olivero
Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 9:02AM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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WS works well with SRs. The interface to the enterprise server is ij browser.
Sent from my wireless phone. Pith is intentional; typos or perceived
abruptness are not.
On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:16, "Birkir R. Gunnarsson"
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi
> @jared: Will you guys take extra care to make sure this new tool will
> be accessible for SR users? There were problems with the Wave toolbar
> I know, I have tried the online version of the new Wave v5 and am very
> happy with it, will try toolbar this week.
>
> @tony (or anyone who knows): how accessible is Worldspace with a
> screen reader (Fire Eyes works, or some aspect of it, I have some
> small issues with others, but I have only tried it for a relatively
> short time).
>
> Thanks
> -Birkir
>
>
> On 4/17/12, Bourne, Sarah (ITD) < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> Angela,
>>
>> Here are the validation and testing tools we've found:
>> https://wiki.state.ma.us/confluence/display/assistivetechnologygroup/Accessibility+Validation+Solutions+and+Tools
>>
>> (Jared, looking forward to adding Big WAVE when it's available.)
>>
>> sb
>>
>> Sarah E. Bourne
>> Director of Assistive Technology &
>> Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
>> Information Technology Division
>> Commonwealth of Massachusetts
>> 1 Ashburton Pl. rm 1601 Boston MA 02108
>> 617-626-4502
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> http://www.mass.gov/itd
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:39 PM
>> To: 'WebAim Forum ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )'; 'University and College
>> Webmasters ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )'
>> Subject: [WebAIM] site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
>>
>> Hello,
>> As I begin to see light at the end of the tunnel on hand-fixing each html
>> page of our site for accessibility issues, I am trying to research any
>> enterprise level automated tools that can check for issues site wide. I am
>> aware of, by name only, Compliance Sheriff by HiSoftware, and AMP by SSB
>> Bart Group. If you know of others, or have feedback you would like to offer
>> on your experience with these produces, I would appreciate hearing from you.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Angela French
>> Internet Specialist
>> State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
>> 360-704-4316
>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> http://www.checkoutacollege.com/
>> http://sbctc.edu <http://sbctc.edu%20>;
>>
>> >> >> messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >> >> >>
> > >
From: Andrews, David B (DEED)
Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 9:05AM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibility auditing
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This is a good resource -- thank you! At the risk of seeming like a jerk, on a quick read (listen) through, I noticed two typos:
"You should also have a good understand of the various methodologies used to evaluate applications, websites, and information content for compliance with"
Think it should be "understanding".
Further down, it lists a tool from what I think is Toronto but there is typo.
Thanks again.
Dave
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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:53 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
Angela,
Here are the validation and testing tools we've found: https://wiki.state.ma.us/confluence/display/assistivetechnologygroup/Accessibility+Validation+Solutions+and+Tools
(Jared, looking forward to adding Big WAVE when it's available.)
sb
Sarah E. Bourne
Director of Assistive Technology &
Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
Information Technology Division
Commonwealth of Massachusetts
1 Ashburton Pl. rm 1601 Boston MA 02108
617-626-4502
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
http://www.mass.gov/itd
-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:39 PM
To: 'WebAim Forum ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )'; 'University and College Webmasters ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )'
Subject: [WebAIM] site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
Hello,
As I begin to see light at the end of the tunnel on hand-fixing each html page of our site for accessibility issues, I am trying to research any enterprise level automated tools that can check for issues site wide. I am aware of, by name only, Compliance Sheriff by HiSoftware, and AMP by SSB Bart Group. If you know of others, or have feedback you would like to offer on your experience with these produces, I would appreciate hearing from you.
Thank you,
Angela French
Internet Specialist
State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
360-704-4316
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
http://www.checkoutacollege.com/
http://sbctc.edu <http://sbctc.edu%20>;
From: Jared Smith
Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 9:30AM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Angela French wrote:
> Are you able to provide an estimated range for the cost?
We're still working out the details. We know that we will provide a
certain number of API calls for free. So if you have a small site and
simply want to check for issues on all pages perhaps once a month, or
if you're only wanting an easy way to spot check certain pages it
would be free. More significant API calls (meaning thousands or more)
will probably be provided on a subscription or per hit basis. More
advanced functionality will be rolling out later in the year. We want
it to be inexpensive, yet still provide some means for us to fund
continued WAVE development. The core WAVE functionality (online
version and toolbars) is and always will be free.
Jared
From: Rakesh
Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 11:13AM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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I have tested the beta version of wave a couple of weeks back and just
now as well. New wave is providing many options and more accessible for
screen reader users. However I have found the following.
As a screen reader user I have been not able to find the information
provided by the image after the check box with the error message
(heading level 4) saying "Graphic 1" by JAWS and NVDA.
After the image "JAWS" is reading "link #" and then "Graphic more
information". NVDA is not recognizing the "Link #" as link and it is
reading as clickable.
Thanks & Regards
Rakesh
On 4/17/2012 8:32 PM, Tony Olivero wrote:
> WS works well with SRs. The interface to the enterprise server is ij browser.
>
> Sent from my wireless phone. Pith is intentional; typos or perceived
> abruptness are not.
>
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:16, "Birkir R. Gunnarsson"
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> @jared: Will you guys take extra care to make sure this new tool will
>> be accessible for SR users? There were problems with the Wave toolbar
>> I know, I have tried the online version of the new Wave v5 and am very
>> happy with it, will try toolbar this week.
>>
>> @tony (or anyone who knows): how accessible is Worldspace with a
>> screen reader (Fire Eyes works, or some aspect of it, I have some
>> small issues with others, but I have only tried it for a relatively
>> short time).
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Birkir
>>
>>
>> On 4/17/12, Bourne, Sarah (ITD)< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>> Angela,
>>>
>>> Here are the validation and testing tools we've found:
>>> https://wiki.state.ma.us/confluence/display/assistivetechnologygroup/Accessibility+Validation+Solutions+and+Tools
>>>
>>> (Jared, looking forward to adding Big WAVE when it's available.)
>>>
>>> sb
>>>
>>> Sarah E. Bourne
>>> Director of Assistive Technology&
>>> Mass.Gov Chief Technology Strategist
>>> Information Technology Division
>>> Commonwealth of Massachusetts
>>> 1 Ashburton Pl. rm 1601 Boston MA 02108
>>> 617-626-4502
>>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>> http://www.mass.gov/itd
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>> [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Angela French
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:39 PM
>>> To: 'WebAim Forum ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )'; 'University and College
>>> Webmasters ( = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = )'
>>> Subject: [WebAIM] site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> As I begin to see light at the end of the tunnel on hand-fixing each html
>>> page of our site for accessibility issues, I am trying to research any
>>> enterprise level automated tools that can check for issues site wide. I am
>>> aware of, by name only, Compliance Sheriff by HiSoftware, and AMP by SSB
>>> Bart Group. If you know of others, or have feedback you would like to offer
>>> on your experience with these produces, I would appreciate hearing from you.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Angela French
>>> Internet Specialist
>>> State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
>>> 360-704-4316
>>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>> http://www.checkoutacollege.com/
>>> http://sbctc.edu<;http://sbctc.edu%20>;
>>>
>>> >>> >>> messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >> >> > > >
From: Jared Smith
Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 11:58AM
Subject: Re: site-wide automated accessibiity auditing
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Thanks Rakesh. I'm happy to hear that there is good accessibility in
the beta. The issue you identified is caused because the "More
information" image is not within the link, but should be. This will be
addressed in a future update. We'll be rolling out a significant beta
update and doing an "official" beta launch real soon at
http://five.wave.webaim.org/
Jared