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From: Robinson, Norman B
Date: Dec 12, 2007 4:00PM

That is the information I was after: you are referencing a textual
sentence and not the behavior from an actual layout table.

In that case, there isn't much you can do, as each assistive technology
will use the accessibility API and the information passed differently.
It will also be spoken differently depending on the narration
software/engine itself.

I'd suggest rewording or rechunking your information. "The following
table is used for layout. It has two rows for Student A and Student B
and three columns, containing their first, second, and third grades for
the semester." or something similar.

And I'll close with a comment that if you are passing the words through
the API to simulate assistive technology - obtain the assistive
technologies and test instead. Sorry, it is just that I have no clue to
what you are doing - best of luck though!

Regards,

Norman B. Robinson



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Alexander
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Screen reader question

Hi Norman,

>I take it you want this to read with assistive technology
Yes, we are a tool vendor and we are passing this text to Microsoft
Active Accessibility API. But the problem can be reproduce simply by
reading this text in a Notepad file. The length of the phrase seems to
affect this as well. The screen reader seems to read this okay:

Row 2, Column 3

But it has problems with:

Layout table 1, Rows 2, Columns 3

I also noticed that words in plural form, such as "rows" as opposed to
"row", also affects where the pause is placed.

Regards,
-Vlad
http://xstandard.com


-------- Original Message --------
From: Robinson, Norman B
Date: 2007-12-12 5:09 PM
> Vlad,
>
> 1. Do you have a source file/table you can provide that you are
> using?
> 2. I take it you want this to read with assistive technology,
not
> that you simply wish to generate an audio file.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Norman B. Robinson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Vlad
> Alexander
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:01 PM
> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> Subject: [WebAIM] Screen reader question
>
> Hi,
>
> Would anyone know how to solve the following problem. We need screen
> readers to speak the following phrase, pausing at the commas (or other
> punctuation):
>
> "Table 1, row 2, column 3"
>
> Currently, the phrase is being spoken as follows:
>
> "Table, 1 row, 2 columns, 3"
>
> ..because the pauses are occurring in the wrong place, and altering
> the meaning of the phrase.
>
> Would anyone know how to force a pause in a middle of text? The
> solution we are looking for should not be specific to a given screen
> reader/version.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> -Vlad
> http://xstandard.com
>
>
>
>