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Re: LongDesc for documents, not websites


From: Bevi Chagnon | PubCom
Date: Apr 21, 2011 6:51AM

Just to reiterate, the solution must work for stand alone documents (mainly
Word and PDF files), as well as websites.
Also, the people creating these documents have no control over the
government agency's website and where the documents will eventually reside
on the site.


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-----Original Message-----
The approach mentioned below is what we do in our online courses. The
difference is that we have developed a JavaScript that allows us to use the
"hide and show" function. In this way the user is not taken out of the page
and the description is available to anyone. The student clicks on the
"transcript" link and this expands a section within the page that shows the
The four points mentioned below are very valid and I agree that when
considering accessibility we are talking not only about blind users but for


-----Original Message-----

Hello Grignon,
I appreciate your thought, but remember accessibility is not only for
Screen reader users. Why you need so many jumpings?
As our other experts said, i suggest to use a "discription" link at end of
each graph or chart, once the user click on description, it'll take you to
the description in the same page, where two "back" links one to resumed
position and another to top take you to the resumed position and top
This will benefit:
1 A screen reader user can locate the description of the graph or chart
2 A cognitive user can look the description of the chart or graph easily.
3 A motor impaired user can locate descriptions with minimal keystrokes if
he/she needed.
4 Benefits every one by reducing document scrolling.

Best Regards,

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Will Grignon
< <EMAIL REMOVED> >wrote:

> Why not create the master document and a description document? The
> blind user can read the master and, when he/she encounters a described
> graphic,
> ALT+TAB to the description document to get the full description, then
> ALT+TAB back to the master to resume reading. I am a blind screen
> ALT+reader
> user and it's a pain to jump to the back of a document to find an
> endnote then jump back to where I had left off, but it is relatively
> easy to read a master document, jump over to a secondary document,
> then jump back to the master at the point I had left it to read the
secondary document.