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Re: Best way to hide headings from visual users while keeping them in the outline

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From: Dave Merrill
Date: Apr 22, 2013 9:18AM

Thanks for the encouragement to do that. I downloaded it a bit ago, and
while time is an issue, my bigger worry was whether it would have other
effects on my system, and whether uninstalling it would likely succeed and
do a complete job. I need this machine, for work as well as personal use,
so I simply cannot afford to destabilize it in any significant way. That's
me being paranoid I know, but what you really care about you safeguard...

Is it people's experience that NVDA is pretty unintrusive once installed?
Would I be better of creating a portable install on a usb stick, which
looks to be possible?

Thanks,
Dave Merrill


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
<EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Dave
>
> If you have the time and are not afraid *blink*
> download NVDA
> http://www.nvda-project.org
> You can go to "preferences" "speech" and set speech out put to "none",
> then the text the screen reader would speak appears visually in a
> window.
> Then use h or shift-h to navigate to next or previous heading on a
> page, regardless of its level.
> Use keys 1 through 6 in the top row of your qwerty keyboard to go to
> next heading of that level.
> One caviat.
> If you have
> h1
> h2
> h1
> h3
>
> You can only get to the h3 by going to th second h1 heading first.
> Most screen readers only look at current level or higher. Once you get
> to a heading of same level or lower, they stop searching.
> You can use the "d" key to jump between aria landmarks on a page.
> I think 20 mins of playing with it will give you an insight into how
> it works for navigation pruposes. I know you may not have the time, no
> problem, but I just wanted to suggest the idea to ya.
> -B
>
> On 4/22/13, Dave Merrill < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > The offscreen behavior seems perfect, just what I was looking for.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jared Smith < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Dave Merrill wrote:
> >> > Do readers typically leave hidden content out of the outline?
> >>
> >> It depends on how it is hidden. If display:none or visibility:hidden,
> >> etc. is used, it is removed from the document altogether. If it's
> >> hidden off-screen or with CSS clip, then all of the semantics of that
> >> element remain intact. An heading that is visually hidden off-screen
> >> would still be part of the outline, appear in the heading list, be
> >> navigable, etc., as if it weren't hidden at all.
> >>
> >> Jared
> >> > >> > >> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dave Merrill
> > > > > > > >
> > > >



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Dave Merrill