E-mail List Archives You are here: Home > Community > E-mail List Archives > View Message Re: Table footnotes <tfoot>, <figure> or <section> ? Search E-mail List Archives for From: Rabab GomaaDate: May 17, 2013 7:20AM Next message: Steve Faulkner: "Re: Table footnotes , or ?" Previous message: Pratik Patel: "Re: pay for accessibility testing?" Next message in Thread: Steve Faulkner: "Re: Table footnotes , or ?" Previous message in Thread: Steve Faulkner: "Re: Table footnotes , or ?" View all messages in this Thread Hi Steve, I am thinking of div instead of figure to group table with footnotes. What do you think? <div role="group"> <table> <!--TABLE HERE--> </table> <div role="note"> <section> <h2 class="wb-invisible">Footnotes</h2> <dl> <!--FOOTNOTES HERE--> </dl> </section> </div> </div> >>> Steve Faulkner < <EMAIL REMOVED> > 2013-05-17 8:49 AM >>> Hi Bevi, I am one of the editors of the HTML spec [1] Anybody can file a bug [2] against the HTML spec or send an email to the public html comments list [3] if they have constructive input. Unclear what your issue is with figure/figcaption, the semantics of the figure element is that its a grouping element. figcaption allows a programmatically associated caption to be added. images are the obvious use case but others are also covered. If you don't like the idea of using for content other than images then don't. [1] HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/> [2] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=HTML%20WG&component=HTML5%20spec&priority=P3 [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/ -- Regards SteveF On 16 May 2013 17:30, Chagnon | PubCom < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote: > Rabab wrote: "...- HTML 5 example specifies <figure> to code table > footnotes. However, we prefer not to use <figure> for data tables. ... > http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/common-idioms.html#footnotes." ( 'http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/common-idioms.html#footnotes."' ) > > Can't answer your question Rabab, but it brings up another related issue: > the use of one term <FIGURE> in 2 different ways. > > In PDFs, all graphical images are tagged with <FIGURE>. > > But in HTML 5, it's used for any content, not just graphics, that are > related to the main story content. > http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/grouping-content.html#the-figure-element "some > flow content, optionally with a caption, that is self-contained and is > typically referenced as a single unit from the main flow of the document." > > The specific reference above for tables reads: "A figure element is used to > give a single legend to the combination of the table and its footnotes." > > Never in my editorial mind would I ever call a table a figure, nor the > extracted poem in an HTML5 example on the W3C's website. Jeeze Louise, are > there any professional editors at the W3C who can step in and say "that's > not the best word for that item"? > > It would be so helpful to all communities, web developers and document > specialists, if the power players with the W3C could coordinate their use > of > the same tag. > > -Bevi Chagnon > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > www.PubCom.com - Trainers, Consultants, Designers, Developers. > Print, Web, Acrobat, XML, eBooks, and U.S. Federal Section 508 > Accessibility. > New schedule for classes and workshops coming in 2013. > > > > > > Next message: Steve Faulkner: "Re: Table footnotes , or ?" Previous message: Pratik Patel: "Re: pay for accessibility testing?" Next message in Thread: Steve Faulkner: "Re: Table footnotes , or ?" Previous message in Thread: Steve Faulkner: "Re: Table footnotes , or ?" View all messages in this Thread