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From: Banning, Lynnette (ACF)
Date: Oct 4, 2002 9:15AM

Hello.
I have used LIFT and found it to be very useful. There is a major glitch
that can occur when repairing tables, however, using LIFT's built in tool
"Fix Wizard".

If you have a simple table that uses rowspan, the Fix Wizard incorrectly
interprets the table as a 'complex table' and assigns incorrect ids and
headers instead of just offering the solution of apply <th> tags or adding
the Scope attribute. It would be one thing if it assigned correct ids and
headers, but not only is the solution wrong, but the values are wrong. I
have had to resort to removing rowspans altogether in order to use LIFT.

Otherwise, it is a godsend..timesaver! If you have a properly coded nested
table and use LIFT correctly (after having removed all rowspans).. it
figures out the nested logic on its own and puts in all those dreaded ids
and corresponding headers for you.

Warning: LIFT isn't what you've been calling a 'magic bullet'. It is
always helpful to truly understand how to code tables first and then use
LIFT as a development tool.

I have found developer's (Usablenet) tech support very helpful on this..

Good luck!

Lynnette

Respectfully,
Lynnette Banning
Web Developer / Designer
Division of Application Development Services
ACF/HHS

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Thatcher [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:27 AM
To: WebAIM accessibility forum
Subject: RE: LIFT for creating accessible tables?


Hi Glenda.

I have not actually tried LIFT for Dreamweaver for marking up tables, but I
did see a demonstration and was very impressed. Their algorithms are clever
and provide headers and id markup for tables with spanning cells and other
complexities.

Jim
Accessibility Consulting
http://jimthatcher.com
512-306-0931
508 Web accessibility Tutorial: http://jimthatcher.com/webcourse1.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]On Behalf Of
Glenda Watson Hyatt
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 10:26 PM
To: WebAIM accessibility forum
Subject: LIFT for creating accessible tables?


Has anyone used LIFT for creating accessible tables? I may need to create
eighty-five complex tables and am looking for a way to simplify the process.
I'm looking at LIFT. Would anyone recommend / not recommend it?

Thanks,
Glenda

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