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From: Gareth Dart
Date: Aug 22, 2007 3:10AM


I'm renaming the thread as above.

Hi Sawang,

This is a bit of an old chestnut that pops up on the list from time to
time - if you search the list archives* you'll find that several reviews
of Content Management Systems have been carried out by contributors to
the list far more erudite than myself and posted on their blogs, etc:
the archives will contain links.

To get the ball rolling, though, I've found Joomla! 1.0.x to be
reasonably easy to adapt to produce accessible markup - at least to
Priority 1 standards (and indications were good for Priority 2). I seem
to recall that the consensus last time we all had this discussion was
that none of the CMSs produced completely accessible markup, but that
some were definitely better than others, and, in particular, open-source
solutions were better than proprietary ones (even if the reason was only
because one could edit the source code). I could be wrong, though -
search the archives.

One important point was that it was critical to ensure that your content
authors received training in web accessibility, if it was in your power
to do so - it quickly becomes a problem if they continually produce
inaccessible markup.

Cheers,

Gareth

* - The list archives can be searched here:
http://www.webaim.org/discussion/archives.php



-----Original Message-----
From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Sawang Srisom
Sent: Wednesday 22 August 2007 03:03
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] form label question

Dear all,

Does anyone here happen to know any accessible content management system
(CMS)? I've been searching for it for weeks but cannot really find a
good one.

Best regards,

Sawang Srisom

-----Original Message-----
From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jon Gunderson
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:58 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] form label question

You can use the Firefox Accessibility Extension to test form controls
for proper labeling with the Firefox Browser.

http://firefox.cita.uiuc.edu

Jon


---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 22:55:21 -0600
>From: "Jared Smith" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] form label question
>To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>
>On 8/9/07, Sawang Srisom wrote:
>
>> <label for="gender1 gender2">Gender</label> <input type="radio"
>> name="gender" id="gender1" value="Male"
>> checked="checked" /> Male<br />
>> <input type="radio" name="gender" id="gender2" value="Female"
>> checked="checked" /> Female
>
>In this case, "Male" and "Female" should be the labels for their
>appropriate radio buttons. "Gender" should not be marked up as a label.

>It could and probably should, however, be a legend for a fieldset that
>surrounds the two radio buttons.
>
>Examples and proper coding at
http://webaim.org/techniques/forms/controls.php
>
>I think what we're all saying is that labels are necessary for
>accessibility. There are few cases when they might pose design and
>usability issues and in those cases, it must be visually and
>programmatically (through title, row/column headers, etc.) apparent
>what the function of the form element is.
>
>Jared Smith
>WebAIM
>