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Re: Best practices for identifying forms and their fields

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From: Dave Merrill
Date: May 6, 2013 1:18PM

Good point Denis, and in theory we should honor aria-labelledby also.

However, in my context, I'm somewhat constrained, because the CMS this
belongs to isn't currently planned to have any way for content authors to
set any ARIA attributes besides landmark roles. Some version of both
attributes are on my shortlist for consideration as future features, but
I'm sure I can't get them in now.

Good idea though, thanks.

Dave Merrill


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Denis Boudreau < <EMAIL REMOVED> >wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> I think it would be advisable to point out that for improved consistency
> and support with assistive technologies and user agents, relying on the
> aria-label attribute rather than the title attribute would be a good idea.
> Going back to your logic, this would translate as:
>
> - If there's a label with text, show it
> - If not, and there's an aria-label attribute, show it, but suggest that
> there should be a visible label (if that's workable)
> - If not, and there's a title attribute, show it, but suggest that there
> should be either an aria-label attribute or a visible label (if that's
> workable)
> - If there's neither, show label, aria-label and title as missing,
> suggesting that a visible label should be used (if that's workable)
>
> Just a thought.
>
> /Denis
>
>
>
> On 2013-05-06, at 1:58 PM, Jared Smith < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Dave Merrill wrote:
> >
> >> You're saying that a field's title WILL be read if no label is present,
> as
> >> in your search box example, right?
> >
> > Correct.
> >
> >> If so, then in the context of an
> >> accessibility review tool in a CMS, the logic would be:
> >> - If there's a label with text, show it
> >> - If not, and there's a title, show it, but suggest that there should
> be a
> >> label if that's workable
> >> - If there's neither, show both label and title as missing, suggesting
> that
> >> lable should be used if that's workable
> >
> > Looks good to me. If there is visible label text, it should be
> > associated to the control. If not, then a title attribute can be used
> > to describe the control. If neither, then the function of the control
> > will be ambiguous.
> >
> > Jared
> > > > > > >
> > > >



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Dave Merrill