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From: M Akram Danish
Date: Jan 12, 2009 3:45PM

Thanks Cliff ,

I understand all of your points.

when I read something like "there are not many people who use" it remind me that excuse that many  parties use. They say we don't need slope / ramp none of our customer use wheelchair. We don't need vibrator no deaf customer staying in our hotel, and according to our government PWDs are just 2.4%. Ratio must not be the excuse.

about websites a standard solution sure that would be the best option. I don't think Control-Shift-+ work with IE 6, nor it worked with firfox 3.0.5. I don't know about IE but with Firfox Ctrl - + and Ctrl - - worked fine. I think if Browser use same shortcut that would be great.

Also it may not be good to use resize tex button in the webpage but may be a standard Accessibility bar can be developed. that will elemiante the need of such resize button in our web pages (is there such bar exist ?)

Few things I'd like to share from my expereince. I am teaching online to Persons with Disabilities, they all using computer since some time many are using since years but

- they don't know much about their browser
- they even donw know if they are using Internet Explorer or what
- they have no knowlwedge about the version

if visitor unable to read well he / she may simply leave instead of reading how he / she can set his / her browser. some feel frustration as they are not surfing that web to learn teach things.

I always think that giving them eas in navigation and funcationaly in the web page would be great,  but same time I undertand that everone implementing his / own solution and it may ends up with more confusion for end-user.

again if browser developer agree with some standard that would be best for all of us.

besides I'd like to ask will it be handy to dedicate the opearting system, browser, and its version with script, then disply on the related instruction for accessibility insteading of asking if you are using this then do this if using this then do this ?

In another post someone said about Sign Languge, yes this is fact that even the navigation links need to be interprete as many deaf people can't read spoken language. That is a big issue and will open more related issues. eSign is a good effort.

Akram





Akram, I don't think any of us is suggesting that we should not worry
about people with disabilities. Each of us in this forum is working
diligently to ensure that our Web sites are easy for everyone to use.

We're discussing these two general issues:

1.
Should each Web site reproduce functions that improve accessibility but
are already present in every computer's operating system, every
browser, or both? (For example, should every one of us come up with our
own text resize button?)

2. Should each Web site have its own
extended explanation of how to use the features that are built in to
each operating system and browser? (Should we all do as the BBC has
done?)

As for the first issue, if I spend time reproducing
something you already have, then I will have to spend less time
reviewing the content that is unique to my Web site. As a result, I
will be less able to make sure that content is fully accessible. Also,
whatever I develop to reproduce the features already built into your
operating system and browser is not likely to be as useful as those
features. For example, the resize button on the BBC's site doesn't
change the font size by very much. I don't know how they decided how
big is "big enough," but their biggest option is not big enough for me
to read without my glasses unless I get uncomfortably close to the
screen. But a simple feature that is in every browser and operating
system I know of lets me read any Web page that is properly coded. All
I have to do is press "Control-Shift-+" until the text gets big enough
to work for me. (You can also press "Control-Hyphen" to make the text
smaller.)

And as for the second issue, I really don't think you
want me to explain how each operating system and browser works. It
would take me a very long time to develop and verify each explanation
needed. By the time I finished that project, there would be many new
versions of operating systems and browsers available. Yes, it is very
important to have that information available, but you need the people
who developed and tested your system and software to explain how its
features work, because they at least know how it is supposed to work.

You
are important to us. But I can best help you by focusing on making my
agency's Web site accessible (we have a long way to go), not by
creating my own version of a solution to a problem that has already
been solved.

Thanks for participating in this discussion!

Cliff

>>> M Akram Danish < <EMAIL REMOVED> > 1/11/2009 10:17 AM >>>
I am deaf and I used glasses, not blind though

I
can see well and when I have to overview the page I don't need to
resize the text, but when i start reading any lengthy content I prefer
larger text, when I didn't know how to change the size from browser
menu, resize button was helpful. But yes there might NOT be so many
such people so why worry about them?

and according to your Government Persons with Disabilities are of just 2.4% , only only 2.4%.......... .......................

Akram