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Re: JAWS 10 and Hidden Text

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From: Randi
Date: Mar 23, 2009 4:10PM


Interesting. So Voiceover passed the test. I'm enjoying seeing that
Voiceover so far matches Jaws. Why would you want content to be
hidden? Is it like a security thing, where things are hidden, but that
Jaws was reading?

On 3/23/09, Terrill Thompson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hi Randi,
>
> You're correct - I expected Test 1 (using visibility:hidden) and Test 2
> (using display:none) to both be hidden visibly, as well as hidden to screen
> reader users. Test 3 is hidden by positioning text off screen, which has
> become a widely accepted means of hiding content visibly that you want
> screen readers to read.
>
> My initial concern when I saw the JAWS "bug fix" was that they might have
> "fixed" the off-screen positioning solution. Fortunately that's not the
> case.
>
> Jared correctly pointed out that the JAWS fix applies to a bug documented in
> a Juicy Studio article, where JAWS was erroneously reading content hidden
> using display:none, but only under certain very specific circumstances (only
> on span elements nested within anchor tags).
>
> Terry
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto:webaim-forum-
>> <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Randi
>> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:43 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] JAWS 10 and Hidden Text
>>
>> Hi there. I'm just curious if Test 1 and Test 2 were supposed to show
>> anything or not? Because using Voiceover there was nothing under those
>> headings after the description. Test 3 worked just fine.
>>
>> Was that what you are trying to see? Because if there's supposed to be
>> content there for the first 2 tests, then Voiceover did not read it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Randi
>>
>> On 3/23/09, Jared Smith < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> > I believe they may have addressed the instances outlined here -
>> > http://juicystudio.com/article/screen-readers-display-none.php -
>> where
>> > content hidden with display:none was being read by JAWS.
>> >
>> > If this is indeed the case, then this is a very good thing as content
>> > that is truly hidden with CSS should never be identified by screen
>> > readers.
>> >
>> > Jared Smith
>> > WebAIM
>> >