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From: pratik roy
Date: Fri, Aug 18 2017 3:42PM
Subject: NVDA not reading fieldset grouping for checkboxes when...
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Hi Everyone,

NVDA is not reading the grouping when TAB is used to enter into fieldset
from a link/button. As per my analysis, it is not changing reading mode to
'form/focus mode' from 'browse/document mode'.
I read the same scenario after manually changing the mode using
INSERT+SPACE and then it started reading correctly.
This is working fine with JAWS though. Please let me know if anyone
experienced a similar issue. If it is a genuine bug then any communication
with NV Access would also help.

Thanks & Regards
PRATIK ROY

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Fri, Aug 18 2017 4:05PM
Subject: Re: NVDA not reading fieldset grouping for checkboxes when...
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This is an old NVDA bug (3327) that has not been fixed:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3321

NVDA only reads group labels in application mode, but checkboxes do
not trigger application mode.
If you put a text input of radio buttons in there, NVDA would start
eading the legend when you tab to those.
Ultimately this is an NVDA bug and NVDA needs to provide a fix.
You could use aria-describedby to associate the first checkvbox in the
group with the legend as a workaround.



On 8/18/17, pratik roy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> NVDA is not reading the grouping when TAB is used to enter into fieldset
> from a link/button. As per my analysis, it is not changing reading mode to
> 'form/focus mode' from 'browse/document mode'.
> I read the same scenario after manually changing the mode using
> INSERT+SPACE and then it started reading correctly.
> This is working fine with JAWS though. Please let me know if anyone
> experienced a similar issue. If it is a genuine bug then any communication
> with NV Access would also help.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> PRATIK ROY
> > > > >


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From: Pratik Patel
Date: Sat, Aug 19 2017 4:00PM
Subject: Re: NVDA not reading fieldset grouping for checkboxeswhen...
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A fix for this problem is incubating in the NVDA development snapshots. If all goes well, I suspect the fix will show up in the NVDA 2017-4 public release.

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From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 6:05 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] NVDA not reading fieldset grouping for checkboxes when...

This is an old NVDA bug (3327) that has not been fixed:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3321

NVDA only reads group labels in application mode, but checkboxes do
not trigger application mode.
If you put a text input of radio buttons in there, NVDA would start
eading the legend when you tab to those.
Ultimately this is an NVDA bug and NVDA needs to provide a fix.
You could use aria-describedby to associate the first checkvbox in the
group with the legend as a workaround.



On 8/18/17, pratik roy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> NVDA is not reading the grouping when TAB is used to enter into fieldset
> from a link/button. As per my analysis, it is not changing reading mode to
> 'form/focus mode' from 'browse/document mode'.
> I read the same scenario after manually changing the mode using
> INSERT+SPACE and then it started reading correctly.
> This is working fine with JAWS though. Please let me know if anyone
> experienced a similar issue. If it is a genuine bug then any communication
> with NV Access would also help.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> PRATIK ROY
> > > > >


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Work hard. Have fun. Make history.

From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Sat, Aug 19 2017 8:30PM
Subject: Re: NVDA not reading fieldset grouping for checkboxes when...
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Yay! I love bugs that get fixed, which is why NVDA is so exciting.

On 8/19/17, Pratik Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> A fix for this problem is incubating in the NVDA development snapshots. If
> all goes well, I suspect the fix will show up in the NVDA 2017-4 public
> release.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 6:05 PM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] NVDA not reading fieldset grouping for checkboxes
> when...
>
> This is an old NVDA bug (3327) that has not been fixed:
> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3321
>
> NVDA only reads group labels in application mode, but checkboxes do
> not trigger application mode.
> If you put a text input of radio buttons in there, NVDA would start
> eading the legend when you tab to those.
> Ultimately this is an NVDA bug and NVDA needs to provide a fix.
> You could use aria-describedby to associate the first checkvbox in the
> group with the legend as a workaround.
>
>
>
> On 8/18/17, pratik roy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> NVDA is not reading the grouping when TAB is used to enter into fieldset
>> from a link/button. As per my analysis, it is not changing reading mode to
>> 'form/focus mode' from 'browse/document mode'.
>> I read the same scenario after manually changing the mode using
>> INSERT+SPACE and then it started reading correctly.
>> This is working fine with JAWS though. Please let me know if anyone
>> experienced a similar issue. If it is a genuine bug then any communication
>> with NV Access would also help.
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>> PRATIK ROY
>> >> >> >> >>
>
>
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> Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > > > >
> > > > >


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From: Mallory
Date: Mon, Aug 21 2017 9:06AM
Subject: Re: NVDA not reading fieldset grouping for checkboxes when...
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zomg yes!

This bug has caused some confusion in some of our apps when QA switched
from testing a form in JAWS to testing in NVDA.

great to hear
Mallory

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017, at 04:30 AM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
> Yay! I love bugs that get fixed, which is why NVDA is so exciting.
>
> On 8/19/17, Pratik Patel < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > A fix for this problem is incubating in the NVDA development snapshots. If
> > all goes well, I suspect the fix will show up in the NVDA 2017-4 public
> > release.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf
> > Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
> > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 6:05 PM
> > To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] NVDA not reading fieldset grouping for checkboxes
> > when...
> >
> > This is an old NVDA bug (3327) that has not been fixed:
> > https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3321
> >
> > NVDA only reads group labels in application mode, but checkboxes do
> > not trigger application mode.
> > If you put a text input of radio buttons in there, NVDA would start
> > eading the legend when you tab to those.
> > Ultimately this is an NVDA bug and NVDA needs to provide a fix.
> > You could use aria-describedby to associate the first checkvbox in the
> > group with the legend as a workaround.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/18/17, pratik roy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> NVDA is not reading the grouping when TAB is used to enter into fieldset
> >> from a link/button. As per my analysis, it is not changing reading mode to
> >> 'form/focus mode' from 'browse/document mode'.
> >> I read the same scenario after manually changing the mode using
> >> INSERT+SPACE and then it started reading correctly.
> >> This is working fine with JAWS though. Please let me know if anyone
> >> experienced a similar issue. If it is a genuine bug then any communication
> >> with NV Access would also help.
> >>
> >> Thanks & Regards
> >> PRATIK ROY
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >>
> >
> >
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> > Work hard. Have fun. Make history.
> > > > > > > > > >
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>
>
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