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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Dec 9, 2011 6:03PM

Thanks John, thanks all.

I'll ask the two questions I had in mind for the general interest
then, in csae someone else may benefit, at least for now.
This one is very basic (and I admit, I should just go Google for it).
When reviewing a web page, I can easily review the html code (in IE by
going to tools -> source).
How about the CSS that a webpage uses, is it easily viewable from
within IE or with some other tool (I know, this is basic, but
important to an aspiring webpage inspector)?
I see no obvious reference to the CSS in Jaws with IE (could well be
hidden in the menus or an icon somewhere).
Do I perhaps need to upgrade to Firebug or some other software to
truly inspect webpages (I tend to do somewhat waterred down webpage
inspection, as I provide free feedback for webpage developers, and do
not want to compete with companies that provide fullfledged
accessibility certifications).

The second question is directly related to this.
I am trying to understand how an image carousel at http://www.hljodbok.is works.
To a screen reader, the page displays 4 links like this
http://www.hljodbok.is/#
at the top of the page (below the title and before the first list of
choices, which is basically features products).
This is due to, I believe, CSS creating a carousel with links to
product pictures elsehwere on the page, but it obviously poses
accessibility issues, since the urls just appear by themselves with no
useful text at the top.
I need to understand this in order to recommend either hiding these
links somehow, or adding text (I don't know if they are duplicates of
item that appears in the menu below on the page).
Basically I need to adopt better ways of working and better tools so I
can perform more in-depth analysis and not just ask here when I run
into issues. :) After all that would be monopolizing the list.
I'm on my way there now, by systematically studying and testing these
things, and it is a lot of fun. :)
Thanks
-Birkir


On 12/10/11, John Foliot < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hey Birkir,
>
> Happy to help if I can, although I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss your
> questions as being of 'little interest' to this mailing list, as often
> others have thought the same question and not spoken up, or one person
> raises a question and the answer informs others than the original question
> poser - in other words, no question is too basic or of little interest
> given the complexity and diversity of the members of this list.
>
> That said you can ping me at <EMAIL REMOVED> or via twitter at @johnfoliot
>
> Cheers!
>
> JF
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto:webaim-forum-
>> <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R. Gunnarsson
>> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 3:24 PM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: [WebAIM] Off-list help with some CSS/Javascript questions
>>
>> Hey everyone
>>
>> When I have a general and, in my estimation, informative for all,
>> question about accessibility, I like to post it to the list.
>> This list has been amazing in terms of providing information.
>> I am reading through books on html4/xhtml, css and Javascript to
>> really become a decent web accessibility tester and developer (I
>> started out in a bit of a pretender position because no one else would
>> do it, Ihave solid programming experience and a degree in comp sci,
>> but the web was a new world to me), but there are times I come across
>> something odd on a webpage, especially with regards to use of CSS, I
>> wouldn't mind getting some explanations on from a pro, just while I am
>> learning the ropes.
>> I was wondering if I could bounce a few questions of someone here, who
>> wouldn't mind giving me a few minutes of their time every now and
>> then, questions that would not seem to be of interest to the list as a
>> whole. These would be kept to a minimum.
>>
>> If some of you don't mind, please drop me an email off list.
>> Thanks and have a good weekend everyone.
>> -Birkir
>>