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Re: Site review please
From: Stephan Wehner
Date: Nov 17, 2010 5:51PM
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On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Terrill Bennett
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> Stephan,
>
Thanks so much. Just what I was looking for!
> 0) Great use of heading levels. Mostly easy to navigate with a screen
> reader. I also had little trouble navigating using the keyboard only.
Good. I am guessing you signed up and signed in.
>
> 1) On the main site, and I'm guessing here, it seems that users who
> upload an avatar that the graphic inherits the users name. For users
> that don't upload one, the graphic gets read as the name of the image
> - which is REAL ugly!
>
> Suggestion: On user avatars and other decorative images (of which
> there are few), force an empty ALT attribute on the image ( e.g.
> alt="" ) . We don't need to hear the user's name twice (once for the
> avatar, once for their name under the avatar) if they've uploaded an
> avatar, and the ugly name is even worse.
Ok forced empty alt + title
>
> 2) Seems the song titles become headings - sweet for navigational
> purposes! But, a user named "Adam" broadcast a message with no song
> link. Therefore, no heading. Once I start navigating using headings,
> I miss plain-old messages.
>
> Suggestion: Add a heading saying "Tweet" or "Message" or "Extra!
> Extra! Read All About It!" or... well, something. If you don't want
> it cluttering up your interface, make it off-page text using CSS so
> sighted users don't see it.
>
Heading is now <h3>From [username] Artist -name: Song name Album:Album name</h3>
where names only appear if available. In particular if it is a message
"without song attached"
it just says <h3>From [username]</h3>
I don't think that is that too much in a heading?
> 3) The white letters on a light blue background on selected tabs
> could be an issue for some. You may want to view your pages through
> the eyes of others. A set of colorblind tests (still under
> development, but useful):
> http://colorfilter.wickline.org/
>
> JuicyStudio color and contrast tests had the following failures:
>
Ok colours are always the hardest. We're redoing that kind of stuff soon.
> === Home Page (before login) ==> Luminosity Contrast Ratio: 5
> Difference in Brightness: 5
> Difference in Colour: 7
>
> === Main Page (after login) ==> Luminosity Contrast Ratio: 46
> Difference in Brightness: 46
> Difference in Colour: 102
>
> Get your own JuicyStudios toolbar for FireFox:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9108/
>
> 4) The a11y tool gave your site (after login) an overall grade of
> "B." F's were given on link purpose (28 violations), contrast (104
> elements in violation, and 127 that need manual checking, which I
> didn't), and use of deprecated elements (<b>) (23 total).
>
> Get your own A11Y Inspector, here (requires the Firebug tool):
> (1) http://getfirebug.com/
> (2) http://code.google.com/p/ainspector/
Thanks for mentioning this tool!
>
> 5) I zoomed using Firefox WELL beyond 200% and your site didn't fall
> apart! I didn't have to scroll left and right using the arrow keys
> until about 600% in a 1024x768 window.
>
Wouldn't have thought to try that! But the minimalist design makes it
easy to pass such
a test
> 6) The site maintains structure when styles are turned off.
>
> While the some of the above may sound like things have gone horribly
> wrong, I had little problems with navigation, forms, etc. Some people
> with colorblindness and others with certain forms of visual issues
> may have difficulty. I certainly would hit the panic button, but
> there's room for improvements.
Well, one thing at a time. See above.
If you don't mind, did you manage to locate "Add song" form, and work with it?
Also there's a "bookmarklet" under the account section. I don't know
if something
like that is useful in the context of accessibilty. Please let me know
if you have time.
It lets you post to songfountain when you are on a different site
(presumably like youtube)
super easy.
> I have links to numerous tools and browser plugins, if you're interested, here:
> http://bennett1.org/j15/accessibility/accessibility-links
>
> It wasn't a complete evaluation by any means, but the best I could do
> for ya in an hour - the cats are looking at me with hunger in their
> eyes and licking their lips!
>
> Nice site - good idea - wish I'd though of it!
>
Oh thanks. Wasn't my idea :-) Partner Kian's, who contacted me as a
developer. I'll pass it on.
> Hope this helps!
Thanks for all of that! Very helpful.
Stephan
>
> -- terrill --
>
>
>
> At 03:08 PM 11/17/2010, you wrote:
>>We're just building a website called songfountain.com ... in short,
>>it's a cross between delicious, twitter and
>>reddit, but only for song links (I don't even know if twitter,
>>delicious, or reddit are accessible.) We just launched on
>>the weekend, and trying to keep up a strong pace with respect to
>>adding features, fixing problems.
>>
>>Could you provide pointers to improvements with respect to
>>accessibility? It does require signing up to see the
>>functionality at the moment.
>>
>>The full web address is http://songfountain.com/
>>
>>Help is much appreciated!
>>
>>Stephan
>>
>>--
>>Stephan Wehner
>>
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>>-> http://twitter.com/stephanwehner / @stephanwehner
>>
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