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From: Lovely, Brian (CONT)
Date: Thu, Aug 10 2017 12:49PM
Subject: aria-relevant question
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An automated tool is calling out aria-relevant="additions removals" as incorrect, but I thought that was a valid value for this attribute. Is this a false positive or is "additions removals" an invalid value?


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From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Thu, Aug 10 2017 1:10PM
Subject: Re: aria-relevant question
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Hi,
I've never seen this combination before, what is the author trying to do? Basically that combination is saying that newly added nodes should be announced as well as newly added ones, which would be very confusing.

The following section describes what each token value should do when applied if it helps:
http://whatsock.com/training/#hd25

(Which isn't to say that these combinations actually do this correctly in screen readers.)



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Subject: [WebAIM] aria-relevant question

An automated tool is calling out aria-relevant="additions removals" as incorrect, but I thought that was a valid value for this attribute. Is this a false positive or is "additions removals" an invalid value?


Brian Lovely
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From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Thu, Aug 10 2017 1:12PM
Subject: Re: aria-relevant question
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Sorry, I miswrote that, this combo is saying that both newly added nodes plus newly removed ones should both be announced, which is confusing. :)


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Hi,
I've never seen this combination before, what is the author trying to do? Basically that combination is saying that newly added nodes should be announced as well as newly added ones, which would be very confusing.

The following section describes what each token value should do when applied if it helps:
http://whatsock.com/training/#hd25

(Which isn't to say that these combinations actually do this correctly in screen readers.)



Bryan Garaventa
Accessibility Fellow
Level Access, Inc.
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415.624.2709 (o)
www.LevelAccess.com

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Subject: [WebAIM] aria-relevant question

An automated tool is calling out aria-relevant="additions removals" as incorrect, but I thought that was a valid value for this attribute. Is this a false positive or is "additions removals" an invalid value?


Brian Lovely
Digital Accessibility Team
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From: Lovely, Brian (CONT)
Date: Thu, Aug 10 2017 1:17PM
Subject: Re: aria-relevant question
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Ah, OK. I'm not sure what they intend, as it's a partner site. I'm eyeballing automated results in order to clean out any false positives and I wasn't sure if this qualified or not. Sounds to me like this is a true positive. Thanks Bryan!

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Sorry, I miswrote that, this combo is saying that both newly added nodes plus newly removed ones should both be announced, which is confusing. :)


Bryan Garaventa
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Hi,
I've never seen this combination before, what is the author trying to do? Basically that combination is saying that newly added nodes should be announced as well as newly added ones, which would be very confusing.

The following section describes what each token value should do when applied if it helps:
http://whatsock.com/training/#hd25

(Which isn't to say that these combinations actually do this correctly in screen readers.)



Bryan Garaventa
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Level Access, Inc.
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www.LevelAccess.com

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Subject: [WebAIM] aria-relevant question

An automated tool is calling out aria-relevant="additions removals" as incorrect, but I thought that was a valid value for this attribute. Is this a false positive or is "additions removals" an invalid value?


Brian Lovely
Digital Accessibility Team
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From: Beranek, Nicholas
Date: Thu, Aug 10 2017 2:42PM
Subject: Re: aria-relevant question
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Brian, do they have an aria-live or a role of status, log, or alert? If not, then that may be what's throwing the error.

Nick

> On Aug 10, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Lovely, Brian (CONT) via WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
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> An automated tool is calling out aria-relevant="additions removals" as incorrect, but I thought that was a valid value for this attribute. Is this a false positive or is "additions removals" an invalid value?
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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Thu, Aug 10 2017 5:55PM
Subject: Re: aria-relevant question
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Good call Nick

There must be an aria-live attribute, or one of the live region roles,
status, log, alert, marquee or timer.
I agree with Bryan, it's very unusual that users want removal of text
or nodes announced. There may be some situations , but in that case,
just use aria-relevant="all".



On 8/10/17, Beranek, Nicholas via WebAIM-Forum
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> Brian, do they have an aria-live or a role of status, log, or alert? If not,
> then that may be what's throwing the error.
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> Nick
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>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Lovely, Brian (CONT) via WebAIM-Forum
>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
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>> An automated tool is calling out aria-relevant="additions removals" as
>> incorrect, but I thought that was a valid value for this attribute. Is
>> this a false positive or is "additions removals" an invalid value?
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>> Brian Lovely
>> Digital Accessibility Team
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From: Lovely, Brian (CONT)
Date: Fri, Aug 11 2017 7:02AM
Subject: Re: aria-relevant question
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They do. The specific error message is "This element's aria-relevant attribute should only include one or more of the following text values: additions | additions text | all | removals | text.". since the value of the attribute is set to "additions removals", that would seem to fit the pattern of "one or more of the following text values".

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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] aria-relevant question

Brian, do they have an aria-live or a role of status, log, or alert? If not, then that may be what's throwing the error.

Nick

> On Aug 10, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Lovely, Brian (CONT) via WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
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> An automated tool is calling out aria-relevant="additions removals" as incorrect, but I thought that was a valid value for this attribute. Is this a false positive or is "additions removals" an invalid value?
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> Brian Lovely
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