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Re: Need accessible J Query apps recommendation

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From: Jacob Kruger
Date: Jul 22, 2013 6:42AM

Only problem have had with keyboard operability is that screenreaders like
jaws block passing keystrokes through, unless forms mode is turned on, etc.,
etc.

I have also used a combination of jQuery and another form of component to
try implementing real-time sound effects in webpages, but, for example, the
one sort of drum machine webpage I put together to test/try this out, works
because I'm handling keystrokes from a textbox, which then operates with
forms mode turned on in both jaws and NVDA, etc.

That's if you're talking about/meaning catching normal keystrokes, aside
from the screenreaders own navigation keystrokes?

And, in case, here's that drum machine:
http://www.blindza.co.za/sm2/

That page also uses javascript to try record timing of events, and then try
play the sequence back, but, doesn't work perfectly due to caching, etc.

But, will definitely have a look at that library as well.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message -----
From: "Weissenberger, Todd M" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation


> You might look at some of these widgets from Hans Hillen's Accessible
> jQuery UI Components library. From what I've seen, they're pretty solid
> in terms of keyboard operability. Not sure how ARIA-enhanced they are.
> We're evaluating them right now for our application development teams.
>
> http://access.aol.com/aegis/
>
> Regards,
> Todd
>
> T.M. Weissenberger
> Web Accessibility Coordinator
> University of Iowa
>
> > From: Jacob Kruger [ <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 3:27 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>
> The problem/fact is just that jQuery itself doesn't affect the
> accessibility
> of the content/output, but, it's just a wrapper/tool for making it
> easier/simpler to handle content manipulation, and implement dynamic HTML
> manipulation, etc., and, yes, that can be quite inaccessible/irritating -
> all I was saying is that jQuery itself isn't the issue...<smile>
>
> In other words, sorry, but, if the site developers don't want to
> cooperate,
> there wouldn't be too much you could do, other than trying to do something
> like the greaseMonkey wrapper I spoke of, since it might let you work
> around
> others accessibility implementation issues, but, that would also require
> quite a bit of exploration/investigation into their site's contents, and
> then some javascript scripting as well.
>
> There are also already greaseMonkey wrapper sharing sites out there where
> people share what they've put together for other sites, etc., but, don't
> think you'd necessarily find too many accessibility specific
> implementations
> already submitted/shared on them either, and it also really depends on the
> size of the target site's target market as well.
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tania" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>
>
>> Hi Jacob,
>> I don't know java or j query so your advice is incomprehensible to me.
>> Sigh...
>> Ever since that site 'upgraded', it was awful for the blind like me to
>> use it so I thought i'd ask the experts here for some useful tips to
>> make it less hellish.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> respectfully
>> tania
>>
>> On 7/21/2013 3:25 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
>>> Hi there - first post to list
>>>
>>> Anyway, jQuery itself isn't inaccessible, etc., but, it really depends
>>> on
>>> how you use it, what you want it to implement on a webpage, etc. etc. -
>>> I
>>> myself use it quite a lot, but, make sure it doesn't befuddle
>>> screenreaders,
>>> etc., and this includes using it to possibly toggle real-time sound
>>> effect
>>> playback, hide/display parts of webpage content, shift focus, etc. etc.
>>>
>>> And, while haven't checked out their website/webpage, another
>>> possibility
>>> have been considering for quite a while is implementing a use of
>>> something
>>> like the greaseMonkey javascript wrapper, which lets you apply your own
>>> forms of content manipulation to others website content, using a browser
>>> plug-in, and, it might specifically be feasible/usable in a case like
>>> this
>>> where you instead want to add custom handlers/wrappers for others
>>> content
>>> elements, etc.?
>>>
>>> Either way, like said, jQuery is, as I see it, just a form of wrapper
>>> around
>>> normal javascript DOM (document object model) to make it
>>> quicker/easier/simpler to then implement DOM manipulation/handling, but,
>>> it,
>>> in itself isn't inaccessible/accessible either way.
>>>
>>> Stay well
>>>
>>> Jacob Kruger
>>> Blind Biker
>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tania" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> To: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:07 AM
>>> Subject: [WebAIM] Need accessible J Query apps recommendation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello web aim experts,
>>>>
>>>> The blind community in my country is having serious online access from
>>>> a
>>>> home-grown airline website.Developers in my country are NOT trained in
>>>> building for accessibility and there are no blind developers locally to
>>>> provide advice so I hope you can help.
>>>>
>>>> Can you please recommend accessible J Query apps for choosing flight
>>>> destinations and accessible calendar to choose dates for flight tickets
>>>> for this website:
>>>>
>>>> www.airasia.com/asia
>>>>
>>>> Our blind community had met with the airline staff a number of times to
>>>> show them the accessibility problems screen reader users faced and they
>>>> did make adjustments but the most serious problems for online flight
>>>> bookings still remain. Now, the web staff at the airline are ignoring
>>>> request for more meetings with us. I suspect the local developers have
>>>> reached the limits of their capabilities. I do hope the accessibility
>>>> experts here can provide some tips on how to make the website more
>>>> accessible so we can provide some useful info to those who are working
>>>> on the site.
>>>>
>>>> This is a low cost airline, making it a more affordable choice for the
>>>> blind here.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tania
>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >>>
>>
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